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This might be a little tougher than Putin thought...

"CNN- Unidentified drones have been spotted flying over three bases used by the United States Air Force in Britain, the two countries have confirmed.
The objects were seen between Wednesday and Saturday flying over the Royal Air Force’s Lakenheath, Mildenhall and Feltwell bases, all used by the US Air Force (USAF).
“Installation leaders determined that none of the incursions impacted base residents or critical infrastructure,” a spokesperson for the US Air Forces in Europe said in a statement.
There were about five to six drones, and their activity appeared coordinated, according to a source familiar with the matter. US defense officials are still investigating their origin, but they did not appear to be hobbyist drones, the source said. At no point did they pose a threat to the bases, and there is no evidence they were able to collect any sensitive intelligence, the source added.
A spokesperson for Britain’s Ministry of Defence said: “We take threats seriously and maintain robust measures at defence sites. This includes counter-drone security capabilities.”
Both nations said they would not comment further.

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The Russian story -"There is no threat of UAV attack in Salavat ,Bashkiria - State Emergency Committee An ordinary crop duster flew into the restricted area without notifying anyone about its flight. After a warning shots, it changed its trajectory & flew away"

Must get those crops dusted before Christmas.
 
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Bleak CNN report this evening on the depletion of Ukrainian troops on the front lines, and increasing reliance on drones to fight the war. And Russian atrocities against captured Ukrainians, the abbreviated video made me sick. I like the optimism in this thread, hope the winter gives time for Ukraine to regroup, in spite of Trump.
 

Record low I believe. Everything going great for Putin. Nothing to see here.

 

Ukraine war briefing: Kyiv pulls back 100,000 mortar rounds after failures​


  • Ukraine’s defence ministry is investigating defective mortar shells after at least 100,000 Ukrainian-made 120mm rounds had to be removed from the frontline. Soldiers began saying in early November that the rounds failed to explode, remained stuck in the launcher or fell off target, according to private Ukrainian TV 1+1. The defence ministry confirmed it had stopped using them on the frontline “until the causes of the malfunction are determined” and seized part of the supply. Early findings pointed to poor-quality powder charges or violations of storage requirements, the ministry said. The Ukrainian news site Dzerkalo Tyjnia and the war journalist Yuriy Butusov shared the figure of 100,000 with the latter denouncing “criminal negligence”.
  • The Oreshnik intermediate-range ballistic missile fired by Russia at the Ukrainian city of Dnipro last week carried multiple warheads but no explosives and caused limited damage, two senior Ukrainian government sources said. The Kremlin described it as a warning to the west after the US and Britain allowed Ukraine to fire their missiles inside Russia. Western experts say the Oreshnik, which flew about 700km, seems to be based on the RS-26 intermediate-range ballistic missile, which can go more than 5,000 km. “I would say this is an incredibly expensive way to deliver what is probably not that much destruction,” said Jeffrey Lewis, a US nonproliferation expert.
  • Russia said it was expelling a British diplomat that it accused of espionage and had summoned London’s ambassador to the foreign ministry in Moscow, Pjotr Sauer writes. A No 10 spokesperson said: “To be clear, we refute these allegations. They’re baseless. We’re now considering our response. This is not the first time that Putin’s government has made malicious, baseless accusations against our staff.”
  • On Tuesday the Kremlin also banned cabinet ministers including Angela Rayner, Yvette Cooper and Rachel Reeves from entering Russia under new sanctions, Pippa Crerar and Pjotr Sauer write. It comes after the UK imposed fresh sanctions on 30 oil tankers from Russia’s “shadow fleet” as Ukraine’s allies try to squeeze Vladimir Putin’s funding of the war.
  • Russian shelling killed two civilians in the city of Sumy in north-eastern Ukraine on Tuesday, said Volodymyr Zelenskyy, the Ukrainian president. Earlier, Russian forces staged their largest ever drone attack on Ukraine over Monday night into Tuesday – cutting power to much of the western city of Ternopil and damaging residential buildings in Kyiv region, Ukraine’s officials said.
  • Shaun Walker, Helena Smith and Dan Sabbagh report that speaking in Athens, the Nato secretary general, Mark Rutte, has said he wants the alliance “to go further to change the trajectory of the conflict” in the Ukrainians’ favour. Nato needed to more than just “keep Ukraine in the fight”, he suggested. Rutte highlighted the importance of strengthening the bloc’s “deterrence and defence” and the critical need to boost investment and production in the arms industry.
  • The US is continuing to surge security assistance to bolster Ukraine’s defences in the east, Antony Blinken, Joe Biden’s secretary of state, said on Tuesday after meetings with the Group of Seven democracies.
  • The Kremlin said it was preparing retaliatory measures, claiming that Ukraine twice fired US-made Atacms missiles into Russia in the last three days. Moscow said both strikes targeted air defence positions in the Kursk region.
  • Ukrainian prosecutors said on Tuesday that Russian forces had murdered five soldiers immediately after taking them prisoner in the eastern Donetsk region, building on previous war crimes allegations against Moscow. There was no immediate response to the claims from Moscow. The Ukrainian rights ombudsman, Dmytro Lubinets, said he had contacted the UN and International Committee of the Red Cross (ICRC) over the allegations.
  • A journalist who once freelanced for the US government-funded Radio Free Europe/Radio Liberty was sentenced on Tuesday to four years in prison in Russia after being convicted of cooperating with a foreign organisation. Nika Novak, 24, was found guilty after a closed hearing in the Zabaikalsky regional court in the far-eastern city of Chita. The human rights group Memorial has described Novak as a political prisoner and the RFE/RL president and CEO, Stephen Capus, said: “We condemn today’s unjust conviction and sentencing of RFE/RL journalist Nika Novak in Russia. These politically motivated charges are intended to silence individual reporters and cause a chilling effect.”
 
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Bleak CNN report this evening on the depletion of Ukrainian troops on the front lines, and increasing reliance on drones to fight the war. And Russian atrocities against captured Ukrainians, the abbreviated video made me sick. I like the optimism in this thread, hope the winter gives time for Ukraine to regroup, in spite of Trump.
Regarding the optimism-I see this as a David vs Goliath story where most people want to see what David is doing :)
 
I'm delighted!

From a response - "If anyone is wondering what you see there:These are Swedish PBV 302 armored personnel carriers, a tank from the 1960s that is now decommissioned in Sweden.Sweden is supplying the entire stock (around 200 units) to Ukraine."

"DRESDEN main station!50 (FIFTY) peace tanks are rolling towards Ukraine.WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT IT?"

 
How can there possibly be any "fresh" sanctions left to impose on Russia?,... makes zero sense.
It makes a ton of sense. The west did not go all in on sanctions - still have not - for stabilization and humanitarian and frankly goods the west may still need. They are escalating now because they know Russia is hurting bad AND the likelihood that US will bail on Ukraine, and mark my words, we are. ..it will be the first thing he does based on his and cabinet’s ties to Putin. They will instantly stop all funding and weapons transfer and roll back sanctions. It is going to be Europe’s fight next four years.
 
It makes a ton of sense. The west did not go all in on sanctions - still have not - for stabilization and humanitarian and frankly goods the west may still need. They are escalating now because they know Russia is hurting bad AND the likelihood that US will bail on Ukraine, and mark my words, we are. ..it will be the first thing he does based on his and cabinet’s ties to Putin. They will instantly stop all funding and weapons transfer and roll back sanctions. It is going to be Europe’s fight next four years.

If you're willing to participate in a war, your sanctions against the "enemy" need to be maxed out,.. I would even say to the point of enduring any resultant self discomfort that might arise from those imposed sanctions...
 
If you're willing to participate in a war, your sanctions against the "enemy" need to be maxed out,.. I would even say to the point of enduring any resultant self discomfort that might arise from those imposed sanctions...
You were correct in the first part, We are not willing to "participate" in the war but will still provide support for Ukraine to defend themselves and will also sanction Russia. Hell, we could go full embargo if we wanted. Anyone who trades with Russia does not get access to US markets, isn't likely to happen though.
 
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You were correct in the first part, We are not willing to "participate" in the war but will still provide support for Ukraine to defend themselves and will also sanction Russia. Hell, we could go full embargo if we wanted. Anyone who trades with Russia does not get access to US markets, isn't likely to happen though.

And that's exactly the type of thing that makes a lot of people doubt what we're actually doing here...
 
Even if their drones aren't up to U.S military standards they'll be able to pump them out at a much greater volume than the U.S.

While I agree drones will have a lasting impact on future warfare.... unlike Ukraine, the US has the ability to destroy said facilities quickly... so unless they are stockpiling it would still be a limited supply (currently)
 
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