If by "this could have been over 3 weeks ago" you mean the human race, then yes, you're correct.
This might be a little tougher than Putin thought...
- Thread starter Nole Lou
- Start date
I do not miss trump at all though we probably should have told the Russians about our nuclear missile subs
Not sure how I feel about that. Leaves no possibility of a negotiated resolution.
No. Russian policy defines it as a "massive land invasion." Someone has posted a link before.
Nato correctly thinks Russian military is divided and reluctant to engage, and Ukraine can win it on their own. They believe Nato troops would both unite and inspire Russian troops with a "cause," and provide Putin with excuses when he loses. Nato wants Putin gone, and that is more likely if he loses to just Ukraine.
Ol' Donny would have this over by 10:00 Feb 24th and he and Putin would be chumming it up on the Mar-a-Lago linx by noon.
You think we're sitting back watching them bomb hospitals and schools because we think we can just let Ukraine take care of it? Losing thousands of troops and more civilians in the process?
That's the reason we're sitting it out?
Bullshit.
John Deere is going to need to invent a new farm implement to separate tank and shrapnel debris from the harvest...
2/3 of the three people you talked about are discussed in the following post.
Don’t get too excited.
The Borg that is Elon Musk is just trying out the beginning of Skynet. He will fully takes over the world when he becomes fully one with the AI ecosystem.
They also said the military was just doing a scheduled training session before invading Ukraine. Why in the hell would you ever believe two words out of Putin or Lavrov’s mouths?
You have sources that say otherwise?
JFC
https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2022/03/23/7333825/
https://www.foxnews.com/world/russi...-shoigu-missing-no-public-appearances-12-days
https://www.newsweek.com/russian-defense-minister-sergei-shoigu-missing-putin-1690948
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/...gu-not-seen-in-public-for-two-weeks-pvwl55xkb
https://www.france24.com/en/europe/20220304-shoigu-and-gerasimov-masters-of-putin-s-wars
Nato wants to be united. If they attack Russian forces in the Ukraine, Russia will likely launch hypersonic and ballistic missiles at the airbases Nato planes are flying from - in Poland, Germany, Romania, US carriers in the Med. Many of those countries are likely unwilling to be bombed by Russia. Some, like Hungary or especially Bulgaria, have not sent any aid to Ukraine at all- and are virtually Russian allies.
For the record, US airbases in Iraq have now been bombed twice by Iranian ballistic missiles - once under Trump, and once under Biden - without a response or retaliation. Just because we are willing to take it, doesn't mean our frontline allies are, and we are insisting on being united - for now.
There is also a lot more we could be doing first. Providing artillery, long range rockets, Migs, anti-air systems, tanks, long range drones - that all needs to be done first, like right now. And I certainly favor using stealth aircraft and Urainian-marked drones to conduct deniable airstrikes on Russian artillery, and shoot down their aircraft.
Haha, the mental gymnastics you guys go through is impressive.
We're (NATO) not in there with boots on the ground because we're scared of potential escalation with bio/chemical/nuclear weapons. Not because a few countries are worried about a conventional hypersonic airstrike on a runway or hanger.
How does the process of accusing a person of war crimes work? Who is in charge of the “trial” and/decision making? How does punishment work? TIA.
Wish they'd keep their pie wholes shut. Next it will be an inventory list, dates at airports, etc.
Don't give your enemies any information.
So you don't know for sure. You could have just said that instead of your mental gymnastics routine. Let me guess, you don't have access to CIA source material? Some of you guys engage especially in risky speculation. Do you not realize the stakes are now nuclear?
Maybe you don't realize what you're doing, but please take your unconfirmed, wishy washy, uncertain takes offline, where they won't do any damage.
JFC
that guy on the left looks like he's trying to look like he's not actually looking at some woman's cleavage.
Yep...if it wasn't for Russia's Nukes we'd be involved militarily.
I'll admit, I haven't been in touch with my NSA guys on this one yet. Like 90% of this thread, I'm relying on news reports, articles, and twitter posts.
"Risky speculation"? By saying, repeatedly, we need to chill out on escalating the war even further with boots on the ground or establishing a no-fly-zone? Seems like you should be kissing my ass for trying to get a lot of the newfound hawkish posters here to calm their tits.
You drunk or just not good at reasoning?
This link answers some of this. https://www.un.org/en/genocideprevention/war-crimes.shtml
I also wondered what exactly constitutes war crimes. Seems like Putin/Russia his done a lot of this:
- The Court shall have jurisdiction in respect of war crimes in particular when committed as part of a plan or policy or as part of a large-scale commission of such crimes.
- For the purpose of this Statute, ‘war crimes’ means:
- Grave breaches of the Geneva Conventions of 12 August 1949, namely, any of the following acts against persons or property protected under the provisions of the relevant Geneva Convention:
- Wilful killing
- Torture or inhuman treatment, including biological experiments;
- Wilfully causing great suffering, or serious injury to body or health;
- Extensive destruction and appropriation of property, not justified by military necessity and carried out unlawfully and wantonly;
- Compelling a prisoner of war or other protected person to serve in the forces of a hostile Power;
- Wilfully depriving a prisoner of war or other protected person of the rights of fair and regular trial;
- Unlawful deportation or transfer or unlawful confinement;
- Taking of hostages.
- Other serious violations of the laws and customs applicable in international armed conflict, within the established framework of international law, namely, any of the following acts:
- Intentionally directing attacks against the civilian population as such or against individual civilians not taking direct part in hostilities;
- Intentionally directing attacks against civilian objects, that is, objects which are not military objectives;
- Intentionally directing attacks against personnel, installations, material, units or vehicles involved in a humanitarian assistance or peacekeeping mission in accordance with the Charter of the United Nations, as long as they are entitled to the protection given to civilians or civilian objects under the international law of armed conflict;
- Intentionally launching an attack in the knowledge that such attack will cause incidental loss of life or injury to civilians or damage to civilian objects or widespread, long-term and severe damage to the natural environment which would be clearly excessive in relation to the concrete and direct overall military advantage anticipated;
- Attacking or bombarding, by whatever means, towns, villages, dwellings or buildings which are undefended and which are not military objectives;
- Killing or wounding a combatant who, having laid down his arms or having no longer means of defence, has surrendered at discretion;
- Making improper use of a flag of truce, of the flag or of the military insignia and uniform of the enemy or of the United Nations, as well as of the distinctive emblems of the Geneva Conventions, resulting in death or serious personal injury;
- The transfer, directly or indirectly, by the Occupying Power of parts of its own civilian population into the territory it occupies, or the deportation or transfer of all or parts of the population of the occupied territory within or outside this territory;
- Intentionally directing attacks against buildings dedicated to religion, education, art, science or charitable purposes, historic monuments, hospitals and places where the sick and wounded are collected, provided they are not military objectives;
- Subjecting persons who are in the power of an adverse party to physical mutilation or to medical or scientific experiments of any kind which are neither justified by the medical, dental or hospital treatment of the person concerned nor carried out in his or her interest, and which cause death to or seriously endanger the health of such person or persons;
- Killing or wounding treacherously individuals belonging to the hostile nation or army;
- Declaring that no quarter will be given;
- Destroying or seizing the enemy's property unless such destruction or seizure be imperatively demanded by the necessities of war;
- Declaring abolished, suspended or inadmissible in a court of law the rights and actions of the nationals of the hostile party;
- Compelling the nationals of the hostile party to take part in the operations of war directed against their own country, even if they were in the belligerent's service before the commencement of the war;
- Pillaging a town or place, even when taken by assault;
- Employing poison or poisoned weapons;
- Employing asphyxiating, poisonous or other gases, and all analogous liquids, materials or devices;
- Employing bullets which expand or flatten easily in the human body, such as bullets with a hard envelope which does not entirely cover the core or is pierced with incisions;
- Employing weapons, projectiles and material and methods of warfare which are of a nature to cause superfluous injury or unnecessary suffering or which are inherently indiscriminate in violation of the international law of armed conflict, provided that such weapons, projectiles and material and methods of warfare are the subject of a comprehensive prohibition and are included in an annex to this Statute, by an amendment in accordance with the relevant provisions set forth in articles 121 and 123;
- Committing outrages upon personal dignity, in particular humiliating and degrading treatment;
- Committing rape, sexual slavery, enforced prostitution, forced pregnancy, as defined in article 7, paragraph 2 (f), enforced sterilization, or any other form of sexual violence also constituting a grave breach of the Geneva Conventions;
- Utilizing the presence of a civilian or other protected person to render certain points, areas or military forces immune from military operations;
- Intentionally directing attacks against buildings, material, medical units and transport, and personnel using the distinctive emblems of the Geneva Conventions in conformity with international law;
- Intentionally using starvation of civilians as a method of warfare by depriving them of objects indispensable to their survival, including wilfully impeding relief supplies as provided for under the Geneva Conventions;
- Conscripting or enlisting children under the age of fifteen years into the national armed forces or using them to participate actively in hostilities.
- Grave breaches of the Geneva Conventions of 12 August 1949, namely, any of the following acts against persons or property protected under the provisions of the relevant Geneva Convention:
So you're comfortable admonishing others and dishing out warnings and endless JFCs, but can't take your own medicine? When it is served back to you, you're just relying on news reports, articles and twitter posts. Talk about mental gymnastics.
You drunk or just not good at realizing when you're being mocked?
JFC
You're mad I called out another poster on Monday for saying I think it's a forgone conclusion that we'll be nuked when I repeatedly said I think the odds are really low, but certainly possible?
Lol, what a dumbass take. I don't care if people speculate, at least defend your thought without lying about the other person's position.
You confuse anger with amusement. It's amusing to mock someone who is taking their role as message board watchdog so seriously. I mean, I should be kissing your ass for trying to get these posters to calm their tits. Do you want an award for your efforts? Nobel Peace Prize for averting disaster by patrolling HROT awarded to some Joe Schmo guy from Ankeny that can't recognize sarcasm or mockery. Congrats!
You don't care if people speculate, but can't help but call people out for it or end a post without a JFC. Really consistent position.
JFC
Secretary Albright was there at the dedication of the Czech and Slovak museum in Cedar Rapids along with President Bill Clinton and President Vaclav Havel of the Czech Republic. That was one big ass motorcade
Here she is on a return visit to the museum!
Here she is on a return visit to the museum!
Well……Putin is a lying piece of shit so there’s that.
This is near the Black Sea. I wonder if the low temps and snow are common there at this time of year.
Hope this accurate- perhaps at least part of the Russian army will just melt away.
Why would I be mad? I'm thrilled that you've managed to calm all these hawkish posters down, you've saved us from nuclear disaster!
Would a signal help you identify when I'm being genuine versus making fun of you? How about JMY. That will be the tip off.
