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This might be a little tougher than Putin thought...

Feels like we just crossed 300,000 casualties. Now they're already more than 10k higher than that. Really high rate lately.
Avdiivka. The Russians are going to pump as many men into that meat grinder as they can scoop up from the prisons and mental wards.

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Can someone give the timestamp where Elon says Ukraine should surrender? Anyone care to put their laughing emojis where their mouth is?

For the record, I do not agree with Elon that Ukraine/Zelenskyy should negotiate. As long as Western support is there, they should continue to degrade Russian assets in the four occupied regions and make life in them untenable for the Russian military.
 
Can someone give the timestamp where Elon says Ukraine should surrender?
0:00 bro

He's telling you thru the whole clip that Ukraine should "negotiate", which means "surrender the lands Russia has stolen from them".

Did you forget that Ukraine DID "negotiate" with Russia dozens of times prior to this invasion? And Russia broke its word EVERY TIME?

If this is beyond your intellect here, I don't know what to tell you.
 
Caption doesn’t match interview comments.

Is there a source/link/reference on the assertion Freidman being a Russian government paid influencer?

I know it is en vogue to just believe anything any random person with an X account says these days. Just for good practice.
What about all the people on X talking about Eloon running away from process servers in order to avoid paying child support? Are they in vogue, or out of vogue? It's so confusing.
Eloon is a nut who snorts ketamine.
His fascination with authoritarianism is troubling, and the use of his bankrupt platform to push Russian propaganda is even worse. I'm surprised he lets posts featuring Russians getting blown up, or Ukrainian posts get through his censors.
 
What about all the people on X talking about Eloon running away from process servers in order to avoid paying child support? Are they in vogue, or out of vogue? It's so confusing.

I have no idea what you are talking about. Justine and her 5 are all 18 or thereabouts. She/they are set for life. Spurned wife wanting more dough is nothing new.

Grimes and her two are probably in relationship and financial disputes but probably takes care of the children’s every need and then some. Grimes probably trying to milk him for dough. She’s a bit out there so if she is a spurned partner crying foul that’s nothing new.

From what I can gather his twins with Shivon Zilis were expected and welcome. Not sure what would be going on there.

Women wanting more money from rich men is a tale as old as time. That’s their business.

Eloon is a nut who snorts ketamine.

How often? Recreation or in abusive addictive manner? Have you ever done drugs recreationally?

Musk is regularly drug tested to maintain SpaceX national security clearance. I trust they know what they are doing where you clearly don’t. If they had reason to believe he is a habitual drug abuser they would test him and pull his clearance. Yet they haven’t, why do you think that is? Occam’s razor.

His fascination with authoritarianism is troubling, and the use of his bankrupt platform to push Russian propaganda is even worse. I'm surprised he lets posts featuring Russians getting blown up, or Ukrainian posts get through his censors.

All I read here is clear case of cognitive dissonance on your part.

Either he is some evil genius Russian puppet or he allows anti-Russian & Pro-Ukraine material on the platform. Both assertions cannot be held, sorry.
 

Ukraine is waking up to reality​


Ukraine won the war of 2022. That was the year of Ukraine’s victory. Putin’s troops had to withdraw from Kyiv and Kherson, and they ran from Kharkiv.

But the year 2023 has not been so good. Russian generals have learned from their mistakes, and the learning curve was quite steep. All while engaging Ukraine in a bloody war of attrition at Bakhmut, Russia erected impregnable defenses in the south. They laid minefields. Not minefields but minefields — hundreds of miles long.
What’s more, Russia fooled the satellites. The Ukrainian south is basically a steppe crisscrossed by strips of forest planted to prevent erosion. They are called exactly that: lesopolosa, “forest strip.” Turns out that every forest strip was fortified by Russia. Dug inside out, stuffed with troops and strongholds. The Ukrainians, relying on the expected digital transparency of the battlefield, missed the preparations.

Still, Ukrainian troops advanced. They carved out a bridgehead, crushed through the first line of Russian defenses and closed in on a major railway hub of Tokmak. Russians counterattacked, trying at all costs to regain lost ground, smashing their reserves against the new frontline.

Ukraine had never seen the likes of it during the whole war. It was hand-to-hand combat in trenches, with enormous losses to Russia and every tactical advantage on the Ukrainian side; the Ukrainians were gutting Russian reserves. But the attacks were not futile: while Putin was spending his best troops, in the rear new formidable defense lines were created, new mines were sown. The current attack on Avdiivka is following the same pattern; it’s leading to incredible Russian losses, but it stopped Ukrainian hopes of taking Tokmak.

Russia started to properly use electronic countermeasures and new precision Lancet drones. Russian choppers are now staying out of range of Ukrainian air defenses, using an analog of the famous Israeli Spike NLOS (non-line of sight) missile with a nine-mile range. Putin has an enormous stock of obsolete non-guided air bombs. These were once useless; Russia only had total air superiority in Mariupol, which Russian planes bombed mercilessly.


Not anymore — nowadays these bombs are fitted with primitive guidance systems, and planes launch them from a safe distance of 30 miles. It’s cheap and primitive, but in war, if it works and it’s simple, it’s the best solution. Not exactly regained air superiority, but close.

The war is a bloody stalemate that can hardly be budged. Were Putin to achieve some success, it would be immediately countered by a new cache of U.S. weapons: e.g. ATACMS have recently taken out a dozen Russian choppers right on the airfield. Were Ukrainians to advance substantially, Putin would mobilize more troops.
But it is not just the front lines. The situation is much more serious.

Western sanctions did not destroy Russia’s economy — rather, they repositioned it. Oil once sold to Europe now goes to China and India via a fleet of “ghost tankers.” In September, Russia got $18 billion in oil revenues. Putin is planning to spend around $110 billion on war in 2024, and that’s just the open part of the budget. Ukraine will be lucky if it gets $60 billion from all its allies combined.

What’s even more amazing, the Russian economy is rebounding. The Western-oriented creative class in big cities is hard up, but almost every other stratum of Russian society is better off. Poor people from destitute Russian regions are, for the first time ever, earning good money by enlisting to serve. If they are killed, their families are getting money they never dreamt of. Salaries at military factories are up, and regular salaries are up too because of the shortage of labor. It is a sort of military Keynesianism.
Meanwhile, in Ukraine itself, things are not so bright. The initial incredible enthusiasm has waned, superseded by the usual trench horrors. People are hiding from conscription, the U.S. insists on increasing the sheer size of Ukrainian army, and Kyiv counters by asking for modern weapons that permit to keep the military smaller. Soldiers on the ground are seeking whom to blame, and the usual scapegoat is corruption.

President Zelensky is increasingly messianic. In his September United Nations speech, he criticized Ukraine’s staunchest European ally, Poland, even going so far as to suggest they “set the stage for the Moscow actor.”

It was unwise to accuse a country that spared no effort in selflessly helping Ukraine with weapons and refugees over a commercial dispute about grain imports on the eve of Polish elections. When the former European Commission president said that Ukraine is corrupt on all levels of society, Zelensky blamed him for spreading “Russian narratives.” Apparently, Ukrainian corruption is a Russian propaganda ploy.

Elections are apparently a Russian ploy too. It’s not the right time for elections, President Zelensky recently declared, and such talk is “politically divisive” and “manipulations which only Russia expects.” It’s too hard to have elections in the country that is fighting for its survival. And, since Zelensky is adamant on the 1991 border, the fighting may go on forever.

Increasingly nationalist rhetoric is coming from Ukraine. “Russians are Asians,” Alexei Danilov, the head of Security Council of Ukraine, declared. “We are different from them. Our key difference is our humaneness.” One wonders whether this is the right kind of speech to secure weapons needed to retake Crimea. After all, while legally a part of Ukraine, Crimea is predominantly populated by ethnic Russians.

Still, in Ukraine, the political reckoning for the failed summer offensive is coming. Ukraine’s commander-in-chief, Valery Zaluzhny, just admitted that the war is at a stalemate, and Oleksiy Arestovich — formerly an advisor to the president, brilliant and eccentric, who had an almost magic sway on the crowds in the first months of war — has just launched his presidential campaign with a hitherto taboo suggestion that Ukraine can forgo occupied territories in exchange for joining NATO. It was this breaking of ranks that prompted Zelenskyy’s desperate speech about “divisive manipulations.”

While Ukrainian democracy, wounded and traumatized, is slowly waking to the unpalatable truth, the Russian dictator lives in an alternate reality in which he is fighting a world war against America — and winning.

Yulia Latynina, a writer and journalist, worked for Echo of Moscow radio station and the Novaya Gazeta newspaper until they were shut down as part of the current war in Ukraine. She is a recipient of the U.S. State Department’s Defender of Freedom award.
 
Another great segment on 60 Minutes tonight about the war. Russia has targeted hundreds of churches during the war. Some of damage may have been incidental, well, as incidental as can be when you invade another country, but certainly much of it has been targeted. As has been the large scale, organized looting of Ukrainian cultural sites.
Maybe the religious right core of the GQP will take note of the Russian attempts to destroy the ability to worship in Ukraine.
 
Another great segment on 60 Minutes tonight about the war. Russia has targeted hundreds of churches during the war. Some of damage may have been incidental, well, as incidental as can be when you invade another country, but certainly much of it has been targeted. As has been the large scale, organized looting of Ukrainian cultural sites.
Maybe the religious right core of the GQP will take note of the Russian attempts to destroy the ability to worship in Ukraine.

Ukrainians on that segment indicated that the artifacts and history were more important than their own lives. One museum curator who narrowly escaped Russian soldiers/assassins joined the UK army...
 

Ukraine is waking up to reality​


Ukraine won the war of 2022. That was the year of Ukraine’s victory. Putin’s troops had to withdraw from Kyiv and Kherson, and they ran from Kharkiv.

But the year 2023 has not been so good. Russian generals have learned from their mistakes, and the learning curve was quite steep. All while engaging Ukraine in a bloody war of attrition at Bakhmut, Russia erected impregnable defenses in the south. They laid minefields. Not minefields but minefields — hundreds of miles long.
What’s more, Russia fooled the satellites. The Ukrainian south is basically a steppe crisscrossed by strips of forest planted to prevent erosion. They are called exactly that: lesopolosa, “forest strip.” Turns out that every forest strip was fortified by Russia. Dug inside out, stuffed with troops and strongholds. The Ukrainians, relying on the expected digital transparency of the battlefield, missed the preparations.

Still, Ukrainian troops advanced. They carved out a bridgehead, crushed through the first line of Russian defenses and closed in on a major railway hub of Tokmak. Russians counterattacked, trying at all costs to regain lost ground, smashing their reserves against the new frontline.

Ukraine had never seen the likes of it during the whole war. It was hand-to-hand combat in trenches, with enormous losses to Russia and every tactical advantage on the Ukrainian side; the Ukrainians were gutting Russian reserves. But the attacks were not futile: while Putin was spending his best troops, in the rear new formidable defense lines were created, new mines were sown. The current attack on Avdiivka is following the same pattern; it’s leading to incredible Russian losses, but it stopped Ukrainian hopes of taking Tokmak.

Russia started to properly use electronic countermeasures and new precision Lancet drones. Russian choppers are now staying out of range of Ukrainian air defenses, using an analog of the famous Israeli Spike NLOS (non-line of sight) missile with a nine-mile range. Putin has an enormous stock of obsolete non-guided air bombs. These were once useless; Russia only had total air superiority in Mariupol, which Russian planes bombed mercilessly.


Not anymore — nowadays these bombs are fitted with primitive guidance systems, and planes launch them from a safe distance of 30 miles. It’s cheap and primitive, but in war, if it works and it’s simple, it’s the best solution. Not exactly regained air superiority, but close.

The war is a bloody stalemate that can hardly be budged. Were Putin to achieve some success, it would be immediately countered by a new cache of U.S. weapons: e.g. ATACMS have recently taken out a dozen Russian choppers right on the airfield. Were Ukrainians to advance substantially, Putin would mobilize more troops.
But it is not just the front lines. The situation is much more serious.

Western sanctions did not destroy Russia’s economy — rather, they repositioned it. Oil once sold to Europe now goes to China and India via a fleet of “ghost tankers.” In September, Russia got $18 billion in oil revenues. Putin is planning to spend around $110 billion on war in 2024, and that’s just the open part of the budget. Ukraine will be lucky if it gets $60 billion from all its allies combined.

What’s even more amazing, the Russian economy is rebounding. The Western-oriented creative class in big cities is hard up, but almost every other stratum of Russian society is better off. Poor people from destitute Russian regions are, for the first time ever, earning good money by enlisting to serve. If they are killed, their families are getting money they never dreamt of. Salaries at military factories are up, and regular salaries are up too because of the shortage of labor. It is a sort of military Keynesianism.
Meanwhile, in Ukraine itself, things are not so bright. The initial incredible enthusiasm has waned, superseded by the usual trench horrors. People are hiding from conscription, the U.S. insists on increasing the sheer size of Ukrainian army, and Kyiv counters by asking for modern weapons that permit to keep the military smaller. Soldiers on the ground are seeking whom to blame, and the usual scapegoat is corruption.

President Zelensky is increasingly messianic. In his September United Nations speech, he criticized Ukraine’s staunchest European ally, Poland, even going so far as to suggest they “set the stage for the Moscow actor.”

It was unwise to accuse a country that spared no effort in selflessly helping Ukraine with weapons and refugees over a commercial dispute about grain imports on the eve of Polish elections. When the former European Commission president said that Ukraine is corrupt on all levels of society, Zelensky blamed him for spreading “Russian narratives.” Apparently, Ukrainian corruption is a Russian propaganda ploy.

Elections are apparently a Russian ploy too. It’s not the right time for elections, President Zelensky recently declared, and such talk is “politically divisive” and “manipulations which only Russia expects.” It’s too hard to have elections in the country that is fighting for its survival. And, since Zelensky is adamant on the 1991 border, the fighting may go on forever.

Increasingly nationalist rhetoric is coming from Ukraine. “Russians are Asians,” Alexei Danilov, the head of Security Council of Ukraine, declared. “We are different from them. Our key difference is our humaneness.” One wonders whether this is the right kind of speech to secure weapons needed to retake Crimea. After all, while legally a part of Ukraine, Crimea is predominantly populated by ethnic Russians.

Still, in Ukraine, the political reckoning for the failed summer offensive is coming. Ukraine’s commander-in-chief, Valery Zaluzhny, just admitted that the war is at a stalemate, and Oleksiy Arestovich — formerly an advisor to the president, brilliant and eccentric, who had an almost magic sway on the crowds in the first months of war — has just launched his presidential campaign with a hitherto taboo suggestion that Ukraine can forgo occupied territories in exchange for joining NATO. It was this breaking of ranks that prompted Zelenskyy’s desperate speech about “divisive manipulations.”

While Ukrainian democracy, wounded and traumatized, is slowly waking to the unpalatable truth, the Russian dictator lives in an alternate reality in which he is fighting a world war against America — and winning.

Yulia Latynina, a writer and journalist, worked for Echo of Moscow radio station and the Novaya Gazeta newspaper until they were shut down as part of the current war in Ukraine. She is a recipient of the U.S. State Department’s Defender of Freedom award.

This is a propaganda piece rife with inaccuracies.

Yulia Latynina, a writer and journalist, worked for Echo of Moscow radio station

Echo of Moscow (Russian: Эхо Москвы, romanized: Ekho Moskvy) was a 24/7 commercial Russian radio station based in Moscow.


Owner

Gazprom is State owned!

Putin was her BOSS!

Lmao. Dude.
 
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This is a propaganda piece rife with inaccuracies.

Yulia Latynina, a writer and journalist, worked for Echo of Moscow radio station

Echo of Moscow (Russian: Эхо Москвы, romanized: Ekho Moskvy) was a 24/7 commercial Russian radio station based in Moscow.


Owner

Gazprom is State owned!

Putin was her BOSS!

Lmao. Dude.
About the author...

Yulia Latynina, a writer and journalist, worked for Echo of Moscow radio station and the Novaya Gazeta newspaper until they were shut down as part of the current war in Ukraine. She is a recipient of the U.S. State Department’s Defender of Freedom award.


I also don't think The Hill is a Russian propaganda outlet.

So...what was the "russian propaganda" in the article?
 
Still need to see a major occupied city retaken before December 1st. The support will not last forever. It appears that plenty of money is being spent on helmet cameras. Ukraine needs to go balls out over the next 3 weeks
I don’t disagree, but the failing in this was not providing them with sufficient AirPower to conduct true combined arms operations. If they would have had it, they would have cut the land bridge by now. I don’t think it is really possible by 12/1 now. Best we can hope for is support remains, they get trained up on f-16s, they get f-16s, and in the spring they can finish the task.
 
I don’t disagree, but the failing in this was not providing them with sufficient AirPower to conduct true combined arms operations. If they would have had it, they would have cut the land bridge by now. I don’t think it is really possible by 12/1 now. Best we can hope for is support remains, they get trained up on f-16s, they get f-16s, and in the spring they can finish the task.
That and the persistent rumors Putin is dead tune out to be true!
 


In reality, Russia's so-called 'special military operation' effectively ended a long time ago.Yep, it's history now.To be precise, it was over by March 29, 2022, with the ultimate failure of Russia's blitz at Kyiv and the subsequent decision to withdraw from North Ukraine.What followed was a full-scale, all-out war for which Russia never prepared, re-launched in Donbas by mid-April 2022 with the following goals -- to even the score after the humiliating failure of the 'SMO,' to appease Vladimir Putin's badly wounded ego and to prevent him from ever admitting his defeat (and therefore taking a step into the fire) -- at absolutely any price. As time goes by, the price is soaring. So is Putin's dependence on a never-ending, senseless war -- because stopping it where it is now means Putin admitting his humiliating failure to Ukraine, given the gargantuan goals of his gorgeous 'SMO' that was meant to build him a triumphal arc in the Maidan Square. This is what essentially happening to the Russian-Ukrainian war in the last 19 months. From the Russian side, it is one of the most senseless and idiotic bloodbaths in human history for the sake of just one man's ego and for the sake of many others' chance to steal a lot and skyrocket their careers amid the mass killing spree.From the Ukrainian side, it's a horrific catastrophe in which our country loses endless thousands of the very best men and women we have, in which we see entire cities and regions leveled and degrading by centuries back in time -- and in which hundreds of thousands fight and kill in the mud of trenches to save this country from the insanity of today's revanchist Russia.
 


In reality, Russia's so-called 'special military operation' effectively ended a long time ago.Yep, it's history now.To be precise, it was over by March 29, 2022, with the ultimate failure of Russia's blitz at Kyiv and the subsequent decision to withdraw from North Ukraine.What followed was a full-scale, all-out war for which Russia never prepared, re-launched in Donbas by mid-April 2022 with the following goals -- to even the score after the humiliating failure of the 'SMO,' to appease Vladimir Putin's badly wounded ego and to prevent him from ever admitting his defeat (and therefore taking a step into the fire) -- at absolutely any price. As time goes by, the price is soaring. So is Putin's dependence on a never-ending, senseless war -- because stopping it where it is now means Putin admitting his humiliating failure to Ukraine, given the gargantuan goals of his gorgeous 'SMO' that was meant to build him a triumphal arc in the Maidan Square. This is what essentially happening to the Russian-Ukrainian war in the last 19 months. From the Russian side, it is one of the most senseless and idiotic bloodbaths in human history for the sake of just one man's ego and for the sake of many others' chance to steal a lot and skyrocket their careers amid the mass killing spree.From the Ukrainian side, it's a horrific catastrophe in which our country loses endless thousands of the very best men and women we have, in which we see entire cities and regions leveled and degrading by centuries back in time -- and in which hundreds of thousands fight and kill in the mud of trenches to save this country from the insanity of today's revanchist Russia.
Mindless, total waste of people and resource.
Just when you think it can’t get any worse, this catastrophe steps to the front of the line, although the Mideast caldron is saying, “Hold my beer.”
 
I don’t disagree, but the failing in this was not providing them with sufficient AirPower to conduct true combined arms operations. If they would have had it, they would have cut the land bridge by now. I don’t think it is really possible by 12/1 now. Best we can hope for is support remains, they get trained up on f-16s, they get f-16s, and in the spring they can finish the task.
I don't disagree with the air support. But it is the hand they have been delt. Quit spending money on videos for us to watch and show progress. We are both on their side, I'm just worried about an election year coming up and support for Ukraine needs to show progress.

f'ing politics.......
 
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