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Top transfers are asking for $2.50M to $3.0M

The Iowa athletic dept had revenues exceed expenses by less than 39k last year
How can that be?
Probably more than 400 athletes on schollys..mostly out of state tuition.

It is a socialist system, just like the BIG sharing revenues with OSU helping NW.
But I guess that is now antiquated in a me first country.
So I guess it's time to eliminate all non- revenue sports and go with the euro system of pro teams littered with 16 yr old phenoms with the other 98 percent playing pick up ball at the park after their job at the convience store.

I love my hawks and would miss watching them but universities are not intended to be pro sports franchises....time to focus on educating.

Budgeting must be fun this year.

* In 2025-2026 schools will be paying out $20M in revenue sharing.

* Beth is trying to get the "big donors" to donate towards the Carver renovation.

* Rick Heller is looking for funding to continue their baseball stadium improvements.

* Meanwhile, those same "big donors" are being asked to donate to SWARM Inc in order to acquire talent and essentially make teenagers (and up to 22 year olds) very wealthy.
 
"Attend university"?

You're watching too much British television and/or movies.

Also, the athletes are struggling with it, and will be struggling with it even more in the near future, including the ones at your favorite university. 🙂

They are struggling? Sounds like some are becoming multi-millionaires. Sign me up for that struggle.
 
So how much could a reserve Center expect, if anything.

(just wondering if I was born too soon)
 
Budgeting must be fun this year.

* In 2025-2026 schools will be paying out $20M in revenue sharing.

* Beth is trying to get the "big donors" to donate towards the Carver renovation.

* Rick Heller is looking for funding to continue their baseball stadium improvements.

* Meanwhile, those same "big donors" are being asked to donate to SWARM Inc in order to acquire talent and essentially make teenagers (and up to 22 year olds) very wealthy.
Ah that’s me Gave to all of the above. Not sure how long this can continue from my standpoint
 
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And they can keep working on that free degree, which opens more doors later in life.

Imagine what the value of this package is annually, especially for out of state (and private school) tuition.

Players are now getting:
* NIL payments from boosters
* Revenue sharing
* Free tuition
* Free housing
* Free HIGH QUALITY food, 24/7
* Free supplements (protein, vitamins, etc)
* Free training facility access
* Free physical therapy
* Free massage therapy
* Free personal training
* Free coaching for development & increasing the player's value
* Free tutoring
* Free Nike (or Adidas, etc) clothing

Also:
* Every 4 years a trip to Europe
* Holiday tournament trips to the Caribbean (or other warm climate destinations)
* Finish college with NO student debt (HUGE advantage for a young adult)
* Personalized support through any transitional process in college, from registering for classes, to moving into dorms, to transferring from one institution to another
* Alum network, to help you land a job after playing days are over
* Celebrity status (and perks) for the rest of their life

And what about what universities are getting when they sell out 17,000 seat arenas, sell season tickets for $2,000 at some schools, charge $10 for nachos, $25 for parking, $80 for a jersey and make millions on TV advertising.
 
And what about what universities are getting when they sell out 17,000 seat arenas, sell season tickets for $2,000 at some schools, charge $10 for nachos, $25 for parking, $80 for a jersey and make millions on TV advertising.

They use that revenue to pay expenses.

Iowa sponsors 22 sports; there's a lot of out of state student-athletes in those 22 sports (out of state tuition is not cheap). Beyond the expenses for those 22 sports, they have venues to maintain; staff to pay; etc.

Revenues are currently barely more than expenses. Sure, revenues will increase moving forward, but expenses will, too.
 
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Thank you! It’s amazing to me how many people have been brainwashed into thinking workers don’t deserve to be compensated fairly for what their labor generates in revenue. A whole bunch of corporate bootlickers out there.
Fair??? lol. How’s the g league attendance and tv numbers.
How are those other pro football teams doing outside the nfl?
 
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And what about what universities are getting when they sell out 17,000 seat arenas, sell season tickets for $2,000 at some schools, charge $10 for nachos, $25 for parking, $80 for a jersey and make millions on TV advertising.
Then consider that, I believe, all Big10 schools are over $1 Billion in endowments. Iowa sits on $3.5 B and is like 15th on the Public institution list.
 
Now compare that to what universities bring in off the entertainment product created by those athletes.

Why are you so pissed off about talented young people making money off the effort they put in? You seem really bitter and jealous.
Or how about the players start own league and fund it and pay for the full list Fram talked about. And colleges say you get scholarships and all the perks Fran said as it’s a hell of a deal.

Why should the university pay for all that? They can hop around every other game to the highest bidder and kill it! Imagine they don’t have to share any with the colleges.

THEY the reason anyone watches so why share any go get it all and kill college.

O that’s right as soon as the colleges stop bending the knee to these entitled given everything’s they would realize they have zero leverage because just like the GLeague or European BBall people don’t really care.

People like Iowa, etc not John who nobody who thinks he’s already bigger than the system.

Like I stated before, hard pass on this New New
 
I pay nearly one hundred dollars a month to have the sports channels that show the Hawks. Fans in eastern Iowa pay hundreds or even thousands of dollars to watch the Hawks in person. The NCAA Tournament is so popular that apparently vasectomy rates spike in mid-March so that men recovering from the surgery have an excuse to stay home and watch the games. We all do this for one reason: to watch the players play. We don't tune in to watch the refs jog up and down the floor, we don't tune in to watch the coaches stomp around and yell at the refs, we don't tune in to listen to the announcers. The players are the product that everyone is paying money to watch. They are so good at their sport that people will pay significant sums of money to watch them play.
Most of us do NOT watch to see the players play. They watch to see 'our' players play. And what makes them 'our' players? Because they go to OUR college, etc. I watch virtually NO OTHER games except IOWA games. I am pretty sure about 80% of those watching are the same, and especially watching in person.
 
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Most of us do NOT watch to see the players play. They watch to see 'our' players play. And what makes them 'our' players? Because they go to OUR college, etc. I watch virtually NO OTHER games except IOWA games. I am pretty sure about 80% of those watching are the same, and especially watching in person.
Yep the season is over for me.
 
I have watched very little of the NCAA tournament. I just don't care, and it's not because Iowa is not in it.

It will be interesting to see if fan apathy grows across the nation. I hope so. The product, imo, is not worth the time to watch.
I've actually watched more this year than in past years. I think the teams themselves are collectively better than what we've been getting the past couple years, even if the games haven't all been living up to the hype.

I barely watched any of the men's tournament last year.

UConn was the most boring champion we've had in quite some time, and it doesn't help that Hurley is a massive tool.
 
I have watched very little of the NCAA tournament. I just don't care, and it's not because Iowa is not in it.

It will be interesting to see if fan apathy grows across the nation. I hope so. The product, imo, is not worth the time to watch.

Why would you hope for fan apathy? FYI the ratings are better than they have been for a generation.

 
And they can keep working on that free degree, which opens more doors later in life.

Imagine what the value of this package is annually, especially for out of state (and private school) tuition.

Players are now getting:
* NIL payments from boosters
* Revenue sharing
* Free tuition
* Free housing
* Free HIGH QUALITY food, 24/7
* Free supplements (protein, vitamins, etc)
* Free training facility access
* Free physical therapy
* Free massage therapy
* Free personal training
* Free coaching for development & increasing the player's value
* Free tutoring
* Free Nike (or Adidas, etc) clothing

Also:
* Every 4 years a trip to Europe
* Holiday tournament trips to the Caribbean (or other warm climate destinations)
* Finish college with NO student debt (HUGE advantage for a young adult)
* Personalized support through any transitional process in college, from registering for classes, to moving into dorms, to transferring from one institution to another
* Alum network, to help you land a job after playing days are over
* Celebrity status (and perks) for the rest of their life
And generating billions in revenue for schools, media, etc.
 
Where are the academic standards? When will someone be declared academically ineligible? I would like a federal law that athletes must meet the same requirements as all other students.

Are you suggesting guys are academically ineligible but the schools are hiding it somehow?
 

All about who has the best sugar daddys............................​

The Dark Money Behind Duke Basketball​

Story by Andrew Beaton
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5 min read


It’s no secret how the best college basketball teams are assembled these days: Follow the money.

It isn’t hard to find. The boosters who spend millions to lure in prized freshmen and coveted transfer players sit courtside at games, while the fundraising collectives that pool money to attract premier talent actively solicit donations online.


But if you’re looking for the money behind the most iconic brand in college basketball, the favorite to win the NCAA tournament and the team that landed future No. 1 NBA pick Cooper Flagg, you’re likely to find nothing at all.

Duke has steamrolled its way to the Final Four because it has one of the greatest collections of players in modern college basketball history. Yet who exactly is paying for a roster that cost millions of dollars to put together remains a gigantic mystery.

In a move that’s highly unusual for a major college program, there’s virtually no online footprint for Duke basketball’s booster collective. That’s not because the Blue Devils have somehow managed to construct a star-studded team without gobs of cash lining players’ pockets, though.

Instead, Duke is in a position to compete for its sixth national championship thanks to a group of high net worth donors who have chosen to operate in a way that makes them unique in the braggadocious world of college sports—by conducting their business from the shadows.

People involved with the operation say the group’s silence is intentional. They say their goal is to give coach Jon Scheyer the resources to compete, to support his vision and never be a distraction from the ultimate goal of winning national championships.


Cooper Flagg and the Blue Devils are 35-3 heading into the Final Four.

Cooper Flagg and the Blue Devils are 35-3 heading into the Final Four.© robert deutsch/Reuters
What little evidence there is of the group’s existence is buried deep in corporate records. In March of 2023, two weeks after Scheyer’s first season as Mike Krzyzewski’s replacement ended with a loss in the NCAA tournament’s round of 32, three Duke alumni incorporated a non-profit in Delaware. With an address listed as an office building in Arkansas, they called it “One Vision Futures Fund” and applied to do business in North Carolina, according to state records.

In its annual report for last year, there was no hiding its purpose in an era when college athletes get paid for their name, image and likeness. The form says, “Description of nature of business: Sports NIL.”

The address of OVFF, as it’s known, belongs to the office of Duke alum Jeff Fox, the CEO and founder of the investment firm Circumference Group. He’s listed on incorporating documents as one of three executive officers, along with fellow alumni Dan Levitan, co-founder of the venture capital firm Maveron, and Steve Duncker, a former partner at Goldman Sachs.

The three men are no strangers to supporting their alma mater on the hardwood. More than two decades ago, Levitan convinced the school to start the Duke Basketball Venture Capital Co-Investment Fund, which was believed to be the first VC fund supporting a single college sports team.

“Universities are better served by a VC participating in a fund than just giving the same amount directly,” Levitan told The Wall Street Journal in 2006.

That was eons ago in the world of college sports. Well-heeled boosters are no longer limited to funding a new practice facility or chipping in for the coaching staff to get a raise. Now they can actually pay the players.

Which makes Duke’s backers an outlier. In taking a more secretive approach, they have chosen to operate in total silence even though what they’re doing is perfectly legal.

Most collectives loudly broadcast their activities because they’ll take money from anyone with a credit card. Auburn’s “On to Victory,” “Florida Victorious” and Houston’s “LinkingCoogs” all have websites where visitors can become a member and donate to the team within a couple of clicks. Those schools’ athletic departments also publicly promote their collectives.


OVFF has no such digital presence, and its near invisibility stands in stark contrast to Duke’s other booster collective. The Durham Devil’s Club has a website offering memberships that start at $20 a month and lists a number of teams it supports from football to women’s soccer—but notably not the basketball team.

In response to inquiries from the Journal about the collective’s activities, Rachel Baker, the Duke men’s basketball general manager who was hired in 2022 to oversee NIL, says OVFF’s under-the-radar approach is quite intentional. For one, she says, it helps protect the players’ personal lives when boosters aren’t touting how much they’re being paid.

“It’s no secret what we do,” Baker says, “but the discretion around it is more about our athletes’ privacy than anything else.”

The collective’s membership has been kept small on purpose, too, Baker says. After hearing stories about donors who tried to interfere with team decision making or had strings tied to their capital, OVFF wanted a tightly held group that was happy to invest passively and trust in Scheyer to run the team.


OVFF’s privacy and exclusivity has other benefits, too, Baker says. By not advertising the dollar numbers it throws around, it has allowed the collective to stay nimble in the marketplace of players. The lean operation also means they’ve avoided overhead costs, such as a business manager, with the goal that all the money going in should flow directly back out to the players.

The timing of OVFF’s founding indicates that Duke was actually a bit late to the game of tapping wealthy supporters to pay players. While other schools immediately began forking out money, Duke took a more conservative approach—especially during the wild-west early days of NIL, when the regulations over paying players were unclear.

“When I first met coach Scheyer, one of the first things he told me: ‘We’re not bending any rules,’” Baker says. “We really sat back to survey the market and then make the best Duke decision for how we wanted to move forward.”


Given that the collective was formed after last year’s freshman class had already committed, this marks the first season when its muscle is being fully deployed. It’s no coincidence that this also marks Duke’s return to superpower status.

This Blue Devil roster features what’s undoubtedly a pricey group of talent. Flagg alone reportedly makes millions off NIL, while two of his fellow freshmen, Kon Kneuppel and Khaman Maluach, were five-star recruits who are expected to be first-round NBA picks. The team also added several key veterans in the transfer portal, home to many of the game’s fiercest bidding wars.

Baker declined to give a precise figure for the budget of this year’s roster. But even before NIL, the school was accustomed to donors contributing enormous sums to the basketball team. Duke already had something called the Legacy Fund, created by Krzyzewski to endow the team.

The minimum donation for the Legacy Fund: $1 million.

Write to Andrew Beaton at andrew.beaton@wsj.com
 
Are you suggesting guys are academically ineligible but the schools are hiding it somehow?
You are a fool if you think some of these athletes are held to academic standards necessary to be eligible. I have had kids in class at Iowa with some of the athletes that said they were never in class. The schools make sure the athletes are eligible, one way or another. Are you going to tell me with a straight face that Jamaal Tinsley did the course work needed to be stay eligible?
 
Then consider that, I believe, all Big10 schools are over $1 Billion in endowments. Iowa sits on $3.5 B and is like 15th on the Public institution list.
Endowments are ear marked by the donors for very specific things. We have a million dollar endowment that specifies it has to go to a researcher in prostate cancer. That means we can hire a prostate cancer researcher. Without it, it means we don't have a prostate cancer researcher. It doesn't mean we saved money on a prostate cancer researcher, now we can get that PG transfer we need from Out of State U.

Also the million dollar endowments are not cash. You take a percent, usually 5%, because that is what a reasonable return on investments will yield. 5% of 1 million is 50,000. So you have 50K to hire a prostate cancer researcher, not a point guard.
 
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You are a fool if you think some of these athletes are held to academic standards necessary to be eligible. I have had kids in class at Iowa with some of the athletes that said they were never in class. The schools make sure the athletes are eligible, one way or another. Are you going to tell me with a straight face that Jamaal Tinsley did the course work needed to be stay eligible?

He was making the case that NIL is going to be making guys ineligible. If you want to make the case it’s the same as it always has been well I don’t see a reason to disagree.
 
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