This might be a little tougher than Putin thought...
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This is a new mall fire
"A shopping center in Moscow, Russia is on fire."
"The blaze has caused the roof of the large shopping mall to collapse as firefighters struggle to tackle the flames. Investigators are looking into possible arson or failed safety regulations.
One of the largest shopping malls near the Russian capital was engulfed in flames on Friday with authorities saying they were looking into the possibility of an arson attack.
The fire spread across an area of around 7,000 square meters (75,000 square feet) at the Mega shopping mall in the town of Khimki on the outskirts of Moscow and just seven kilometers (four miles) from the capital's Sheremetyevo Airport.
Videos shared on social media showed thick black smoke rising from a large blaze while others showed people running away through the parking lot."
https://www.dw.com/en/russia-large-fire-rages-through-moscow-shopping-mall/a-64040651
What is the big news about a small fire in Moscow?
Do they not have fire trucks there to put out small fires?
I think someone as powerful as Vladimir Putin can easily handle something like a small fire!!!
Uh....Ms. Litella.....it was a "mall fire".....a very very large one....
Over 75,000 square feet.
And probably the result of people angry about the war in Ukraine.
I have been operating under the assumption that anybody that disapproves of our support of Ukraine is either a Russian sympathizer or victim of Russia's online propaganda and disinformation campaign
True. However, I don't think China is doing shit for a long time, given how they have seen western military equipment and doctrine perform in real life. Countries can flex all they want with war games/exercises, but when you see the proof of concept (or not) with actual people dying (or not) and equipment getting blown up (or not), they have to be thinking twice about whatever plans for aggression which they have.There are other effects...
Report to Congress finds arms deliveries to Taiwan have been slowed by Ukraine war
Delays in delivery of weapons such as F-16 fighter jets, Stinger air-defense missiles and Paladin self-propelled howitzer artillery to Taiwan were noted in November report by U.S.-China Economic and Security Review Commission.www.legion.org
I'd like to see Taiwan armed to the teeth before China get's any funny idea's. Our policy of limiting weapons sales to Taiwan (they pay for the stuff) as to not piss off China is bad policy in hindsight. (see Ukraine).
Been a bipartisan policy....
An invasion or blockade of Taiwan would have much more far reaching negative implications for the US and the world than the Ukraine invasion IMO. Best way to prevent that is to make them an extremely tough nut to crack.
Peace through strength should be the policy...appeasement doesn't work.
Generally, I would agree, but it would appear this fire started in the night, when the place was empty, so if it was an intentional act, it was done in a way to minimize the danger to people. Way different than a busy shopping place, or a hospital or apartment building that would be full of people.
Silly Russians and their poor tobacco waste disposal habits!
That's fully 45% of the GOP right now, per polling.
Estonia, for such a small country, has really been doing their part for Ukraine this entire time. I absolutely love seeing it 🙌
Side note: I became a fan of Estonia a couple winter Olympics ago when she carried out their flag
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Russian soldiers discuss mass exodus from frontline in Ukraine
Russians are moving to discuss a mass desertion of Vladimir Putin's military force, according to an intercepted call from the frontline, as the Kremlin leader struggles to maintain a grip on his own troops.
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Hope it's true....only way this ends quickly.Russian soldiers discuss mass exodus from frontline in Ukraine
Russians are moving to discuss a mass desertion of Vladimir Putin's military force, according to an intercepted call from the frontline, as the Kremlin leader struggles to maintain a grip on his own troops.www.express.co.uk
Russian Army collapsed in 1917 v Germany.....mass desertions
Eastern Front - 1917: The Russian Revolution
In the early spring of 1917 the initiative was definitely with the Allies. A simultaneous offensive by all the Allies was planned, with the intention of preventing the Germans from transferring reserves from one front to another. This plan was ruined by the snapping of the weakest link in the...
www.britannica.com
One can hope but even if there is just some desertion, that decreases, or at least complicates, their ability to project force when they are trying to shore things up.Russian soldiers discuss mass exodus from frontline in Ukraine
Russians are moving to discuss a mass desertion of Vladimir Putin's military force, according to an intercepted call from the frontline, as the Kremlin leader struggles to maintain a grip on his own troops.
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Advocating for proper accounting and dissemination is not disapproving of support.
May be inferring arson due to mall takeover? But I imagine Russia would take any explanation over arson or sabotage. EDIT-I'm wrong, a spokesman named Peskov is blaming Ukraine.
"End of July, Josef Liokumovich became prop. of the Russian OBI. 27 OBI hypermarkets in #Russia , employed about 4900 staff, 600 fouble, but in October the network was taken from them by raiders. F: Inform Napalm"
"End of July, Josef Liokumovich became prop. of the Russian OBI. 27 OBI hypermarkets in #Russia , employed about 4900 staff, 600 fouble, but in October the network was taken from them by raiders. F: Inform Napalm"
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And you would be correct in doing so.
However, characterizing prudence as lack of support, as Dems/media have purely for political gain (presumably not for their own lack of intelligence or comprehension) is easily exploited by our enemies.
Sure, the intent is to convince everyone that Republicans are bad and have sinister intentions, but that's where the gain ends for Dems. They don't intend for Russia to take that and spin it into a story about how the US is going to sponsor a coup and install Poland to power in Ukraine...but that's what happens anyway, because Russia is not only an enemy, they're nuts.
It's merely a reminder that sometimes our own disinformation campaigns can be used against our interests abroad.
Now I'll stop muddying this thread with quasi-related discussion.
Now up to 194,000 square feet. Do Russians know about fire walls
"The blaze, which spread over an area of about 18,000 square meters (194,000 square feet), broke out at about 6 a.m. local time in the Mega Khimki shopping and entertainment mall in a Moscow suburb. The structure has been almost completely destroyed."
https://www.newsweek.com/explosions-russia-moscow-fire-moscow-khimki-shopping-mall-1765837
Not seeing the forest for the trees here.
The folks calling for "prudence" have never, ever been concerned about fiscal responsibility for things they support. And it implies the left "doesn't care" where the funds are going.
What specific evidence does the McCarthy Gang have on inappropriate spending for Ukraine? What SOLUTIONS are they proposing, vs just complaining?
I have always felt this is how it would end.Russian soldiers discuss mass exodus from frontline in Ukraine
Russians are moving to discuss a mass desertion of Vladimir Putin's military force, according to an intercepted call from the frontline, as the Kremlin leader struggles to maintain a grip on his own troops.
There you go-they put SQ but you cant see meters on caption unless you open.Now up to 194,000 square feet. Do Russians know about fire walls
"The blaze, which spread over an area of about 18,000 square meters (194,000 square feet), broke out at about 6 a.m. local time in the Mega Khimki shopping and entertainment mall in a Moscow suburb. The structure has been almost completely destroyed."
https://www.newsweek.com/explosions-russia-moscow-fire-moscow-khimki-shopping-mall-1765837
Let's play this game out. What would satisfy your undefined proper, whom would it be performed by, and what standards is the accounting held to?
Specifics, not pie in the sky bullshit strawmen
Right
Simply LISTEN to them. And their talking-head "leader" at Fox.
"What has Putin ever done to me?"
It is uncanny how girls always know who is the hottest and let her take the middle position in a photo.
