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This might be a little tougher than Putin thought...

The dreaded S word. To me it's been pretty evident for a couple months now. For all the happy talk the lines have been essentially stagnant all summer. Now we have the rasputista pause...

To link this to the Israel/Hamas conversation...I'd expect calls for a "cease fire" and negotiations to ramp up in the coming weeks in regards to Ukraine. A cease far is obviously a W for Putin as it is for Hamas in the Israel/Hamas war...

Ukraine’s top general: War with Russia has reached stalemate

‘There will most likely be no deep and beautiful breakthrough,’ says Valery Zaluzhny.

Russia’s war with Ukraine has become totally bogged down in the trenches, according to Ukraine’s top general.

And the prospect of a long war gives Vladimir Putin and Russia an advantage, Ukraine’s Army Commander-in-Chief Valery Zaluzhny said in a sobering interview with the Economist published Wednesday night.

In the five months since Ukraine launched an eagerly awaited counteroffensive, its troops have advanced only 17 kilometers through heavily fortified and mined Russian defense lines.

The counteroffensive has already disappointed many Ukrainian partners, some of whom are now demanding an end to military aid with the war deadlocked. However, the West’s cautious provision of weapons to Ukraine has allowed the Russians to mobilize thousands and fortify positions in occupied Ukraine, according to Zaluzhny.

“There will most likely be no deep and beautiful breakthrough,” the commander said.

Western arms supplies have been sufficient to sustain Ukraine in the war, but not enough to allow Kyiv to win. However, the top commander does not complain: “They are not obliged to give us anything, and we are grateful for what we have got, but I am simply stating the facts.”

Zaluzhny acknowledged a mistake in thinking Russia would halt the full-scale invasion after it lost more than 150,000 soldiers killed on the battlefield.

The Kremlin — with its massive human and economic resources — has been treating its soldiers like cheap resources, Zaluzhny said, sending them to die in frontal attacks against artillery, drones and tanks.

The lack of a breakthrough has caused some Ukraine fatigue among many of its formerly strong backers, Zaluzhny said. In the U.S., Republicans have been blocking any further aid for Ukraine until President Joe Biden and Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy show them a clear strategy to win the war.

Zelenskyy has been urging the democratic world to unite behind Kyiv, but with signs of diminishing returns.

“The American taxpayers have become weary of funding a never-ending stalemate in Ukraine with no vision of victory,” reads a recently published letter to Biden, signed by seven Republican members of the U.S. Congress.

Zaluzhny does have a battefield strategy, however.

According to an accompanying essay he wrote, the key to Ukraine’s possible path out of the current positional warfare is to: gain air superiority; breach mine barriers in depth; increase the effectiveness of counter-battery; create and train the necessary reserves; and build up electronic warfare capabilities.

In short, Zaluzhny said that combining old methods of war with superiority in technological warfare might let Ukraine fight to its strengths of flexibility and nimbleness.



The bolded above is the crux of the matter if we're going to look at this in hindsight. Slow rolling air assets basically killed the Ukrainians chances this last summer. Pretty big hole in the "combined arms" approach to warfare. Minus air superiority a breakthrough just wasn't in the cards....

When historians look at this war years from now...this is what they're going to point to...
Yes, sadly, I agree. They do not really have combined arms now in any meaningful way. I would like them to have an ample supply of modern airpower to finish the job.
 
Yes, sadly, I agree. They do not really have combined arms now in any meaningful way. I would like them to have an ample supply of modern airpower to finish the job.
Yeah, the Eurasia Group puts stalemate through 11/30 at 65% probability and escalated attacks at 25%
 
FWIW

"To the north: The FAR crossed the VF and progressed towards Stepove. The FAU would not have built fortifications. To the south: Widening of the breakthrough made by the FAR at the sand pit near Opytne. #Ukraine Source ukr. and Rybar card"

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A “ceasefire” is a W for Russia…agree a stalemate isn’t.
The thing people seem to just brush aside is that regardless of Western arms and money, Ukraine is never, ever going to stop fighting the Russians as long as they are on Ukrainian soil. Russia does not have the means or manpower to effectively overrun and occupy all of Ukraine, so in the long-term this is absolutely an unwinnable war for them. It's 10 times worse than Vietnam was for the U.S. and it's only going to get worse.

Time is on the Ukrainian side.

It pisses me off we are forcing them to fight with one hand and one leg tied behind their back --- they should have about 1,000 Abrams tanks, 50 F16s and many more, longer range ATACMs. But even without that, they will ultimately prevail - only at a much higher human cost.
 
"Working day of the State Security Unit "A" on Russian fortifications at the front. "


"In the morning, Russian tanks advanced towards Voglidar, but the 72nd Brigade thwarted the attack in its tracks. As a result, at least 18 pieces of equipment were damaged (part of which can be seen in the video) and a large number of manpower."

 
Long but an interesting career path:)

"Uka's killer drone searched for Russian tank targets but couldn't find any. When the battery was about to run out, he saw an abandoned armored vehicle and had to kill it. The disadvantage of current drones #FPV is that they cannot be recovered."

 
To continue....with the huge investment the US/NATO made in regards to Ukraine....why the slow role of air assets? It's obviously a huge hole in Ukrainians capability. Why pump up Ukraine's chances in this last summers offensive when anyone with some military knowledge knows that was a really tough hole for the Ukrainians to overcome....

Just perplexing to me....did we we want them to succeed or not? Was the objective to just give them enough to hold? To bleed Russia and eliminate them as a threat? Sure looks that way...

Some tough questions need to be asked on this front.
It’s almost as if the neocons are more interested in eternal war than the latest thing to come out of their mouths.
 
It’s almost as if the neocons are more interested in eternal war than the latest thing to come out of their mouths.
well shit, if the republicans are willing to give them the good stuff lets get it on. Originally they claimed to be worried about nuclear war. It’s very clear thats an idle threat. Put a package out there to support Ukraine and Israel and lets move on.
 
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well shit, if the republicans are willing to give them the good stuff lets get it on. Originally they claimed to be worried about nuclear war. Its very clear thats an idle threat. Put a package out there to support Iran and Israel and lets move on.
Get yer program!
Programs here!
Can’t tell the players with outcha program!
 
The whole sea drone development is a real game changer....unfortunately I don't think this isn't a good development for the US. It's a cheap way for out adversaries to even the playing field a bit...

I'm thinking area denial here....swamp a zone with drones to push our battlegroups further out. A really bad development would be submersible sub killers....our subs are the best in the business and have been pretty much untouchable. If somebody like China could flood an area (south china sea) with them they could make those areas pretty dangerous to operate in...
 

Top Ukrainian general’s gloomy view of Russia war fuels military aid debate​

Ukraine’s Gen. Valery Zaluzhnyy wants more weapons from the West to break through a “stalemate.”

A top Ukrainian general’s assessment that the war with Russia is a stalemate is fueling partisan passions as a debate on whether to bolster Kyiv with more weapons roils Congress.

The stunning admission by Gen. Valery Zaluzhnyy, commander in chief of Ukraine’s armed forces, is reverberating on Capitol Hill — where Republicans are arguing his comments are a reason to rethink America’s as-long-as-it-takes support for Kyiv. And that could make Ukraine’s uphill climb against Russia and in the halls of Congress even steeper.

Without a sudden boost in technological superiority, “there will most likely be no deep and beautiful breakthrough” against Russia, Zaluzhnyy told The Economist in an interview posted Wednesday night. The war is at a stalemate, he said, and took the blame for believing Russian President Vladimir Putin would change course after losing roughly 150,000 troops. “In any other country such casualties would have stopped the war.”


Sen. Josh Hawley (R-Mo.), a skeptic of more aid to Kyiv, said that Zaluzhnyy’s candor blew a major hole in the administration’s Ukraine policy. Their pitch, Hawley contended, is “we need to keep funding Ukraine, in all aspects, not just militarily, we need to provide money for their pensions and all the rest so that it can remain a stalemate.”
“That naturally raises the question: What exactly is our endgame strategy?” he asked. “What’s the plan here? I don’t think they have a plan.”
Zaluzhnyy’s assessment is “consistent with what we’ve been informed,” said Sen. Ben Cardin (D-Md.), chair of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee. “There was hope that they would make more gains,” he continued, hoping that Ukraine can hold what it has taken back from Russia with America’s support. Ukraine has only advanced about 10 miles since the counteroffensive started in the summer.
The Senate is likely to approve more aid to Ukraine, part of President Joe Biden’s $106 billion request that also includes support for Israel and Taiwan, as well as more resources for the southern border with Mexico.
But House Speaker Mike Johnson has more skeptical colleagues to convince. The top House member told Senate Republicans on Wednesday that he is for sending more weapons to Ukraine, but claims he can only get lawmakers to approve of those deliveries separately from an Israel-focused measure.
Zaluzhnyy’s message seems aimed at influencing the American congressional debate. The general, like Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy, is desperate for more advanced fighter jets, drones, longer-range missiles and artillery to punch through Russian lines.
“Ukraine’s armed forces need key military capabilities and technologies to break out of this kind of war. The most important one is air power,” Zaluzhnyy wrote in a separate essay for The Economist that was published Wednesday. Russia, he adds, “will have superiority in weapons, equipment, missiles and ammunition for a considerable time.”


Kyiv is increasingly eager to move beyond waiting for donations, and is looking to start partnering with the U.S. and European defense industries to enter into co-production deals so they can build their own weapons. BAE Systems and Germany’s Rheinmetall AG have already signed deals, though no production has started yet.

Sen. J.D. Vance (R-Ohio), who has openly called for ending military assistance to Kyiv, said Zaluzhnyy’s remarks expose deep-lying fractures within Ukraine’s leadership.

“Zelenkyy’s war aims are not consistent with reality, and you have some of his inner circle pushing back,” he told reporters at the Capitol on Thursday. “This was always going to end with Russia controlling some Ukrainian territory and a negotiated settlement. I’ve been saying it for a year. It was obvious to anybody who paid attention to realities on the ground.”

Vance and Hawley’s arguments are still the minority view in the Senate, where most senators from both parties still say they want to keep helping Ukraine push past the stalemate. But the protestations are finding a larger audience, especially as the nation’s attention turns to helping Israel in its war against Hamas.

Zaluzhnyy’s comments, though, hasn’t weakened the support from Congress’ most vocal Ukraine supporters.

“The nature of the war in Ukraine is that it will be mile-by-mile,” said Sen. Richard Blumenthal (D-Conn.), a Senate Armed Services Committee member who has visited with Zelenskyy multiple times. “The United States should continue to support Ukraine because it’s vital to our national security, even though there won’t be a gigantic breakthrough.”

Paul McLeary contributed to this report.
 
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"Defense Express speculates that such a hint from General Baranov might indicate that the progress on the OTRK “Grim-2” project, also known as “Sapsan,” could be significantly more advanced than previously believed.

The new system was developed by Yuzhnoye Design Bureau in partnership with Pavlograd Chemical Plant and Kharkiv Morozov Machine-Building Design Bureau. The new missile reportedly has a range of 350 km, but technically, a missile is able to fly up to 500 km.

For context, as of June 2023, one of the developers of this complex stated that the actual readiness level for the “Sapsan” ballistic missile system project could be assessed at only 65-70%. At that time, it was estimated that completing the project would require at least half a billion dollars, without specifying the timeline.

However, these objective factors did not prevent the Russian Ministry of Defense from claiming to “intercept” Ukrainian “Sapsan” ballistic missiles.

Russian forces began “intercepting” Ukrainian ballistic missiles “Grim-2” as early as March this year, with seven such claims recorded so far by Russian media. In October, the Russian Ministry of Defense claimed to “shoot down” two ballistic “Grim-2” missiles daily.

It is also worth noting another statement by Brigadier General Baranov, highlighted by Defense Express. He stated that Ukrainian Armed Forces have already launched a missile that can reach over 700 kilometers, and it is not a modified Soviet-era drone but a new missile system."

https://defence-blog.com/ukrainian-military-drops-cryptic-hints-about-new-ballistic-missile/
 
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"Today, the Department of Defense (DoD) announced additional security assistance to meet Ukraine's critical security and defense needs. This includes the drawdown of security assistance from DoD inventories valued at up to $125 million to meet Ukraine's immediate battlefield needs, as well as $300 million in Ukraine Security Assistance Initiative (USAI) funds to strengthen Ukraine's air defenses over the long term.

  1. Additional munitions for National Advanced Surface-to-Air Missile Systems (NASAMS);
  2. Additional ammunition for High Mobility Artillery Rocket Systems (HIMARS);
  3. 155mm and 105mm artillery rounds;
  4. Tube-Launched, Optically-Tracked, Wire-Guided (TOW) missiles;
  5. Javelin and AT-4 anti-armor systems;
  6. More than 3 million rounds of small arms ammunition and grenades;
  7. Demolitions munitions for obstacle clearing;
  8. M18A1 Claymore anti-personnel munitions;
  9. 12 trucks to transport heavy equipment;
  10. Cold weather gear; and
  11. Spare parts, maintenance, and other field equipment.

Under USAI, the DoD will provide Ukraine with:


  1. Additional laser-guided munitions to counter Unmanned Aerial Systems. (More)
https://www.defense.gov/News/Releas...nnounces-new-security-assistance-for-ukraine/
 
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