This might be a little tougher than Putin thought...
- Thread starter Nole Lou
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Yeah, they're the ones not to trust. Russia is sh!t.
Any negotiated agreements are bullshit without direct Ukrainian participation.
"and credible security guarantees for the Ukrainians. Otherwise, there is a risk that this ceasefire will end up like the Minsk agreements.We will work on this together with all Europeans, Americans, and Ukrainians. This is the key.We are convinced that Europeans must invest better, more, and together in their security and defense—both for today and for the future.To this end, Europeans want to accelerate the implementation of their own agenda for sovereignty, security, and competitiveness. Work will continue based on the European Commission’s proposals, both in supporting Ukraine and in developing and investing in our defense. This agenda, defined in 2022 at the Versailles Summit, must simply be carried out. Decisions, actions, coherence. Quickly.I will continue these discussions in the coming days."
How worked up did you get when Obama helped the Saudis blockade Yemen and hundreds of thousands of civilians died?
Or did you not even notice?
Shut up and finish bombing the rest of Vlad's oil refineries.
Use NATO bases to launch Ukrainian drones to do it. Time them w/ drones launched from Ukraine, so they cannot be sure where any of them originated from.
I'm so sorry I quoted Zelensky's 'narrative':
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-60174684
Ukraine's President Volodymyr Zelensky has called on the West not to create panic amid the build-up of Russian troops on his country's borders.
He told reporters that warnings of an imminent invasion were putting Ukraine's economy at risk.
On Thursday, US President Joe Biden said he believed Russia could attack its neighbour next month.
Russia, however, denies it is planning to invade and on Friday its foreign minister said Moscow did not want war.
While Russia has about 100,000 troops on Ukraine's borders, Mr Zelensky said he did not see a greater threat now than during a similar massing of troops last spring.
Turkey gets access to pipelines that don't run thru Russia.
They have a LOT of economic benefit from Russia being cut out of any deals. Europe needs to leverage that.
Now give us your thoughts on negotiating a settlement and not including Ukraine?
I eagerly await your response.
