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Top Secret CIA File Taken to trump White House Missing-Contained Raw Russian Intelligence

Digitally, with super encryption protection. I realize that digital information gets hacked, but everything else in the world in on computers now - figure it out. It's better than having a couple of truckloads going to Mar-a-Lago.

If it's gonna be paper, it should be kept in a vault-like location and to see them you have to go there. Carrying around binders that can be taken anywhere is incredibly sloppy.
Ex FBI guy Frank Figliuzzi was on Lib TV yesterday and he said electronic. Tighten access. And, audit relentlessly. If you get something, especially via paper you only get it for a set period of time before and auditor asks you why you still have it?
 
You said it. Clearly, you don't think.
I never once said I didn't believe it.

You are such a tool. You quote on word or half sentence and thinks that's what the person is saying.

I take back what I said this morning. You aren't smart. You're a buffoon. I can't believe you get on here and say stupid ass stuff and think your smart. You say only things that are talking points for other people.

You can't even figure out what CO2 is and then claim you know about climate. Instead, you miss quote something of mine and claim I'm not speaking English. Ya, if you take half a sentence or a few words out of a paragraph, it might not sound coherent.
 
You can't even figure out what CO2 is

I've posted for you one of the key experiments on CO2 and its discovery as a greenhouse gas.

Your inability to Google that info up is a "you" problem.

I deal with the issues CO2 and other greenhouse gases create for IR camera imaging & measurements; something else you have zero clue on.
 
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You've implied that many times.
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This is you.
 

In April 2016, I broke the story of Trump and Putin, using Russian open sources. Afterwards, I heard vague intimations that something was awry in the FBI in New York, specifically counter-intelligence and cyber. We now have a suggestion as to why. 0/20
The person who led the relevant section, Charles McGonigal, has just been charged with taking money from the Russian oligarch Oleg Deripaska. Follow this thread to see just how this connects to the victory of Trump, the Russian war in Ukraine, and U.S. national security. 1/20

The reason I was thinking about Trump & Putin in 2016 was a pattern. Russia had sought to control Ukraine, using social media, money, & a pliable head of state. Russia backed Trump the way that it had backed Ukrainian president Viktor Yanukovych, in the hopes of soft control 2/20

Trump & Yanukovych were similar figures: interested in money, & in power to make or shield money. And therefore vulnerable partners for Putin. They also shared a political advisor: Paul Manafort. He worked for Yanukovych from 2005-2015, taking over Trump's campaign in 2016. 3/20

You might remember Manafort's ties to Russia from 2016. He (and Jared Kushner, and Donald Trump, Jr.) met with Russians in June 2016 in Trump Tower as part of, as the broker of the meeting called it, "the Russian government's support for Trump" (#RoadToUnfreedom, p. 237). 4/20

Manafort had to resign as Trump's campaign manager in August 2016 when news broke that he had received $12.7 million in cash from Yanukovych. But these details are just minor elements of Manafort's dependence on Russia. (#RoadToUnfreedom, p. 235). 5/20

Manafort worked for Deripaska, the same Russian oligarch to whom McGonigal is linked, between 2006 and 2009. Manafort's assignment was to soften up the U.S for Russian influence. He promised "a model that can greatly benefit the Putin government." (#RoadToUnfreedom, p. 234). 6/20

While Manafort worked for Trump in 2016, though, Manafort's dependence on Russia was deeper. He owed Deripaska money, not a position one would want to be in. Manafort offered Deripaska "private briefings" on the campaign. He was hoping "to get whole." (#RoadToUnfreedom, 234) 7/20

Reconsider how the FBI treated the Trump-Putin connection in 2016. Trump and other Republicans screamed that the FBI had overreached. In retrospect, it seems the exact opposite took place. The issue of Russian influence was framed in a way convenient for Russia and Trump. 8/20

The FBI investigation, Crossfire Hurricane, focused on the narrow issue of personal connections between the Trump campaign and Russians. It missed Russia's cyber attacks and the social media campaign, which, according to Kathleen Hall Jamieson, won the election for Trump. 9/20

Once the issue of Russian soft control was framed narrowly as personal contact, Obama missed the big picture, and Trump had an easy defense. Trump knew that Russia was working for him, but the standard of guilt was placed so high that he could defend himself. 10/20

It is entirely inconceivable that McGonigal was unaware of Russia's 2016 cyber influence campaign on behalf of Trump. Even I was aware of it, and I had no expertise. It became one of the subjects of my book #RoadtoUnfreedom. 11/20

The FBI did investigate cyber later, and came to some correct conclusions. But this was after the election, and missed the Russian influence operations entirely. That was an obvious counterintelligence issue. Why did the FBI take so long, and miss the point? 12/20

I had no personal connection to this, but will just repeat what informed people said at the time: this sort of thing was supposed to go through the FBI counter-intelligence section in New York, where tips went to die. That is where McGonigal was in charge. 13/20

The cyber element is what McGonigal should have been making everyone aware of in 2016. In 2016, McGonigal was chief of the FBI's Cyber-Counterintelligence Coordination Section. That October, he was put in charge of the Counterintelligence Division of the FBI's NY office. 14/20

We need to understand why the FBI failed in 2016 to address the essence of an ongoing Russian influence operation. The character of that operation suggests that it would have been the responsibility of an FBI section whose head is now accused of taking Russian money. 15/20

Right after the McGonigal story broke, Kevin McCarthy ejected Adam Schiff from the House intelligence committee. Schiff is expert on Russian influence operations. It exhibits carelessness about national security to exclude him. It is downright suspicious to exclude him now. 16/20

Back in June 2016, Kevin McCarthy expressed his suspicion that Donald Trump was under Putin's influence. He and other Republican members concluded that the risk of an embarrassment to their party was more important than American security. #RoadToUnfreedom, p. 255. 17/20

The Russian influence operation to get Trump elected was real. It serves no one to pretend otherwise. We are still learning about it. Denying that it happened makes the United States vulnerable to ongoing Russian operations. 18/20

I remember a certain frivolity from 2016. Trump was a curiosity. Russia was irrelevant. Nothing to take seriously. Then Trump was elected, blocked weapon sales to Ukraine, and tried to stage a coup. Now Ukrainians are dying every day in the defining conflict of our time. 19/20

The McGonigal question goes even beyond these issues. He had authority in the most sensitive possible investigations within U.S. intelligence. Sorting this out will require a concern for the United States that goes beyond party loyalty. 20/20
 
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Just ok? You going to the Soldiers Salute? Or just watch it on Big10+. I'm going to be back in that area then, I'm thinking of going.
I have a wedding to attend that weekend out of town or else would be going.
 
I have a wedding to attend that weekend out of town or else would be going.
Probably actually not giving myself enough credit, I'm doing better than okay. Split and stacked a bunch of wood today till it started to rain. It's the holidays so there are lots of good foods around to eat. The family is all happy and healthy. Got a lot to be thankful for. Thanks for asking. Hope you are good too.
 
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Probably actually not giving myself enough credit, I'm doing better than okay. Split and stacked a bunch of wood today till it started to rain. It's the holidays so there are lots of good foods around to eat. The family is all happy and healthy. Got a lot to be thankful for. Thanks for asking. Hope you are good too.
I have too many expensive habits. So, I have to work then head towards home. It's that very time of year to be thankful for all the great things we have.

Man, it'd be nice to have a wood fireplace/stove again. Miss it. Take care.
 
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He was however in charge of starting the "Trump collided with Russia", narrative.

You are talking about the same Robert Mueller that briefed Pres. Bush and then sat in front of congress under oath and said, "Iraq has Weapons of Mass Destruction." That guy?

He's a political hack and only put a couple zingers in there just to keep the Dems happy with the report. I have read the report and they found nothing that linked Trump to Russia.

But then again, one of their own departments was just found guilty on colluding with Russia. This very same person was put in charge of the initial start of the investigation. So, is the Mueller report bias or just political theater?

You may be thinking od Dick Cheney, the guy who went to the Washington Post or New York paper, and told the reporter there were weapons of mass destruction in Iraq. She then wrote the story telling what she had been told and then Cheney went on all of the Sunday shows citing that article that there were WMDs in Iraq. That guy?
 
In April 2016, I broke the story of Trump and Putin, using Russian open sources. Afterwards, I heard vague intimations that something was awry in the FBI in New York, specifically counter-intelligence and cyber. We now have a suggestion as to why. 0/20
The person who led the relevant section, Charles McGonigal, has just been charged with taking money from the Russian oligarch Oleg Deripaska. Follow this thread to see just how this connects to the victory of Trump, the Russian war in Ukraine, and U.S. national security. 1/20

The reason I was thinking about Trump & Putin in 2016 was a pattern. Russia had sought to control Ukraine, using social media, money, & a pliable head of state. Russia backed Trump the way that it had backed Ukrainian president Viktor Yanukovych, in the hopes of soft control 2/20

Trump & Yanukovych were similar figures: interested in money, & in power to make or shield money. And therefore vulnerable partners for Putin. They also shared a political advisor: Paul Manafort. He worked for Yanukovych from 2005-2015, taking over Trump's campaign in 2016. 3/20

You might remember Manafort's ties to Russia from 2016. He (and Jared Kushner, and Donald Trump, Jr.) met with Russians in June 2016 in Trump Tower as part of, as the broker of the meeting called it, "the Russian government's support for Trump" (#RoadToUnfreedom, p. 237). 4/20

Manafort had to resign as Trump's campaign manager in August 2016 when news broke that he had received $12.7 million in cash from Yanukovych. But these details are just minor elements of Manafort's dependence on Russia. (#RoadToUnfreedom, p. 235). 5/20

Manafort worked for Deripaska, the same Russian oligarch to whom McGonigal is linked, between 2006 and 2009. Manafort's assignment was to soften up the U.S for Russian influence. He promised "a model that can greatly benefit the Putin government." (#RoadToUnfreedom, p. 234). 6/20

While Manafort worked for Trump in 2016, though, Manafort's dependence on Russia was deeper. He owed Deripaska money, not a position one would want to be in. Manafort offered Deripaska "private briefings" on the campaign. He was hoping "to get whole." (#RoadToUnfreedom, 234) 7/20

Reconsider how the FBI treated the Trump-Putin connection in 2016. Trump and other Republicans screamed that the FBI had overreached. In retrospect, it seems the exact opposite took place. The issue of Russian influence was framed in a way convenient for Russia and Trump. 8/20

The FBI investigation, Crossfire Hurricane, focused on the narrow issue of personal connections between the Trump campaign and Russians. It missed Russia's cyber attacks and the social media campaign, which, according to Kathleen Hall Jamieson, won the election for Trump. 9/20

Once the issue of Russian soft control was framed narrowly as personal contact, Obama missed the big picture, and Trump had an easy defense. Trump knew that Russia was working for him, but the standard of guilt was placed so high that he could defend himself. 10/20

It is entirely inconceivable that McGonigal was unaware of Russia's 2016 cyber influence campaign on behalf of Trump. Even I was aware of it, and I had no expertise. It became one of the subjects of my book #RoadtoUnfreedom. 11/20

The FBI did investigate cyber later, and came to some correct conclusions. But this was after the election, and missed the Russian influence operations entirely. That was an obvious counterintelligence issue. Why did the FBI take so long, and miss the point? 12/20

I had no personal connection to this, but will just repeat what informed people said at the time: this sort of thing was supposed to go through the FBI counter-intelligence section in New York, where tips went to die. That is where McGonigal was in charge. 13/20

The cyber element is what McGonigal should have been making everyone aware of in 2016. In 2016, McGonigal was chief of the FBI's Cyber-Counterintelligence Coordination Section. That October, he was put in charge of the Counterintelligence Division of the FBI's NY office. 14/20

We need to understand why the FBI failed in 2016 to address the essence of an ongoing Russian influence operation. The character of that operation suggests that it would have been the responsibility of an FBI section whose head is now accused of taking Russian money. 15/20

Right after the McGonigal story broke, Kevin McCarthy ejected Adam Schiff from the House intelligence committee. Schiff is expert on Russian influence operations. It exhibits carelessness about national security to exclude him. It is downright suspicious to exclude him now. 16/20

Back in June 2016, Kevin McCarthy expressed his suspicion that Donald Trump was under Putin's influence. He and other Republican members concluded that the risk of an embarrassment to their party was more important than American security. #RoadToUnfreedom, p. 255. 17/20

The Russian influence operation to get Trump elected was real. It serves no one to pretend otherwise. We are still learning about it. Denying that it happened makes the United States vulnerable to ongoing Russian operations. 18/20

I remember a certain frivolity from 2016. Trump was a curiosity. Russia was irrelevant. Nothing to take seriously. Then Trump was elected, blocked weapon sales to Ukraine, and tried to stage a coup. Now Ukrainians are dying every day in the defining conflict of our time. 19/20

The McGonigal question goes even beyond these issues. He had authority in the most sensitive possible investigations within U.S. intelligence. Sorting this out will require a concern for the United States that goes beyond party loyalty. 20/20
You stupid Libs and your made up Russia stories!
 
It will be amazing how many people “never voted for trump, never took him seriously, or I voted for the third party” people are out there in 5-10 years when all of this Republican shitburger gets unpacked.
I really don't think that's going to happen. There's an alternate universe where Trump is akin to the biblical David and always will be.
 
Digitally, with super encryption protection. I realize that digital information gets hacked, but everything else in the world in on computers now - figure it out. It's better than having a couple of truckloads going to Mar-a-Lago.

If it's gonna be paper, it should be kept in a vault-like location and to see them you have to go there. Carrying around binders that can be taken anywhere is incredibly sloppy.

JFC. That's the point.
 
Nice.

So, the system we have for classified docs - it's all good?

A rude remark on my part, but the "Binder" was a 10" thick piece of material. It was not meant to be mobile and certainly not to leave secure environments. The Orange Turd White House was notoriously cavalier in mishandling secure information prior to the Mir-a-Lago disaster.

This information was made available to the public by news reporting. I'm surprised you needed to be informed, hence the stupid reference.
 
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A rude remark on my part, but the "Binder" was a 10" thick piece of material. It was not meant to be mobile and certainly not to leave secure environments. The Orange Turd White House was notoriously cavalier in mishandling secure information prior to the Mir-a-Lago disaster.
Anything that can be carried around is by definition unsecured. In these times when we elect people based on "showmanship", and they in turn hire their supporters for high level positions, You can never be sure who is going to have access to sensitive data or be able to walk away with it.

It's long past time for this information to be locked down - make it impossible for someone to just carry it home or put it in a truck for Mar-a-Lago.
 
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Anything that can be carried around is by definition unsecured. In these times when we elect people based on "showmanship", and they in turn hire their supporters for high level positions, You can never be sure who is going to have access to sensitive data or be able to walk away with it.

It's long past time for this information to be locked down - make it impossible for someone to just carry it home or put it in a truck for Mar-a-Lago.

Agreed, but if a President or any staff member has access, what are you going to do? A dysfunctional fruitcake sitting in the Oval Office can declassify by "imagining"? Think it's bad now? What's it going to be like in an Orange Turd WH w/o restrictions or any one with balls to confront the mini dick!
 
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You may be thinking od Dick Cheney, the guy who went to the Washington Post or New York paper, and told the reporter there were weapons of mass destruction in Iraq. She then wrote the story telling what she had been told and then Cheney went on all of the Sunday shows citing that article that there were WMDs in Iraq. That guy?
100%, Mueller was the one who said it under oath. So yes, Dick easily could have been at the route of it. Liz is just an extension of Dick.
 
Go google and check the video. Mueller said "as secretary Powell testified last week that Iraq has WMDs". He did not testify that Iraq had WMDs himself. He quoted Powell. Big dif.
Huh, the director of the FBI (which gathers intelligence) quoted the Secretary of Defense. Where do you think Powell got the intel from?
 
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