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This Man Did The Math And It Would Be Cheaper To Move To An All-Inclusive Resort Than Live In His Apartment​

BuzzFeed
Thu, February 15, 2024 at 10:06 PM CST·7 min read

According to data from Zillow, the average rent price in the US was $1,958 in January 2024, making rent 29.4% more expensive than before the pandemic.

Of course, in some cities, rents are even higher. San Jose topped the list with an average rent of $3,177.

Recently, 31-year-old Ben Keenan (@ivebentraveling) did a bit of math and discovered that spending a month at an all-inclusive resort or living on a cruise ship just might come out to be a bit less expensive than the cost of living in his Seattle apartment, and it's giving people lots to think about.

Man questioning cost-effectiveness of living at an all-inclusive resort


Ben showed his work in a TikTok video that's since been viewed over 5.5 million times. He says, "Have we ever considered that it's actually cheaper to live in an all-inclusive resort than it is to live in the apartments that we currently occupy?" Then, for full transparency, he breaks down his monthly spending on rent, groceries, utilities, going out, and more.

Man discusses monthly expenses in a TikTok video


Ben's rent is $2,300, which is fairly close to the current median Seattle rent price of $2,011 (and nowhere near some of the $4k+ prices I spotted while browsing current Seattle listings).

He pays $300 for utilities and $320 for his car expenses and auto insurance. He has a grocery budget of $400 and typically spends $300 a month on dinners out and another $300 on things like drinks and activities with friends.

Add in $40 for wifi and $40 for the gym, and his monthly total comes to $4,000.

Next, Ben scrolls through some all-inclusive resorts in Mexico, noting one that's priced at $4,500 for the month of April. "Yes, that's $500 more than what I normally spend on rent, but bear in mind, I'm not paying the most expensive rent out there compared to, like, what other people in Seattle might be paying, for example. Also, is that $500 worth me never having to do a single ounce of laundry or any of my cleaning or whatever?"

He also looks into a resort that costs $3,100 a month in the Dominican Republic and notes that a double room in a higher-end resort would absolutely be cheaper than his current expenses if he split it with a roommate.

He concludes the video saying, "I just thought it was really interesting that there's a chance I could truly go live an all-inclusive lifestyle somewhere for approximately the same cost as all of my monthly expenses."

In the comments, many pointed out the recent trend of retirees opting to live on cruise ships as a more affordable option. So, in a follow-up video, Ben looked into whether a month-long cruise would be cheaper than his typical month in Seattle.
comment mentioning an older couple living on cruise ships for 2 years due to cost-effectiveness

The longest cruise he found in his search was 19 days, but he figured out a way to make it work by looking into booking two cruises back to back. The total for two cruises (and airfare from Seattle to Hawaii to catch the boat) was pretty surprising.
Ben says, "That grand total is $4,042 which is only $42 greater than what my budget already is. And keep in mind that budget was for 30 days, not 37 days." So it's certainly possible to spend less to live on cruise ships than to rent an apartment in a city. Do with that info what you will.

Other commenters shared tips about booking long-term travel, like this former hotel employee who suggested negotiating a better rate on a month-long stay.
you can contact the sales department and negotiate you might be able to get a better deal

@ivebentraveling / Via tiktok.com
And others pointed out that thanks to remote work, something like this could be totally doable for them.
I work remote. my kid can homeschool. this is the future


I found this whole discussion really fascinating — and also pretty dystopian. We all know that it's expensive to live in the city, but I wouldn't have expected the costs to be so comparable to a luxurious resort. Like, you mean to tell me I could have a buffet and housekeeping for what I'm currently paying to make my own meals and do my own chores?? It's a lot to process.
Hotel cleaning cart stocked with towels and cleaning supplies in a corridor


It also made me think more about what urbanist Jon Jon Wesolowski told me in a recent post about how suburban sprawl drains funds from American cities and artificially inflates costs for urban renters. According to Wesolowski, "Suburbs are a luxury, and we shouldn't be forcing society to subsidize this luxury."

Yet, at the same time, when city dwellers are honest about their expenses, people often respond by shaming them for their perceived extravagance. Even Ben found himself being scolded by commenters — the current top comment on Ben's video says, "Or learn to live within your means."

The way we often judge other people's spending reminds me of an old George Carlin bit where he says everyone who drives slower than him is an idiot and everyone going faster is a maniac. We tend to think that we're the only ones doing it right, and we often forget that we have much more in common with the people going a bit faster or slower than we do with the billionaires zooming ahead of us at the speed of light.

Ben told BuzzFeed that he was struck by how many commenters assumed that his spending must be outpacing his income. "People assumed that expenses like $2,300 for rent a month or $600 on dinner and drinks per month was 'living outside my means.' The reality is that this is living in a city — rent is expensive and so are food and drink. A beer in Seattle will run you $8 alone, and a dinner out is easily approaching $100 per meal."
comment saying or learn to live within your means. a sarcastic reply says oh wow didn't think of that! you're a genius
 
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"When you understand the cost of living in a densely populated area, suddenly these expenses don't look that absurd," Ben says.

And he shared that his videos really came from a place of curiosity. "This all started as I was sitting at a brewery with my friends Jess and Geordan, and we were talking about how expensive just existing was getting nowadays. We started a bit of what we call 'what if-ing' — the question was: WHAT IF we had the money to just live somewhere where we didn't have to worry about any responsibilities, but could just exist, 'like an all-inclusive resort on the beach'."

"That quickly turned into, 'wait, I wonder how much living at an all-inclusive would actually cost?' The sad reality then hit that a month abroad with the resort lifestyle is actually pretty comparable to the costs we're currently paying."

Finally, he said that comparing these costs made him think differently about his future. "Bluntly, many Gen Z and Millennials don't see a future where they're able to afford the luxuries of our parents (2.5 kids, house with a white picket fence, etc.), so we need to be realistic about the hard truth that either a) that won't happen for us or b) that won't happen for us WITHIN the United States. International travel and becoming a true 'global citizen' has never been more of a retirement plan than it is right now."

Aerial view of a cruise ship docked in a coastal town with mountains in the background


"Maybe I'll give this lifestyle a try myself one day, and I promise to report back if that's the case — stay tuned."

Now I'm curious: where do you live and how do these costs compare to your monthly spending? Would you ever consider an all-inclusive lifestyle? Let's talk about it in the comments!

 
In that case I'll just move to Bali. Had a friend who just spent 6 months there and said you can live like a king for 2.5k a month. 2 bedroom villa by the beach w/ a pool, Butler, maid, chef, all monthly expenses, etc.
 
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This Man Did The Math And It Would Be Cheaper To Move To An All-Inclusive Resort Than Live In His Apartment​

BuzzFeed
Thu, February 15, 2024 at 10:06 PM CST·7 min read

According to data from Zillow, the average rent price in the US was $1,958 in January 2024, making rent 29.4% more expensive than before the pandemic.

Of course, in some cities, rents are even higher. San Jose topped the list with an average rent of $3,177.

Recently, 31-year-old Ben Keenan (@ivebentraveling) did a bit of math and discovered that spending a month at an all-inclusive resort or living on a cruise ship just might come out to be a bit less expensive than the cost of living in his Seattle apartment, and it's giving people lots to think about.

Man questioning cost-effectiveness of living at an all-inclusive resort


Ben showed his work in a TikTok video that's since been viewed over 5.5 million times. He says, "Have we ever considered that it's actually cheaper to live in an all-inclusive resort than it is to live in the apartments that we currently occupy?" Then, for full transparency, he breaks down his monthly spending on rent, groceries, utilities, going out, and more.

Man discusses monthly expenses in a TikTok video


Ben's rent is $2,300, which is fairly close to the current median Seattle rent price of $2,011 (and nowhere near some of the $4k+ prices I spotted while browsing current Seattle listings).

He pays $300 for utilities and $320 for his car expenses and auto insurance. He has a grocery budget of $400 and typically spends $300 a month on dinners out and another $300 on things like drinks and activities with friends.

Add in $40 for wifi and $40 for the gym, and his monthly total comes to $4,000.

Next, Ben scrolls through some all-inclusive resorts in Mexico, noting one that's priced at $4,500 for the month of April. "Yes, that's $500 more than what I normally spend on rent, but bear in mind, I'm not paying the most expensive rent out there compared to, like, what other people in Seattle might be paying, for example. Also, is that $500 worth me never having to do a single ounce of laundry or any of my cleaning or whatever?"

He also looks into a resort that costs $3,100 a month in the Dominican Republic and notes that a double room in a higher-end resort would absolutely be cheaper than his current expenses if he split it with a roommate.

He concludes the video saying, "I just thought it was really interesting that there's a chance I could truly go live an all-inclusive lifestyle somewhere for approximately the same cost as all of my monthly expenses."

In the comments, many pointed out the recent trend of retirees opting to live on cruise ships as a more affordable option. So, in a follow-up video, Ben looked into whether a month-long cruise would be cheaper than his typical month in Seattle.
comment mentioning an older couple living on cruise ships for 2 years due to cost-effectiveness

The longest cruise he found in his search was 19 days, but he figured out a way to make it work by looking into booking two cruises back to back. The total for two cruises (and airfare from Seattle to Hawaii to catch the boat) was pretty surprising.
Ben says, "That grand total is $4,042 which is only $42 greater than what my budget already is. And keep in mind that budget was for 30 days, not 37 days." So it's certainly possible to spend less to live on cruise ships than to rent an apartment in a city. Do with that info what you will.

Other commenters shared tips about booking long-term travel, like this former hotel employee who suggested negotiating a better rate on a month-long stay.
you can contact the sales department and negotiate you might be able to get a better deal

@ivebentraveling / Via tiktok.com
And others pointed out that thanks to remote work, something like this could be totally doable for them.
I work remote. my kid can homeschool. this is the future


I found this whole discussion really fascinating — and also pretty dystopian. We all know that it's expensive to live in the city, but I wouldn't have expected the costs to be so comparable to a luxurious resort. Like, you mean to tell me I could have a buffet and housekeeping for what I'm currently paying to make my own meals and do my own chores?? It's a lot to process.
Hotel cleaning cart stocked with towels and cleaning supplies in a corridor


It also made me think more about what urbanist Jon Jon Wesolowski told me in a recent post about how suburban sprawl drains funds from American cities and artificially inflates costs for urban renters. According to Wesolowski, "Suburbs are a luxury, and we shouldn't be forcing society to subsidize this luxury."

Yet, at the same time, when city dwellers are honest about their expenses, people often respond by shaming them for their perceived extravagance. Even Ben found himself being scolded by commenters — the current top comment on Ben's video says, "Or learn to live within your means."

The way we often judge other people's spending reminds me of an old George Carlin bit where he says everyone who drives slower than him is an idiot and everyone going faster is a maniac. We tend to think that we're the only ones doing it right, and we often forget that we have much more in common with the people going a bit faster or slower than we do with the billionaires zooming ahead of us at the speed of light.

Ben told BuzzFeed that he was struck by how many commenters assumed that his spending must be outpacing his income. "People assumed that expenses like $2,300 for rent a month or $600 on dinner and drinks per month was 'living outside my means.' The reality is that this is living in a city — rent is expensive and so are food and drink. A beer in Seattle will run you $8 alone, and a dinner out is easily approaching $100 per meal."
comment saying or learn to live within your means. a sarcastic reply says oh wow didn't think of that! you're a genius't think of that! you're a genius
I wonder what the commute is like from Playa to Des Moines.
 
Different situation, but I had a coworker who did this during COVID. Spent several months at a Mexican resort with the kids doing online school and her and spouse working remote. It was cheap because they wanted guests.
 
I know someone who also did this after COVID. Lived in Caribbean for a year working remote. Said it was far less than living in the US so she was able to save quite a bit that year. But, I don't think this would come to a surprise to most that there are many far less expensive places to live. But, you have to have the ability to work remote or be rich and not worry. She did say one of the drawbacks was lack of good healthcare.
 
I know someone who also did this after COVID. Lived in Caribbean for a year working remote. Said it was far less than living in the US so she was able to save quite a bit that year. But, I don't think this would come to a surprise to most that there are many far less expensive places to live. But, you have to have the ability to work remote or be rich and not worry. She did say one of the drawbacks was lack of good healthcare.
That's always the thing that jumps out at me when watching HGTV shows where people buy homes in the Caribbean, Mexico, etc. What happens if you have a serious medical problem?
 

This Man Did The Math And It Would Be Cheaper To Move To An All-Inclusive Resort Than Live In His Apartment​

BuzzFeed
Thu, February 15, 2024 at 10:06 PM CST·7 min read

According to data from Zillow, the average rent price in the US was $1,958 in January 2024, making rent 29.4% more expensive than before the pandemic.

Of course, in some cities, rents are even higher. San Jose topped the list with an average rent of $3,177.

Recently, 31-year-old Ben Keenan (@ivebentraveling) did a bit of math and discovered that spending a month at an all-inclusive resort or living on a cruise ship just might come out to be a bit less expensive than the cost of living in his Seattle apartment, and it's giving people lots to think about.

Man questioning cost-effectiveness of living at an all-inclusive resort


Ben showed his work in a TikTok video that's since been viewed over 5.5 million times. He says, "Have we ever considered that it's actually cheaper to live in an all-inclusive resort than it is to live in the apartments that we currently occupy?" Then, for full transparency, he breaks down his monthly spending on rent, groceries, utilities, going out, and more.

Man discusses monthly expenses in a TikTok video


Ben's rent is $2,300, which is fairly close to the current median Seattle rent price of $2,011 (and nowhere near some of the $4k+ prices I spotted while browsing current Seattle listings).

He pays $300 for utilities and $320 for his car expenses and auto insurance. He has a grocery budget of $400 and typically spends $300 a month on dinners out and another $300 on things like drinks and activities with friends.

Add in $40 for wifi and $40 for the gym, and his monthly total comes to $4,000.

Next, Ben scrolls through some all-inclusive resorts in Mexico, noting one that's priced at $4,500 for the month of April. "Yes, that's $500 more than what I normally spend on rent, but bear in mind, I'm not paying the most expensive rent out there compared to, like, what other people in Seattle might be paying, for example. Also, is that $500 worth me never having to do a single ounce of laundry or any of my cleaning or whatever?"

He also looks into a resort that costs $3,100 a month in the Dominican Republic and notes that a double room in a higher-end resort would absolutely be cheaper than his current expenses if he split it with a roommate.

He concludes the video saying, "I just thought it was really interesting that there's a chance I could truly go live an all-inclusive lifestyle somewhere for approximately the same cost as all of my monthly expenses."

In the comments, many pointed out the recent trend of retirees opting to live on cruise ships as a more affordable option. So, in a follow-up video, Ben looked into whether a month-long cruise would be cheaper than his typical month in Seattle.
comment mentioning an older couple living on cruise ships for 2 years due to cost-effectiveness

The longest cruise he found in his search was 19 days, but he figured out a way to make it work by looking into booking two cruises back to back. The total for two cruises (and airfare from Seattle to Hawaii to catch the boat) was pretty surprising.
Ben says, "That grand total is $4,042 which is only $42 greater than what my budget already is. And keep in mind that budget was for 30 days, not 37 days." So it's certainly possible to spend less to live on cruise ships than to rent an apartment in a city. Do with that info what you will.

Other commenters shared tips about booking long-term travel, like this former hotel employee who suggested negotiating a better rate on a month-long stay.
you can contact the sales department and negotiate you might be able to get a better deal

@ivebentraveling / Via tiktok.com
And others pointed out that thanks to remote work, something like this could be totally doable for them.
I work remote. my kid can homeschool. this is the future


I found this whole discussion really fascinating — and also pretty dystopian. We all know that it's expensive to live in the city, but I wouldn't have expected the costs to be so comparable to a luxurious resort. Like, you mean to tell me I could have a buffet and housekeeping for what I'm currently paying to make my own meals and do my own chores?? It's a lot to process.
Hotel cleaning cart stocked with towels and cleaning supplies in a corridor


It also made me think more about what urbanist Jon Jon Wesolowski told me in a recent post about how suburban sprawl drains funds from American cities and artificially inflates costs for urban renters. According to Wesolowski, "Suburbs are a luxury, and we shouldn't be forcing society to subsidize this luxury."

Yet, at the same time, when city dwellers are honest about their expenses, people often respond by shaming them for their perceived extravagance. Even Ben found himself being scolded by commenters — the current top comment on Ben's video says, "Or learn to live within your means."

The way we often judge other people's spending reminds me of an old George Carlin bit where he says everyone who drives slower than him is an idiot and everyone going faster is a maniac. We tend to think that we're the only ones doing it right, and we often forget that we have much more in common with the people going a bit faster or slower than we do with the billionaires zooming ahead of us at the speed of light.

Ben told BuzzFeed that he was struck by how many commenters assumed that his spending must be outpacing his income. "People assumed that expenses like $2,300 for rent a month or $600 on dinner and drinks per month was 'living outside my means.' The reality is that this is living in a city — rent is expensive and so are food and drink. A beer in Seattle will run you $8 alone, and a dinner out is easily approaching $100 per meal."
comment saying or learn to live within your means. a sarcastic reply says oh wow didn't think of that! you're a genius't think of that! you're a genius
His argument isn't the brightest. If location isn't an issue, he could live much more affordably than at an all-inclusive resort and enjoy a better quality of life.
 
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In that case I'll just move to Bali. Had a friend who just spent 6 months there and said you can live like a king for 2.5k a month. 2 bedroom villa by the beach w/ a pool, Butler, maid, chef, all monthly expenses, etc.
A friend of mine lived in Bali and said the same. Could live like a king for cheap or can live in a legit nice place for dirt cheap rates.
 
So living in an apartment costs him $340 per month for an auto but living at a resort he no longer has this expense? Why would he need a car with his apartment if he doesn't need one for his hotel?
 
So living in an apartment costs him $340 per month for an auto but living at a resort he no longer has this expense? Why would he need a car with his apartment if he doesn't need one for his hotel?
My guess would be to drive to get dinner, drinks, entertainment, gym, groceries, etc. At the AI it's all there without the need to leave.
 
Small town Iowa living can be very affordable. I know prices have changed, but 20 years ago my grandfather bought an 1800 sq ft home for $18k, he put in $10k of upgrades (he did the work) and sold it 4 months later for $38k. Even with inflation, those homes can be purchased for cheap. Also, property tax at the time was under $1k for the year. It was ~1hr drive from Cedar Rapids.
 
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