NATO needs to take out the rest of the Russian refineries.
Just sneak Ukrainian drones into NATO territories and launch from there, in concert w/ Ukraine launching some.
Russians won't be able to tell the difference, anyway.
This might be a little tougher than Putin thought...
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Just sneak Ukrainian drones into NATO territories and launch from there, in concert w/ Ukraine launching some.
Russians won't be able to tell the difference, anyway.
You're spouting Russian propaganda.
Maybe Trump could lessen US aid and involvement in Nato but he cant legally take the US out of the treaty. Congress does treaties and would be the one to end it, although this congress is a bunch of sheep on the repub side
Link? One link please. In this echo chamber you get away with b.s. but not in the real world where most of us reside. Provide a link.
You’re b.s. consistently.
Don't give him any attention.
Did you ever link to your false post like requested? You don’t get to just make stuff up. Well, maybe you do on here, I’m referring the real world.
You’re b.s. also.
I somewhat disagree and I think it was one failing by the Biden Admin to not give Ukraine more and better tanks, rockets, and fighter jets from the very beginning. I think then right after the first 3 months of war when russia abandoned the Kiev battle the Ukrainians would have been in a much better place to handle the russians.
We should have given them 3x as many Javelins to bust all the russian tanks and vehicles. Maybe 5x as many as they could also be used for shortrange anti infantry explosions
Finland: "Them sneaky Ukrainians snuck a dozen drones on to our military airbases and sent them off at your refineries, Vlad!!! We are just furious about this, and will be looking into our security measures ASAP!!!"
Of all the complete horribleness we have seen in 3.5 weeks of Trump, this rapid cozying up to Russia and distancing from our NATO allies is by far the most disturbing and really is a possible sign that Trump and Musk really are Putin’s men.
They sure have dirty water in Europe!!!!
I thought he was going to stop drinking
Yes....but it was probably 3AM EST in Brussels.
Them's USA drinkin' hours, yo!!!!
He does every night when he passes out.
He took like 3 nervous sips. It was like straight out of an SNL skit making fun of him but once again it was real ****ing life.
Europe going to tell us to get f'ed. Congrats maga.
AP story about security forces from European nations, not peace keepers, in Ukraine. Hopefully they move forward air power to make sure Russia sticks to their side of the line. I'm glad Europe is serious about going forward without the US
https://apnews.com/article/europe-u...-us-security-119c302621e58a3e3bcb7841aa1ce161
https://apnews.com/article/europe-u...-us-security-119c302621e58a3e3bcb7841aa1ce161
Nuke Moscow, but wait for Trump's visit to the Kremlin.
If Russia stops fighting, there is no more war
If Ukraine stops fighting, there is no more Ukraine
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What an incredible downfall in four weeks. The weakest and worst we have looked to our closest and oldest NATO allies since WWII. We can only hope the raging fire wakens normal rational people up to just how horrible our president and boot lickers are
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"According to publicly available data from Oryx, the contribution of Europe and the US to Ukraine, broken down by main types of arms is as follows:
Europe supplied Ukraine with 51 planes of different types, and another 85 are waiting to be delivered. USA - 0.(Of note is that Europeans gave away most of their F-16s to Ukraine, instead signing contracts to replace them with newer and more expensive F-35 models from US companies)
Helicopters, Europe supplied 73, USA - 21.
Tanks, Europe supplied 887 tanks, USA - 31 Abrams, and paid for 45 Soviet Т-72s, which were modernized in Czechia and given to Ukraine.
IFVs, Europe provided 1086 units of different types, USA - 300 Bradleys.
Towed artillery, according to public data, US supplied 259 howitzers, while Europe provided 183, but the real numbers are likely higher, as many countries were not open about their deliveries as the US was.
Self-propelled guns, Europe supplied 762 units of various types, USA provided 18."
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"According to publicly available data from Oryx, the contribution of Europe and the US to Ukraine, broken down by main types of arms is as follows:
Europe supplied Ukraine with 51 planes of different types, and another 85 are waiting to be delivered. USA - 0.(Of note is that Europeans gave away most of their F-16s to Ukraine, instead signing contracts to replace them with newer and more expensive F-35 models from US companies)
Helicopters, Europe supplied 73, USA - 21.
Tanks, Europe supplied 887 tanks, USA - 31 Abrams, and paid for 45 Soviet Т-72s, which were modernized in Czechia and given to Ukraine.
IFVs, Europe provided 1086 units of different types, USA - 300 Bradleys.
Towed artillery, according to public data, US supplied 259 howitzers, while Europe provided 183, but the real numbers are likely higher, as many countries were not open about their deliveries as the US was.
Self-propelled guns, Europe supplied 762 units of various types, USA provided 18."
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Sorry Putler, your boy Trump can’t save you. And I honestly do think he is doing whatever Putin tells him to do. This means the sudden ploy this week of bullying Ukraine for mineral rights, boasting how US would negotiate peace between just US and Russia (bending Ukraine to their knee), and dismissive military comments in NATO and our lack of strength (by VP and ****ing alcoholic SOD) is a result Putin knows he is really running out of time. He is hoping it works because if Ukraine gets this to 2026 his economy and military will both be done. As will he.
Don’t feed this troll.
