Thoughts and prayers. Another School Shooting

[IAFB2021Champs]

What does a teacher get out of anything they teach?

Pride in watching the students grow and learn. Also a paycheck.

Guessing some teachers get pride in watching them grow to be similar to what they believe in.

What do they get out of those parades?

Pride parades are about being brave enough to be yourself out in the open. Being out of the closet.

Some teachers might share this same platform in school.

Why do some schools allow cross dressers to read books to kids, what does the teacher get out of that?

I don't think that is happening in schools, but the point is being inclusive. It's for the students. Some of those students have family members that are LGBTQ.

Some students have family members that are religious. Plus millions of other things. Should we bring all these people in for reading hour?

Why do some teachers talk about religion or politics in school when it’s not part of the curriculum?

Doesn't happen in public K-12 schools.

LOL! I went to a public school where 90% of the students were catholic. You don’t think religion was talked about. Again LOL. I would also bet you a million dollars politics are being talked about as well. I know for a fact they are talked about at the university of Iowa in non political classes.

 

[Moral]

Is this how Hegseth got "radicalized", too? Do you have any clue how many of your conservative Senators and Representatives went to Ivy League schools?

Maybe it was projections again. They have been complaining about liberal indoctrination in schools while they manufacture monsters in the Ivy's.

Except for the dead kids and teachers parts...

This wouldn't be the first time an entertaining thread was birthed of tragedy.

Judging by past posting history and this post....this guy hates homosexuals yet enjoys talking about them more than anyone on the board.

@Here_4_a_Day looks like you have some competition.

 

[Moral]

Guessing some teachers get pride in watching them grow to be similar to what they believe in.

Some teachers might share this same platform in school.

Some students have family members that are religious. Plus millions of other things. Should we bring all these people in for reading hour?

LOL! I went to a public school where 90% of the students were catholic. You don’t think religion was talked about. Again LOL. I would also bet you a million dollars politics are being talked about as well. I know for a fact they are talked about at the university of Iowa in non political classes.

You have some ideas. You should turn those into a coloring book.

 

[gohawks50]

Guessing some teachers get pride in watching them grow to be similar to what they believe in.

Some teachers might share this same platform in school.

Some students have family members that are religious. Plus millions of other things. Should we bring all these people in for reading hour?

LOL! I went to a public school where 90% of the students were catholic. You don’t think religion was talked about. Again LOL. I would also bet you a million dollars politics are being talked about as well. I know for a fact they are talked about at the university of Iowa in non political classes.

Sounds like you are upset that LGBTQ exists. Do you think a teacher that is openly gay is automatically grooming students just by not hiding who they are? I don't think drag storytime is happening at schools, but if it is parents should be able to opt that their child may not participate. However, that shouldn't stop others from choosing to let their child attend. Again I don't think it happens at school.

Do you personally know any LGBTQ people? I think you need a little more exposure so you won't find them so threatening.

 

[Moral]

Sounds like you are upset that LGBTQ exists. Do you think a teacher that is openly gay is automatically grooming students just by not hiding who they are? I don't think drag storytime is happening a schools, but if it is parents should be able to opt that their child may not participate. However, that shouldn't stop others from choosing to let their child attend. Again I don't think it happens at school.

Do you personally know any LGBTQ people? I think you need a little more exposure so you won't find them so threatening.

I have been to the last couple prides in the QC. Effing terrifying. One of them struck up a conversation with me for conversation sake so I told them that I'm okay with them unless they try to do the LGBTQIA+ on me.

 

[RileyHawk]

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It’s happening, it’s just not often in the news.
If it’s not happening like you say, why are so many against religion in schools. Is that because it’s grooming a child? Only they are against this type of grooming?

Because the Founding Fathers called for separation of church and state. Few, if any, object to religion in private schools as that's a choice for the parents. Religion foisted upon children in mandated public schools takes the choice away from parents.

Religion in schools is the highest form of grooming.

You're full of shit.

 

[RileyHawk]

Why don’t you answer the second part of my post? Why don’t you want religion in schools?? Is that considered grooming?
I would assume we can all agree people have been pushing to eliminate religion from schools yet it’s fine to talk about transgender and who cares if someone wants to be a cat. Yet looking at stats through the last 20 years, school shootings continue to increase.
Wouldn’t these things stick out like a sore thumb if you were looking for something that could be causing an increase in school shootings?

You calling someone else out for not answering questions is laughable.

Are you suggesting the latest school shooter was being groomed by their religious private school?

 

[IAFB2021Champs]

Sounds like you are upset that LGBTQ exists. Do you think a teacher that is openly gay is automatically grooming students just by not hiding who they are? I don't think drag storytime is happening a schools, but if it is parents should be able to opt that their child may not participate. However, that shouldn't stop others from choosing to let their child attend. Again I don't think it happens at school.

Do you personally know any LGBTQ people? I think you need a little more exposure so you won't find them so threatening.

I’m mostly upset that people are blind to what is happening to kids.
You were a kindergarten teacher. You should know kids are impressionable.
I couldn’t care any less if someone is LGBTQ but I don’t want a teacher/school pushing someone to be that way.
I have a step cousin that is gay, an old classmate that is gay, (we knew already in elementary school in our class size of 18 kids) neighbors that are gay, one of my wife’s friends that she lived with for a few years is gay and I know others as well. What do you suggest that I need for exposure to help me not be scared of them?

 

[RileyHawk]

Well my sister in law mentioned that an elementary teacher that she works with was snap chat friends with elementary kids which already should be a no no in any normal adults opinion.
But from there she would send them inappropriate snaps in a sexual context.
So if this female teacher who likes other females is sending this type of stuff to students. Do you think it stops there or do you think she talked openly about being gay, possibly transgender and or any other liberal issues with her students and other students in the school. Remember this person is supposed to be a role model to students and someone they look up to.

Once again I know people on here don’t believe me but again, what do I have to gain by making up stuff? I don’t live in a fake world and share stuff that I experience and am told by people I know I can trust and believe.

Even if this is true, which is highly doubtful, are you suggesting there aren't heterosexual teachers doing bad things with children in schools? Even private schools? Or church?

This has NOTHING to do with your claim that public schools are grooming students to be transsexual or cat people. Nothing. NADA. Because you're a moron who believe urban myths and propaganda. And what's worse is you spread it around as if it's truth. Even worse, when you're shown to be an absolute fool for perpetuating falsehoods, you double down and spin and deflect and have a hissy fit all to avoid acknowledging you were wrong and acting like a dumbass.

You're only fooling yourself.

 

[gohawks50]

I’m mostly upset that people are blind to what is happening to kids.
You were a kindergarten teacher. You should know kids are impressionable.
I couldn’t care any less if someone is LGBTQ but I don’t want a teacher/school pushing someone to be that way.
I have a step cousin that is gay, an old classmate that is gay, (we knew already in elementary school in our class size of 18 kids) neighbors that are gay, one of my wife’s friends that she lived with for a few years is gay and I know others as well. What do you suggest that I need for exposure to help me not be scared of them?

Who turned your step cousin, classmate, or your wife's friend gay? Who groomed them? You say you knew your classmate was gay when they were in elementary school, is it possible that gay people are just born that way?

 

[RileyHawk]

Link to "recent news"?


You wanna go for a 3rd day in a row of getting dick stomped trying to paint me as anti Trans Joe? The only thing i have today is an oil change and a drive to Missouri, I'm game simple jack.

Can you point to the evidence you used to make the determination this shooter was trans?

 

[Rifler]

I think reasonable people simply expect all teachers to just leave their sexuality at home,.. Kids don't need to be exposed to it, no matter what flavor it is.

 

[RileyHawk]

I don’t know dude, it’s not exactly my job to report something like that to law enforcement. . My kids don’t go there, I don’t live in the community. I’m just telling you what a teacher that works there told me. I have no reason to suspect that a sister in law of mine has any reason to make this up, especially when she couldn’t care less about politics.
To me it sounds like children being groomed. You wanted to me to tell you of a situation.
I did exactly that.

So, in your mind, a teacher who was doing something inappropriate with students and quickly removed is a sign that public schools are grooming children to be trans and/or cats? That's your freaking logic? JFC man. You're an idiot.

 

[gohawks50]

I think reasonable people simply expect all teachers to just leave their sexuality at home,.. Kids don't need to be exposed to it, no matter what flavor it is.

Does that apply to straight teachers as well? Can they talk about their spouses, boyfriends, or girlfriends? Have pictures of them in the classroom?

I think all teachers should be able to share a little about their family lives, but I don't think that is bringing their sexuality to school.

 

[Whiskeydeltadeltatango]

Can you point to the evidence you used to make the determination this shooter was trans?

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[IAFB2021Champs]

Who turned your step cousin, classmate, or your wife's friend gay? Who groomed them? You say you knew your classmate was gay when they were in elementary school, is it possible that gay people are just born that way?

Are you guys really that close minded? You don’t think someone could pretend to be something because someone else was that way or told them things pushing towards it.
You taught in a school, were there ever high school kids that weren’t part of a group? Do you think they ever did anything they normally wouldn’t do so they could fit in with a group?
For the fun of it. Let’s change the LGBTQ you think I’m hating on to religion instead.
Catholic religion should not be pushed by our teachers or schools. I don’t want my kid being catholic just because his teacher said it was cool. I don’t want my kids teacher always wearing cloths or jewelry with a cross on it and sending snaps to my kid. I don’t want a priest coming in and reading books to my atheist kid.
Do you understand by now? I don’t want any grooming to happen in a school. I want them to be taught how to read and write. How to spell, how to do math problems. I don’t want anyone’s opinions shared in school.

 

[RileyHawk]

I’m mostly upset that people are blind to what is happening to kids.
You were a kindergarten teacher. You should know kids are impressionable.
I couldn’t care any less if someone is LGBTQ but I don’t want a teacher/school pushing someone to be that way.
I have a step cousin that is gay, an old classmate that is gay, (we knew already in elementary school in our class size of 18 kids) neighbors that are gay, one of my wife’s friends that she lived with for a few years is gay and I know others as well. What do you suggest that I need for exposure to help me not be scared of them?

Where is it happening that teachers are pushing children to be gay? What public schools are promoting this? Be specific or STFU.

 

[RileyHawk]

I think reasonable people simply expect all teachers to just leave their sexuality at home,.. Kids don't need to be exposed to it, no matter what flavor it is.

So things like having a picture of their spouse or significant other on their desk is out of the question for you?

What "sexuality" talk are you assuming occurs? Are you opposed to the sex education component of most health classes?

 

[Rifler]

Does that apply to straight teachers as well? Can they talk about their spouses, boyfriends, or girlfriends? Have pictures of them in the classroom?

Of course, and that's why I said all teachers,.. And to your second question I'd say no,.. I don't see where that level of sharing leads anywhere positive.

 

[gohawks50]

Are you guys really that minded? You don’t think someone could pretend to be something because someone else was that way or told them things pushing towards it.
You taught in a school, were there ever high school kids that weren’t part of a group? Do you think they ever did anything they normally wouldn’t do so they could fit in with a group?
For the fun of it. Let’s change the LGBTQ you think I’m hating on to religion instead.
Catholic religion should not be pushed by our teachers or schools. I don’t want my kid being catholic just because his teacher said it was cool. I don’t want my kids teacher always wearing cloths or jewelry with a cross on it and sending snaps to my kid. I don’t want a priest coming out in and reading books to my atheist kid.
Do you understand by now? I don’t want any grooming to happen in a school. I want them to be taught how to read and write. How to spell, how to do math problems. I don’t want anyone’s opinions shared in school.

I think you are envisioning lots of things happening that are just propaganda. You had a gay classmate. Why didn't everyone else in your class pretend to be gay? It's a hell of a lot more likely some students are pretending to be straight just to fit in with the "normal" group.

Where are your children going to school? Are they being groomed in some way?

 

[RileyHawk]

Are you guys really that minded? You don’t think someone could pretend to be something because someone else was that way or told them things pushing towards it.
You taught in a school, were there ever high school kids that weren’t part of a group? Do you think they ever did anything they normally wouldn’t do so they could fit in with a group?
For the fun of it. Let’s change the LGBTQ you think I’m hating on to religion instead.
Catholic religion should not be pushed by our teachers or schools. I don’t want my kid being catholic just because his teacher said it was cool. I don’t want my kids teacher always wearing cloths or jewelry with a cross on it and sending snaps to my kid. I don’t want a priest coming out in and reading books to my atheist kid.
Do you understand by now? I don’t want any grooming to happen in a school. I want them to be taught how to read and write. How to spell, how to do math problems. I don’t want anyone’s opinions shared in school.

So you want to ban someone from wearing a cross necklace or a yamulka or any other sign of their own, personal, religious beliefs? You believe religious private schools should be banned?

Is not teaching, mentoring and schoolng a student to be, say, a scientist "grooming"?

You are a very simpleminded person. JFC.

 

[gohawks50]

Of course, and that why I said all teachers,.. And to your second question I'd say no,.. I don't see where that level of sharing leads anywhere positive.

What about teachers attending school events games/concerts/plays/etc. with their spouse or significant other is that bringing their sexuality to school?

 

[RileyHawk]

Of course, and that why I said all teachers,.. And to your second question I'd say no,.. I don't see where that level of sharing leads anywhere positive.

So teachers at any school, public or private, should not be allowed to have a picture of their spouse, a wedding ring, or any discussion about their personal life with students?

What if a student asks? Tell them "I am not allowed to talk about that"?

 

[Rifler]

What about teachers attending school events games/concerts/plays/etc. with their spouse or significant other is that bringing their sexuality to school?

No,... I don't see a problem with non-classroom interaction like that.

 

[IAFB2021Champs]

So you want to ban someone from wearing a cross necklace or a yamulka or any other sign of their own, personal, religious beliefs? You believe religious private schools should be banned?

Is not teaching, mentoring and schoolng a student to be, say, a scientist "grooming"?

You are a very simpleminded person. JFC.

Science is a class taught in school. Do you want a class to be how to be gay or how to be straight?
How am i the simple minded person? I am telling you these types of things happen in schools yet you don’t believe it. You’re so simple minded you don’t believe anything outside of what you think or believe.

 

[Ree4]

So bunnies and buckets are fake? Holy shit. It’s weird how you only see certain things. Like you bring up covid as not being real yet guns, Covid, bunnies and buckets are all real, only you’re afraid of Covid and guns.

Umm, are you unable to process the meme? Seems like it went right over your head LOL. I don't even know how to respond to this nonsensical rambling.

 

[Ree4]

I’m mostly upset that people are blind to what is happening to kids.
You were a kindergarten teacher. You should know kids are impressionable.
I couldn’t care any less if someone is LGBTQ but I don’t want a teacher/school pushing someone to be that way.
I have a step cousin that is gay, an old classmate that is gay, (we knew already in elementary school in our class size of 18 kids) neighbors that are gay, one of my wife’s friends that she lived with for a few years is gay and I know others as well. What do you suggest that I need for exposure to help me not be scared of them?

You think that being around gay people makes people gay?

 

[IAFB2021Champs]

You think that being around gay people makes people gay?

the same way non religious people think being around them makes them religious.

 

[Ree4]

the same way non religious people think being around them makes them religious.

That's like saying that having brown hair and being able to read are both learned. I can't even begin to describe the absolute disconnect with reality that you have.

 

[McLovin32]

Science is a class taught in school. Do you want a class to be how to be gay or how to be straight?
How am i the simple minded person?

hahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahaha

 

[Moral]

That's like saying that having brown hair and being able to read are both learned. I can't even begin to describe the absolute disconnect with reality that you have.

There are two options possibilities for him. He is the most masterful troll ever to post on HBOT or he is a little bit dumb.

 

[Ree4]

hahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahaha

How the hell are you even supposed to respond to something like that?!?

 

[RileyHawk]

Science is a class taught in school. Do you want a class to be how to be gay or how to be straight?
How am i the simple minded person? I am telling you these types of things happen in schools yet you don’t believe it. You’re so simple minded you don’t believe anything outside of what you think or believe.

You're simple minded, in part, because you believe these things are happening because schools are promoting it.

 

[Ree4]

There are two options possibilities for him. He is the most masterful troll ever to post on HBOT or he is a little bit dumb.

Has to be a huge troll, right?

 

[RileyHawk]

the same way non religious people think being around them makes them religious.

What non religious people do you know who think this way? I don't know one.

 

[RileyHawk]

Has to be a huge troll, right?

Not nearly bright enough to be a troll.

 

[darylhawk]

It always seems to be the people that have obviously spent very little time in schools that complain about indoctrination in schools.

 

[gohawks50]

It always seems to be the people that have obviously spent very little time in schools that complain about indoctrination in schools.

Don't you know everybody is an expert on what happens in schools except teachers.

 

[McLovin32]

Don't you know everybody is an expert on what happens in schools except teachers.

I'm starting to think his obsession with cat people stems from that debunked myth that schools starting putting litter boxes in their bathrooms for students that identify as cats. But IAFB is kinda slow, and forgot where he initially heard it from, so he made up the fact that his wife's cousin's daughter thinks shes a cat and started using that as "proof" that it happens.

 

[gohawks50]

I'm starting to think his obsession with cat people stems from that debunked myth that schools starting putting litter boxes in their bathrooms for students that identify as cats. But IAFB is kinda slow, and forgot where he initially heard it from, so he made up the fact that his wife's cousin's daughter thinks shes a cat and started using that as "proof" that it happens.

I think he really believes liberals are out to get working class families like his. Somehow schools and teachers are automatically considered liberals. He'd be surprised how many teachers especially in my part of the state are just as conservative and religious as his family. I have a feeling he's been groomed by the social media and news he consumes.