This Harold Daggett guy sucks. Fire all of them, raise the pay with a new contract, make them all re-apply and only hire half of them back with fresh blood for the other half.
This longshoreman strike will get ugly
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Raos is Number Three? I didn't realize people were buying that much $10 pasta sauce.
^^^^Manufacture as much chaos as possible just for political gain...right out of the Republican playbook.
Screw that, when I'm on vacation for a week I don't need a maid in my room every day while we're out enjoying ourselves. Had a ring stolen years ago by some maid, couldn't prove it obviously. Just leave me towels and stay the f out of my room.
Once they reach a certain salary, automation will be a competitor to them. I love how they want more money while not allowing the "competitor". That's a monopoly and shouldn't be allowed ever.
It’s simply amazing how workers wanting more money is greed but corporations wanting to keep profits is good business
Taft Hawley should be amended to allow the workers to be forced back to work at the request of management, but, they return under an interim contract that matches worker demands. Force
Management to negotiate in good faith.
Management to negotiate in good faith.
They want a 77% increase and a ban on future automation. This is not about fair wages or working conditions, they already average $39 per hour + OT. Negotiations in good faith is one thing; but an increase of that magnitude is extortion. They were offered 50% over 6 years and turned it down. By the way, companies that don't turn a profit don't exist.
Whatever the increase in wages ends up being will be passed on to U.S consumers in increased prices of imported goods.
USMX will just pass on the cost…then will have a more expensive and inefficient port system 😄
I leave the 'Do not disturb' sign on the door for the duration of my stay. I too don't want people in my room when I'm not there.
While looking past that it was the same corporations that were a large part of the recent "inflation"
So, as I'm watching missiles rain down on Israel, with US personnel very likely to get engaged, I cannot help but be reminded of the May 10, 1943 issue of Life magazine, which covered the Mine Workers labor threats and the G's response in the middle of WWII. A picture of my young dad, a year before he enlisted, in that article, which of course is the only reason I'm aware of it.
Timing is suspicious but the contract expired today. TIFWIW
The contract between the ILA and the United States Maritime Alliance, which represents the ports, expired Tuesday. Some progress was reported in talks late Monday, but the union went on strike anyway.
apnews.com
The contract between the ILA and the United States Maritime Alliance, which represents the ports, expired Tuesday. Some progress was reported in talks late Monday, but the union went on strike anyway.
The US could see shortages and higher retail prices if a dockworkers strike drags on
A lengthy shutdown could raise prices on goods around the country and potentially cause shortages and price increases at big and small retailers alike as the holiday shopping season — along with a tight presidential election — approaches.
apnews.com
If my F’ing Legos go up in price I am going full Karen
'I'm not playing games' on port strikes, union boss says
Major US ports will stay shut until pay demands are met, the union boss representing striking dockworkers has said.Harold Daggett, head of the International Longshoremen's Association (ILA), made the vow on a picket line in New Jersey on Tuesday, as tens of thousands of dockworkers on the east and gulf coasts walked out in a bid to win a better labour deal.
"We're going to fight for it and we're going to win or this port will never open up again," he said. "I'm not playing games here."
Businesses are bracing for the possibility of a prolonged ports shut down, which threatens to cause havoc to global trade and the US economy.
President Joe Biden has so far rebuffed calls by some of country's biggest business groups to use federal power to reopen the ports for 80 days, to provide a cooling-off period for further negotiation.
"It’s only fair that workers, who put themselves at risk during the pandemic to keep ports open, see a meaningful increase in their wages as well," Biden said.
"Now is not the time for ocean carriers to refuse to negotiate a fair wage for these essential workers while raking in record profits."
The strike, the first since 1977 for the ILA, has brought to a halt container traffic across 14 of the country's busiest ports, including in New York, Georgia and Texas.
The ports are estimated by experts to handle more than a third of the US's imports and exports. Disruption could lead to delays on goods deliveries for businesses and consumers.
The president said officials would be on the alert for signs of prices being unfairly hiked in the event of potential shortages.
Union boss on US ports strike: 'I'm not playing games'
Harold Daggett says his dockworkers will are "going to win" in their battle to secure higher wages.
www.bbc.com
if i'd only known...when we moved from our house, we gave away a 2'x2'x5' trunk filled to the top with legos...that's almost two cubic yards to you and me.
im sort of curious. when there is a shortage of goods, what does economics say about what happens to the price?'I'm not playing games' on port strikes, union boss says
Major US ports will stay shut until pay demands are met, the union boss representing striking dockworkers has said.
Harold Daggett, head of the International Longshoremen's Association (ILA), made the vow on a picket line in New Jersey on Tuesday, as tens of thousands of dockworkers on the east and gulf coasts walked out in a bid to win a better labour deal.
"We're going to fight for it and we're going to win or this port will never open up again," he said. "I'm not playing games here."
Businesses are bracing for the possibility of a prolonged ports shut down, which threatens to cause havoc to global trade and the US economy.
President Joe Biden has so far rebuffed calls by some of country's biggest business groups to use federal power to reopen the ports for 80 days, to provide a cooling-off period for further negotiation.
"It’s only fair that workers, who put themselves at risk during the pandemic to keep ports open, see a meaningful increase in their wages as well," Biden said.
"Now is not the time for ocean carriers to refuse to negotiate a fair wage for these essential workers while raking in record profits."
The strike, the first since 1977 for the ILA, has brought to a halt container traffic across 14 of the country's busiest ports, including in New York, Georgia and Texas.
The ports are estimated by experts to handle more than a third of the US's imports and exports. Disruption could lead to delays on goods deliveries for businesses and consumers.
The president said officials would be on the alert for signs of prices being unfairly hiked in the event of potential shortages.
Union boss on US ports strike: 'I'm not playing games'
Harold Daggett says his dockworkers will are "going to win" in their battle to secure higher wages.
Fair? Who's the ****ing Nihilist Here?!
This Daggett guy seems like a real prick.
Thousands of dockworkers along the East Coast and Gulf Coast are on strike for the first time since 1977 — partly due to robots.
As many as 45,000 members of the International Longshoremen’s Association walked off the job at 36 major U.S. ports on Tuesday after negotiations over higher wages and protection against automation broke down between the union and the United States Maritime Alliance, which represents shipping companies and ports.
The workers, who load and unload cargo at over a dozen major ports, “are prepared to fight as long as necessary, to stay out on strike for whatever period of time it takes, to get the wages and protections against automation our ILA members deserve,” ILA President Harold Daggett said in a statement.
Automation has already taken over some major ports, and studies show it has led to job losses for dockworkers. For example, a report from the Economic Roundtable found that automation eliminated 572 full-time-equivalent jobs a year at the Port of Long Beach and the Port of Los Angeles in California in 2020 and 2021.
With automation, shipping companies have the advantage of “elimination of the inconvenience of dealing with American workers and, more specifically, the union that protects dockworkers,” the report, financed by the International Longshore and Warehouse Union, said. The union represents port workers on the West Coast.
“You don’t have to pay pensions to robots,” Brian Jones, a foreman at the Port of Philadelphia, told The New York Times.
In a Facebook post before the strike, Jack Pennington, president of a local ILA group, wrote about “the never ending threat of automation,” and how automation has left “thousands of workers” in the automobile industry “jobless.” He added the same is happening at major retail chains and grocery stores.
“So don’t be so quick to judgment on us the longshoremen of this country for fighting for our jobs because who knows when it will be your turn next,” Pennington wrote. “We are fighting for our rights to make a honest living not to allow a robot to wipe us out so that them corporate bastards can buy another vacation island somewhere!!!!”
The dockworkers’ strike could cost between $1 billion and $5 billion per day, analyses by Container xChange, a shipping container marketplace, and J.P. Morgan (JPM) found. If the strike persists, up to 100,000 jobs could be impacted, and U.S. economic activity could fall by between $4.5 billion and $7.5 billion a week, Oxford Economics said.
The robots are coming whether the union likes it or not.
If I'm the company affiliated with the port, I agree to the terms immediately and day one I start working on automation with the intentions there won't ever be another contract. You get 7 years to test things out and then full switch over at the time of the next contract.
They just need to make sure there aren't any protections beyond the term of the contract.
Is the current wage fair for the work they are doing? Are the work conditions reasonable? IMO, this is either mafia or politically driven. Those groups need their cut too, and they don't want to lose it at any point.
I'm guessing there isn't a degree or long term (apprentice to journeyman) training program required.
They just need to make sure there aren't any protections beyond the term of the contract.
Is the current wage fair for the work they are doing? Are the work conditions reasonable? IMO, this is either mafia or politically driven. Those groups need their cut too, and they don't want to lose it at any point.
I'm guessing there isn't a degree or long term (apprentice to journeyman) training program required.
Heard on the radio that some European port updated to robots while not impacting human jobs.
Very vague, sorry it was the radio I have no link, or memory of the name of the port
Edit: port of Rodderdam(sp?)
Very vague, sorry it was the radio I have no link, or memory of the name of the port
Edit: port of Rodderdam(sp?)
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Oh yes so convinced'I'm not playing games' on port strikes, union boss says
Major US ports will stay shut until pay demands are met, the union boss representing striking dockworkers has said.
Harold Daggett, head of the International Longshoremen's Association (ILA), made the vow on a picket line in New Jersey on Tuesday, as tens of thousands of dockworkers on the east and gulf coasts walked out in a bid to win a better labour deal.
"We're going to fight for it and we're going to win or this port will never open up again," he said. "I'm not playing games here."
Businesses are bracing for the possibility of a prolonged ports shut down, which threatens to cause havoc to global trade and the US economy.
President Joe Biden has so far rebuffed calls by some of country's biggest business groups to use federal power to reopen the ports for 80 days, to provide a cooling-off period for further negotiation.
"It’s only fair that workers, who put themselves at risk during the pandemic to keep ports open, see a meaningful increase in their wages as well," Biden said.
"Now is not the time for ocean carriers to refuse to negotiate a fair wage for these essential workers while raking in record profits."
The strike, the first since 1977 for the ILA, has brought to a halt container traffic across 14 of the country's busiest ports, including in New York, Georgia and Texas.
The ports are estimated by experts to handle more than a third of the US's imports and exports. Disruption could lead to delays on goods deliveries for businesses and consumers.
The president said officials would be on the alert for signs of prices being unfairly hiked in the event of potential shortages.
Union boss on US ports strike: 'I'm not playing games'
Harold Daggett says his dockworkers will are "going to win" in their battle to secure higher wages.
Gotta play tough for the negotiation.
He’s already secured a 50% raise as a starting point…he knows he’s in the drivers seat because the administration won’t want to intervene.
Him meeting with a domestic terrorist kind of takes away any credibility.
