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I think Frost would have been better suited for the Big 12 with the high flying offenses and after thought defenses these teams tend to play. I have heard Husker fans say how good Frosts defense was at UCF, I just never saw any evidence of a great defense. We will find out, this league is a strong defensive league and if you cannot play good and solid defense, you will never sniff a big west crown, let alone a BiG crown. Michigan with Rich Rod is a great example of that. They could score points but couldn't stop anybody from scoring. I have said it before, and I will say it again. I am damn happy that Nebby hired Frost and not Beilema. The west would have out and out been a brutal bllodbath had he become the coach. We'll see if Frost is the savior or ends up being another Rich Rod goat.
 
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scotthawk1964 said:
I think Frost would have been better suited for the Big 12 with the high flying offenses and after thought defenses these teams tend to play. I have heard Husker fans say how good Frosts defense was at UCF, I just never saw any evidence of a great defense. We will find out, this league is a strong defensive league and if you cannot play good and solid defense, you will never sniff a big west crown, let alone a BiG crown. Michigan with Rich Rod is a great example of that. They could score points but couldn't stop anybody from scoring. I have said it before, and I will say it again. I am damn happy that Nebby hired Frost and not Beilema. The west would have out and out brutal had he become the coach. We'll see if Frost is the savior or ends up being another Rich Rod goat.
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It’s going to take sometime for the defense to get their feet underneath them. We may struggle at times this year and we need to get better in the secondary in the future...

This defense takes chances and is aggressive so it will get burned at times but on the other side they will also force turnovers which you never seen very often the past 3 years.
 
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scotthawk1964 said:
I think Frost would have been better suited for the Big 12 with the high flying offenses and after thought defenses these teams tend to play. I have heard Husker fans say how good Frosts defense was at UCF, I just never saw any evidence of a great defense. We will find out, this league is a strong defensive league and if you cannot play good and solid defense, you will never sniff a big west crown, let alone a BiG crown. Michigan with Rich Rod is a great example of that. They could score points but couldn't stop anybody from scoring. I have said it before, and I will say it again. I am damn happy that Nebby hired Frost and not Beilema. The west would have out and out brutal had he become the coach. We'll see if Frost is the savior or ends up being another Rich Rod goat.
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I agree. The only thing I’ll say is I called him a flop before it was “popular” to call Scott Flop a flop! ;)
 
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scotthawk1964 said:
I think Frost would have been better suited for the Big 12 with the high flying offenses and after thought defenses these teams tend to play. I have heard Husker fans say how good Frosts defense was at UCF, I just never saw any evidence of a great defense. We will find out, this league is a strong defensive league and if you cannot play good and solid defense, you will never sniff a big west crown, let alone a BiG crown. Michigan with Rich Rod is a great example of that. They could score points but couldn't stop anybody from scoring. I have said it before, and I will say it again. I am damn happy that Nebby hired Frost and not Beilema. The west would have out and out brutal had he become the coach. We'll see if Frost is the savior or ends up being another Rich Rod goat.
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Comparing Frost's offense and Rich Rod's offense is a stretch at best. The best part about Frost's offenses is they wont need to worry about scrub teams anymore. Teams like Illinois, Purdue, Minnesota, etc, they arent fundamentally sound enough on defense to keep up once this offense gets rolling.

At that point it will just come down to Nebraska games vs the better teams which will determine how much of a success the season will be. Yes, the defense will have to play better. But traditional defensive statistics don't really tell you much when running an offense like Nebraska is going to under Frost. They are going to give up yards, but that is because they are going to be on the field a lot more than a traditional defense.

Anyways, I much prefer not having to worry about those garbage teams than Ferentz strategy of having everything be a coin flip and have close games vs Purdue but also beat OSU. It should be much more consistent.
 
I hope Frost can turn Nebraska around, because a strong Nebraska only helps the West. As far as offense goes, we'll see. The problem these fast break offense teams run into is that their defense practices against the fast break offense every day in practice, and I believe will struggle with the smash mouth power teams like Wisconsin and Iowa in the West. Add to that, many of the BiG teams play decent to great defense. Rich Rod had more horses at his disposal offensively and defensively at Michigan then Frost has at Nebraska and will probably be able to recruit, and they couldn't stop anyone. I know Husker fans don't like the Rich Rod comparison, but it is the only other style you can compare to that entered the BiG, and it was not successful. Looking at UCF, I don't see where the defense was really good, and if they cannot play great D the offensive style really won't make a difference in my opinion. I could be wrong, and am often wrong, just ask my wife. LOL
 
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whoboppin said:
Comparing Frost's offense and Rich Rod's offense is a stretch at best. The best part about Frost's offenses is they wont need to worry about scrub teams anymore. Teams like Illinois, Purdue, Minnesota, etc, they arent fundamentally sound enough on defense to keep up once this offense gets rolling.

At that point it will just come down to Nebraska games vs the better teams which will determine how much of a success the season will be. Yes, the defense will have to play better. But traditional defensive statistics don't really tell you much when running an offense like Nebraska is going to under Frost. They are going to give up yards, but that is because they are going to be on the field a lot more than a traditional defense.

Anyways, I much prefer not having to worry about those garbage teams than Ferentz strategy of having everything be a coin flip and have close games vs Purdue but also beat OSU. It should be much more consistent.
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Just so you know, this is the kind of garbage that bugs so many people about Nebraska fans. Your savior has been on campus for a few months and you've already declared that Neb will never have a close game with a middle of the road team. It takes a special breed to come over to the board of a team that's beaten you a combined 104-44 the past three seasons and claim that it's basically inevitable that you'll soon be leaps and bounds better than our lousy arses. Your entire spiel just reeks of arrogance and a lack of program self-awareness.
 
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IowaHawkeyeFBnBB4Life said:
All the Nebraska radio stations like 1480, 93.7, and 1620 have blowhards that talk like this.
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Your kidding!. Nebraska radio stations...Big Red fans highlighting Nebraska football. What's the world coming to. And the worst...making you stay tuned, listening to their commentaries. I'm glad I live in Iowa where bloviating about Hawkeye football is relegated to message boards.
 
scotthawk1964 said:
I hope Frost can turn Nebraska around, because a strong Nebraska only helps the West. As far as offense goes, we'll see. The problem these fast break offense teams run into is that their defense practices against the fast break offense every day in practice, and I believe will struggle with the smash mouth power teams like Wisconsin and Iowa in the West. Add to that, many of the BiG teams play decent to great defense. Rich Rod had more horses at his disposal offensively and defensively at Michigan then Frost has at Nebraska and will probably be able to recruit, and they couldn't stop anyone. I know Husker fans don't like the Rich Rod comparison, but it is the only other style you can compare to that entered the BiG, and it was not successful. Looking at UCF, I don't see where the defense was really good, and if they cannot play great D the offensive style really won't make a difference in my opinion. I could be wrong, and am often wrong, just ask my wife. LOL
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UCF had the #1 Scoring offense and the #5 Total Offense last year with the 105th ranked time of possession. Its just a different brand of football.

The defense will have to show up of course, but but teams like Illinois, Purdue, Minnesota, etc arent going to be able to keep up once this offense gets humming with the RPO game. The dont have the discipline. So that leave it to a shootout. Just think about Oregon under Kelly, you dont want to get into a shootout with Oregon. Thats their game. Nebraska/Frost would be dictating the tempo. Nebraska played average Oregon teams and it was still scary when they are running that pace.

Nebraska doesnt need Alabama defense, it just needs a decent defense that can get stops. Just Use a team like Iowa with there offense as an example. Say Nebraska gets hot and get up 10-0 in a game. Then kick the ball to team, if they get a 3 and out thats giving the ball back and then Nebraska could score in 1-2 mins. Its 17-0 at that point. Then an offense like Iowa has to change there whole scheme. They cant settle for 3, when the offense is humming. SO that puts a lot of pressure on a team even if its only 10-0.

Im not saying that going to happen, but thats going to take a very disciplined team to against that.
 
MeetTheFerentz said:
Just so you know, this is the kind of garbage that bugs so many people about Nebraska fans. Your savior has been on campus for a few months and you've already declared that Neb will never have a close game with a middle of the road team. It takes a special breed to come over to the board of a team that's beaten you a combined 104-44 the past three seasons and claim that it's basically inevitable that you'll soon be leaps and bounds better than our lousy arses. Your entire spiel just reeks of arrogance and a lack of program self-awareness.
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Im not saying Nebraska will NEVER have a close game vs a middle of the road team, Im saying its going to be rare if he gets the offense moving likehe wants it to vs middle of the road teams. This is 2019 and beyond.

It doesnt take a rocket scientist to say Ferentz's style of football produces a lot close games. Can we all agree on that? I'm saying the style under Frost is not conducive to close games with his style of offense vs bad teams. See Oregon under Kelly.

Im not even talking about Iowa, Im talking about the Minnesota's & Illinois of the world.
 
ThrowBones92 said:
An annual three horse race between Iowa, Nebraska and Wisconsin would make the fall a lot of fun. I do think Minnesota and NW both deserve respect. But if Iowa and Nebraska can both up their game (Nebraska needs to A LOT more than Iowa right now), maybe the West can get some respect back nationally. I would love to see it.
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I agree NW deserves respect. But what has Minnesota accomplished in recent memory that merits respect?
 
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I reside in NW Iowa and the "Go Big Red" crowd is getting pretty vocal. Their vaunted Black Shirt defense gave up over 6 yards a carry last fall and they are more concerned with....... the tunnel walk music and who is getting a "Black Shirt" to start the year. I hear a lot of noise about their offense which I agree Frost can put points up..... but very little discussion of their defense. It's Big Ten weather in November.... not sunny Orlando.
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Frosts offense won't work in the Big 10 late October and November. This is not Florida or Oregon!
 
cecilB said:
I’m not obsessed. I grew up on Neb football, live in lincoln, attended UI(7 degrees in family). I listen to the lunacy every drive home. It’s all true, was all said, and all funny. And I was just on the Husker board
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7 degrees? I’d ask for refund, or get that ever elusive psych degree
 
chiphawk59 said:
If SF tries to run that program the way that TO ran it he will fail. Too many watchdogs out there. If he runs it the Devaney ran it he will have at least a 50/50 chance of contending for winning the west 10 percent of the time
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Yawn...we will all see soon enough, ‘scratch where it itches” good god
 
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RU4NU said:
7 degrees? I’d ask for refund, or get that ever elusive psych degree
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Um, OK, whatever.

You might like this—-Saw your coach the other night at the CCL(country club of Lincoln for those not from SE Ne). Wife said, ‘does he have a big ole dip in’? Had to say, ‘yes honey, he does.’ Frosty, dippin big time - not only in a sports jacket at media days, but at ccl too...a pretty upity place. only on the frontier could that work. Good to be king, I guess. He swallows and doesn’t spit if your wondering.

I digress.

Sorry, no psych degree in the family, but the Iowa degrees my wife and I have(kids gathered the others) have allowed us to enjoy golf and dinning on a regular basis-where your Big Guy does. Totally an excess and luxury courtesy of our UI degree. Heck, I don’t even really like golfing, but it’s a good place to hang and network, and the chef is outstanding.

FWIW - on related notes... Had a nice convo w/ verducci the other day, and we reminisced a bit about our time in IC(he is one of the worst coaches in Iowa history by the way). Had Chinander earlier this summer hit into our fairway a couple of times. Never met him until then. He Noticed my Herky head covers. Said I needed new ones, the said Go Hawks, and smiled. I bought him drinks in the guys only 19th hole later. Fun talking about IC...and my growing up on Neb football.

Good guys. All of them. I’m guessing you’d be wetting your pants.

Enjoy life my friend.
 
HawkeyeReport Board: Can we stop with all these Nebraska and Iowa State threads?

HawkeyeReport Administrators: New Scott Frost Sucks thread, time to pay my water bill. Jamie Pollard is the devil thread, car payment done. Is Kirk overrated thread, new shoes for the kids...

This is all hyperbole, but also how such a site remains profitable. Lots of people on this board complain about being banned from rival team sites. This board embraces debate because it’s the livelihood of the administrators. “Kirk is a good guy” threads aren’t feeding these guys’ families.
 
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walleye hunter16 said:
I try never to let blowhards get to me because it is so much better to see how hard they have to back peddle when their BS is wrong.
The next best thing is to see the BS story to cover up the original BS, its such great entertainment.
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Husker fan here. But I am more interested in your walleye hot spots!!!!
 
cecilB said:
I’m not obsessed. I grew up on Neb football, live in lincoln, attended UI(7 degrees in family). I listen to the lunacy every drive home. It’s all true, was all said, and all funny. And I was just on the Husker board
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7 college degrees? Judging by your post, with regards to your punctuation and sentence structure, I guessing you meant 7 GED's.
 
Roysker said:
7 college degrees? Judging by your post, with regards to your punctuation and sentence structure, I guessing you meant 7 GED's.
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FWIW we were disappointed in the education our youngest received in Lincoln after we moved here. The others were in college before arriving in Lincoln. You have furthered this sentiment. Critical thinking development vs teaching to standardized test was the primary reason.

Here you go. Me-1, wife-1, children-5. 1+1+5=7.

Riddle this one...we don’t have 5 kids....oh, what, oh what could that mean?
 
whoboppin said:
Im not saying Nebraska will NEVER have a close game vs a middle of the road team, Im saying its going to be rare if he gets the offense moving likehe wants it to vs middle of the road teams. This is 2019 and beyond.

It doesnt take a rocket scientist to say Ferentz's style of football produces a lot close games. Can we all agree on that? I'm saying the style under Frost is not conducive to close games with his style of offense vs bad teams. See Oregon under Kelly.

Im not even talking about Iowa, Im talking about the Minnesota's & Illinois of the world.
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"offense moving likehe wants it tovs middleof the road teams." I have yet to see a coach who projects a close game when he gets things moving the way they want to. It may have something to do with the other team trying and having some talent.
 
Watched the Central Florida vs. South Fla. game last week on ESPN and neither team played any defense. Looked like a flag football game where you could only rush the passer after a seven count. Total sh*t show. That kind of football won't work in the B1G where the defense actually rushes the QB
 
scotthawk1964 said:
I hope Frost can turn Nebraska around, because a strong Nebraska only helps the West. As far as offense goes, we'll see. The problem these fast break offense teams run into is that their defense practices against the fast break offense every day in practice, and I believe will struggle with the smash mouth power teams like Wisconsin and Iowa in the West. Add to that, many of the BiG teams play decent to great defense. Rich Rod had more horses at his disposal offensively and defensively at Michigan then Frost has at Nebraska and will probably be able to recruit, and they couldn't stop anyone. I know Husker fans don't like the Rich Rod comparison, but it is the only other style you can compare to that entered the BiG, and it was not successful. Looking at UCF, I don't see where the defense was really good, and if they cannot play great D the offensive style really won't make a difference in my opinion. I could be wrong, and am often wrong, just ask my wife. LOL
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This is somewhat correct. The funny part is Nebraska has absolutely sucked against the smash mouth of Iowa, but has been ok against Wisconsin for whatever reason. I have no idea why they have played Wisconsin so tough for the last few years with the team Nebraska has fielded. It's very odd.
 
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