"Confusion reigns and n Russia. The mayor of Moscow announces the implementation of "anti-terrorist measures" in the city with the aim of "strengthening security".
This might be a little tougher than Putin thought...
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If they can't fly them I hope they destroy them.
"A Wagner convoy heads towards the airbase on the south side of the town of Buturlinovka which houses a number of combat aircraft as well as attack helicopters "
"A Wagner convoy heads towards the airbase on the south side of the town of Buturlinovka which houses a number of combat aircraft as well as attack helicopters "
Jesus, I step away from the Ukraine thread for 1/2 a day and there is a wagner uprising against Moscow? I had to skip 7 pages to current time and start working backwards!
For him to flee so quickly I wonder if his intelligence told him this is even worse than it appears to us.
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Wow, reading up on the overnight stuff….that Putin speech sort of removes all doubt, this is real and happening.
It certainly is a far cry from the first 100 pages of this thread with all sorts of Russians trolling Ukrainians laughing at their deaths and calling them kokals or whatever the slur is."Confusion reigns and n Russia. The mayor of Moscow announces the implementation of "anti-terrorist measures" in the city with the aim of "strengthening security".
While I mostly agree with you, I kept tabs on the 24 hour cable news channels and CNN go all in on it for a solid hour at least.
I really think you will see a collapse of front lines in Ukraine and massive territory gains. This news will spread through all of military there. Time to go home. Only question is which side to pick.
If anything would cause the Russians to collapse in Ukraine a civil war is probably number one. 😄
Pretty good chain of events for the Ukrainians the last 24 hrs.
amp.theguardian.com
Pretty good chain of events for the Ukrainians the last 24 hrs.
Wagner chief says he’s in Rostov military HQ as Putin says those behind ‘armed rebellion’ will be punished – Russia-Ukraine war live | Ukraine | The Guardian
Yevgeny Prigozhin has vowed to take ‘revenge’ after accusing Russia’s military of targeting his forces in a rocket attack
His comments on the dead opened my eyes. It may be the official numbers Ukraine uses are right. “Up to a 1,000 a day”
I am trying to determine what is the best outcome. If prigozhin prevails, will he end the war in Ukraine or conduct it more effectively?
I just can’t see a seemless transition here….I have to think if this is successful Prigozhin will be more concerned with consolidating power than carrying on this war….which led to this situation.
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Turn on Faux News. It’s an epic Biggrey fap fest.
The other networks are slowly turning to live content and studio generals talking. I think most networks scaled back their reporters in the war zone, but are deploying them and hitting up independent stringers this morning.
I finally took the step of putting almost all of them all on ignore. And by them I mean probably 2 guys with 15 different handles
He talks about not interfering with the war in his video. He may want to conduct it more efficiently and ensure supplies are given to all troops, hence talking clearly about refuseniks. He could be bad for Ukraine if he gets his way as he may not believe in the sunk cost fallacy and wouldn’t want his troops to have lost their lives for nothing if the war is ended and Ukraine gets their land back.
Agree. I have a hard time believing he survives this all the way but also believe it is really the beginning of the end for z Putin. And who ever is next has to know withdrawal from Ukraine is a must to stabilize country and hold onto power.
The amazing success so far, and foreshadowed by those excursions in Belogrod last month by the other group, really show how undefended Russia is. All the chips are in Ukraine.
I see that as buttering his toast both ways right now. These videos are meant for Russian public who may be turned off if there is talk of losing a war. He is trying to cause them to think he can be the one to save day. Pretty sure he know there is no way to win war.
Yep. Some ww1 lessons here.
The Czar doesn’t get tossed without the war in 1917.
The “first provisional government “ later got tossed by the Bolsheviks in main part because they continued the war.
First thing the Bolsheviks did was make peace with Germany….
They are moving very very quickly. To me it suggests they have been planning and coordinating this for month and have a large chunk of the military on their side, in addition to Russia defense being completely depleted.
God has a great sense of humor so maybe Putin and regime fall in 3 days and these guys are greeted as heroes with parades. Putin may be right on all of it. Except the city.
God has a great sense of humor so maybe Putin and regime fall in 3 days and these guys are greeted as heroes with parades. Putin may be right on all of it. Except the city.
If that’s really what is happening. Putin is capable of almost any form of false flag to bolster his power.
If this is a false flag then I agree. This seems like a mob boss shootout though.
In one post I saw that those belograd incursion forces are “now” under prigozhin’s command. Makes me wonder if that was his own false flag operation to probe and see how far Wagner could go into Russia attacking Putin.
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Prigozhin is nowhere near as clever as he thinks he is. He’s made his career bullying poor third world countries. UKR with NATO help would destroy his guys.
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I don’t think you get to be a Russian oligarch and talk shit about Putin and the war for months without falling down a flight of stairs unless you are one wily son of a bitch. With that being said, NATO would eradicate his forces pronto. But, to his credit, he has acknowledged that and how Ukraine itself now has one of the best armies in the world.
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Maybe you both can STFU now?
It certainly can be, but you do have to be careful to verify information. It is also a very fast way to spread misinformation. But at least with breaking news, various organizations haven't had time to plan a systematic misinformation campaign with a focused message.
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On a side note we have had a Natasha Bertrand sighting on CNN this morning. She is still hot as ever.
