Touchy subject here but do we want ISU to win as many games as they can?

[Beattheohiostate]

Yes.

As long as Iowa remains in the race for the playoff, however unlikely (and it's unlikely but not that unfathomable), I'm going to root for other results that increase our chances of making it.

ISU having a good season, and our loss being seen as a respectable 1-point loss to good team, rather than huh they lost at home to Iowa State, could be the difference between a 10-2 Iowa getting in the playoff and missing out.

I would add to this discussion by pointing this out: Notre Dame, not facing an especially challening schedule, has already lost @ home to Northern Illinois. That loss should be much more damaging to ND than the freaky, 1-point loss to Iowa State should be for Iowa. Lots of things have to bounce the right way for the Hawkeyes to be in the playoff discussion at the end of all this, but it's not impossible. I hate the ISU loss because it never should have happened. Never. But it did, so that makes Iowa's peformance @ Ohio State next week the key to staying in the playoff discussion. Obviously, pulling off one of the top upsets of the season would be ideal, but staying competitive for 60 minutes would keep hope alive in terms of the playoffs.

Right now, it's all speculation.

 

[pistachio1999]

I would add to this discussion by pointing this out: Notre Dame, not facing an especially challening schedule, has already lost @ home to Northern Illinois. That loss should be much more damaging to ND than the freaky, 1-point loss to Iowa State should be for Iowa. Lots of things have to bounce the right way for the Hawkeyes to be in the playoff discussion at the end of all this, but it's not impossible. I hate the ISU loss because it never should have happened. Never. But it did, so that makes Iowa's peformance @ Ohio State next week the key to staying in the playoff discussion. Obviously, pulling off one of the top upsets of the season would be ideal, but staying competitive for 60 minutes would keep hope alive in terms of the playoffs.

Right now, it's all speculation.

All other things about equal, who do you think committee would take Iowa or Notre Dame. You know the answer.

 

[mro1978]

 

[Hawky42]

I am scared shitless over what Iowa State can become. They might be annual conference title contender, we will be lucky to beat them going forward.

 

[OutbackBowl2017]

It's sad that many posters on here would rather root for ISU to lose than have a good season so that our resume looks better for potential post-season options.

You don’t deserve a play off spot losing at home to a lessor opponent. It’s the KF way.

 

[Ladell-hawk]

Do you like Iowa's chances of coming out on top over: Utah, BYU, KSU, ISU, UCF, AND wildcard Colorado with this year's team? Cause I don't.

Yes, I do. Not an outstanding team in the bunch, except maybe Utah. They don’t even play BYU or Colorado, not that either on of them is very good.

 

[Ladell-hawk]

I am scared shitless over what Iowa State can become. They might be annual conference title contender, we will be lucky to beat them going forward.

Another guy living in fear, get some help.

 

[littlez]

The Iowa St game doesn’t mean anything boys, cmon. Like I’m going to be pulling for them to go undefeated because it’s really going to help us. Cmon now. We’ve played just a few games here. Let’s let the season play out a bit.

 

[CeMar_Clone]

Iowa State will tank in one they shouldn't. Always happens.

Yep, Iowa never tanks one. LOL!

 

[rfgiowa]

NEVER!

 

[ExcellentBread]

Like most fans in the state of Iowa I want both teams to win and make noise nationally.

It was interesting reading what people here thought when Tx and Oklahoma left the B12 and so many fans beating their chest about how much money Iowa was going to make with the B10 expansion. As a fan of both teams all I could think was, it’s going to be a lot more fun to be an ISU fan than an Iowa fan in this new landscape. Both teams are still gonna have to do more with less but ISU has vastly smaller obstacles in their way.

 

[blubberhawk]

Like most fans in the state of Iowa I want both teams to win and make noise nationally.

It was interesting reading what people here thought when Tx and Oklahoma left the B12 and so many fans beating their chest about how much money Iowa was going to make with the B10 expansion. As a fan of both teams all I could think was, it’s going to be a lot more fun to be an ISU fan than an Iowa fan in this new landscape. Both teams are still gonna have to do more with less but ISU has vastly smaller obstacles in their way.

Where in the hell are you from? Most fans in Iowa DO NOT want both programs to win and make noise nationally. I sat in the Doctor's office in Ames last winter and listened to the office girls discussing how much they hated C. Clark and praying for them to lose. I live close to Ames and have yet to know a Cyclone fan who also is supportive of Iowa. The hate is deep and real.

In the future, ISU will have fewer obstacles in their way. They also will be in a league fighting for table scraps as far as money is concerned. Look at the SEC and BIG matchups throughout the season. Huge games virtually every week involving the Blue bloods of the sport. Who in the hell is going to tune in and watch BIG 12 football except the fans of the individual teams?

 

[jonesy5960]

No. They should lose every game in every sport always.

Are you sure you're not confusing them with Nebraska? 🤔

 

[BonzoFury]

Like most fans in the state of Iowa I want both teams to win and make noise nationally.

It was interesting reading what people here thought when Tx and Oklahoma left the B12 and so many fans beating their chest about how much money Iowa was going to make with the B10 expansion. As a fan of both teams all I could think was, it’s going to be a lot more fun to be an ISU fan than an Iowa fan in this new landscape. Both teams are still gonna have to do more with less but ISU has vastly smaller obstacles in their way.

No. Most fans don't want their rival to do well.

 

[hawkeye54545]

Not just no but F*** no. I hope they someday have to fold.

 

[ExcellentBread]

Where in the hell are you from? Most fans in Iowa DO NOT want both programs to win and make noise nationally. I sat in the Doctor's office in Ames last winter and listened to the office girls discussing how much they hated C. Clark and praying for them to lose. I live close to Ames and have yet to know a Cyclone fan who also is supportive of Iowa. The hate is deep and real.

In the future, ISU will have fewer obstacles in their way. They also will be in a league fighting for table scraps as far as money is concerned. Look at the SEC and BIG matchups throughout the season. Huge games virtually every week involving the Blue bloods of the sport. Who in the hell is going to tune in and watch BIG 12 football except the fans of the individual teams?

Central Iowa. Most Iowans are casual fans of both schools. If you are a diehard ISU or Iowa fan, as most on this board are, then you might not want your rivals to win. But the vast majority of Iowans only dislike the other team on gameday.

I would bet if you fast-forward twenty years from now ISU will have more college football playoff appearances than Iowa. You can call that table scraps if you want. I’ll never understand how fans can boast about the money their team brings in when it comes at the expense of wins and enjoyment of program success. Like, what is the benefit of you, as a consumer of Hawkeye football if the AD is bringing in more money?

 

[millah_22]

I am obviously not from Iowa just went to school there however I understand the deep hatred between both programs… I don’t have that deep hate for them and usually root for them if it doesn’t effect Iowa’s season but I would think as long as they keep on winning and looking good it would benefit Iowa (as long as they keep on winning) be more beneficial for Iowa?

As long as Iowa keep winning and they keep on winning I would have to root for them to do well and with the schedule they have I am maybe seeing one loss but again it’s ISU and they find a way to fook up when they’re supposed to win easily.

I do not care if they win.

 

[BonzoFury]

Central Iowa. Most Iowans are casual fans of both schools. If you are a diehard ISU or Iowa fan, as most on this board are, then you might not want your rivals to win. But the vast majority of Iowans only dislike the other team on gameday.

I would bet if you fast-forward twenty years from now ISU will have more college football playoff appearances than Iowa. You can call that table scraps if you want. I’ll never understand how fans can boast about the money their team brings in when it comes at the expense of wins and enjoyment of program success. Like, what is the benefit of you, as a consumer of Hawkeye football if the AD is bringing in more money?

Often lost is the meaning of "fan". It's short for fanatic. So casual fan is a bit of an oxymoron. No doubt there are casual followers of both teams just because they're the state universities and like everyone to win. But a FAN...does not cheer for their rival.

 

[ExcellentBread]

Often lost is the meaning of "fan". It's short for fanatic. So casual fan is a bit of an oxymoron. No doubt there are casual followers of both teams just because they're the state universities and like everyone to win. But a FAN...does not cheer for their rival.

I’ve donated and been season ticket holder for both teams and have met many others who have done the same. Kind of weird to finally learn I’m not a fan.

 

[Osiris_99]

It's sad that many posters on here would rather root for ISU to lose than have a good season so that our resume looks better for potential post-season options.

Then we should have won our game with them! Never rooting for the Clowns.

 

[Hawkstate1]

Central Iowa. Most Iowans are casual fans of both schools. If you are a diehard ISU or Iowa fan, as most on this board are, then you might not want your rivals to win. But the vast majority of Iowans only dislike the other team on gameday.

I would bet if you fast-forward twenty years from now ISU will have more college football playoff appearances than Iowa. You can call that table scraps if you want. I’ll never understand how fans can boast about the money their team brings in when it comes at the expense of wins and enjoyment of program success. Like, what is the benefit of you, as a consumer of Hawkeye football if the AD is bringing in more money?

Uh no, you are delusional.

 

[KFsdisciple]

If you believe iowa still has a shot at the 12 team playoff, you need iowa state to legitimize their win. IF after black Friday iowa is 10-2, and the losses are to #2 Ohio State and #8 Iowa State... iowa could be on the back end of the playoff field.

The odds are, Iowa will have 3 losses by the end of the season, and 9 wins is still a good year but it doesn't matter what Iowa State's record is.

Due to the geographical and population challenges that Iowa faces, it doesn't do them any good in the big picture for Iowa State to build or sustain momentum. Nobody is going to give Iowa extra credit for losing to iowa state.

 

[tweeterhawk]

It's sad that many posters on here would rather root for ISU to lose than have a good season so that our resume looks better for potential post-season options.

GTFO with talk of playoffs or “post-season options.” Even in the best of scenarios Iowa is not finishing ahead of the top 3-4 teams in the league.

No. Having dealt most of my life with insufferable ‘Clone fans (redundant, I know), I want them to lose every game in every sport.

 

[Hans81]

Some very mature responses here. Bonzo I agree with what you say, to say it's long shot is putting it lightly.
For me ISU is still an Iowa school, if not playing Iowa I hope they do well. Until next year lose the "little brother" crap. What was the score THIS year? I guess I'll never understand the hate thing for ISU. It's a football game played by kids!!!

I would agree with you (in concept); however, most, if not all. iSU fans that I encounter have a deep hatred of Iowa Hawkeye sports. Therefore, that makes it somewhat difficult to just ignore the clones…which I try to do when they aren’t playing Iowa.

 

[Ferentz_Fan]

Central Iowa. Most Iowans are casual fans of both schools. If you are a diehard ISU or Iowa fan, as most on this board are, then you might not want your rivals to win. But the vast majority of Iowans only dislike the other team on gameday.

I would bet if you fast-forward twenty years from now ISU will have more college football playoff appearances than Iowa. You can call that table scraps if you want. I’ll never understand how fans can boast about the money their team brings in when it comes at the expense of wins and enjoyment of program success. Like, what is the benefit of you, as a consumer of Hawkeye football if the AD is bringing in more money?

So….a clown?

 

[Ferentz_Fan]

I would agree with you (in concept); however, most, if not all. iSU fans that I encounter have a deep hatred of Iowa Hawkeye sports. Therefore, that makes it somewhat difficult to just ignore the clones…which I try to do when they aren’t playing Iowa.

AHF, I went to school at ISU, back in black, lol

 

[JerseyCityHawki]

If you believe iowa still has a shot at the 12 team playoff, you need iowa state to legitimize their win. IF after black Friday iowa is 10-2, and the losses are to #2 Ohio State and #8 Iowa State... iowa could be on the back end of the playoff field.

The odds are, Iowa will have 3 losses by the end of the season, and 9 wins is still a good year but it doesn't matter what Iowa State's record is.

Due to the geographical and population challenges that Iowa faces, it doesn't do them any good in the big picture for Iowa State to build or sustain momentum. Nobody is going to give Iowa extra credit for losing to iowa state.

Agree

 

[ExcellentBread]

Uh no, you are delusional.

I’m delusional in thinking that ISU will have more playoff appearances? Explain your reasoning, then.

This site has an algorithm giving CFP probabilities. ISU is at 29% and Iowa is at 8%. I do think Iowa is a better team this year and this is their best shot to make the playoffs at least for a few years; mature team, favorable schedule. On the other hand this is just a casual young year for ISU. Why do you think their chances are so much better? Both teams are given a >99% chance of making the playoffs if they win out.

 

[BonzoFury]

I’ve donated and been season ticket holder for both teams and have met many others who have done the same. Kind of weird to finally learn I’m not a fan.

Weird indeed. Who buys season tickets for two rival teams unless you're doing it for business reasons.

 

[MitchLL]

Getting into the playoffs with this QB would result in another 35-0 beat down.

No thanks!

 

[swagsurfer02]

Even if Iowa finishes 10-3 and its only losses are to B1G champion Ohio State (in regular season and B1G championship game) and Big 12 champion Iowa State (it hurt to write that), I don't believe that Iowa's strength of other wins would be enough to finish in the top 12 of the committee rankings.

But, make no mistake, unless Iowa upsets Ohio State in regular season and finishes 11-2 (losing to Ohio State in B1G championship), Iowa's only chance to make the playoffs is if ISU wins the Big 12.

From a bigger picture perspective, it is far more annoying to me that, in year 1 of the new landscape, we are seeing how much more difficult it will be for Iowa to make the CFP than it will be for ISU.

Iowa has to be in the top 3 or 4 of the Big Ten to make the playoff. Iowa State will have to win their conference. I’m guessing more often than not, the Big 12 will only get one team in.

 

[swagsurfer02]

I’m delusional in thinking that ISU will have more playoff appearances? Explain your reasoning, then.

This site has an algorithm giving CFP probabilities. ISU is at 29% and Iowa is at 8%. I do think Iowa is a better team this year and this is their best shot to make the playoffs at least for a few years; mature team, favorable schedule. On the other hand this is just a casual young year for ISU. Why do you think their chances are so much better? Both teams are given a >99% chance of making the playoffs if they win out.

My guess is that if Iowa was going to get into the playoff, this is the year to do it. I don’t see our schedule being much easier in the future. We play exactly 1 of the big 5 schools (Ohio St, Michigan, Penn St, Oregon, USC).

 

[tdburg1]

I have zero hate for ISU, only Iowa fans who pump up ISU’s ego with their hate. ISU is meaningless, so let them go and have some fun. Can’t see them any better than 8-4, ao who cares. KF coached Iowa into a dismal loss in that game, and you guys love KF, so let it go and cheer on Cy.

 

[Legs94]

I have zero hate for ISU, only Iowa fans who pump up ISU’s ego with their hate. ISU is meaningless, so let them go and have some fun. Can’t see them any better than 8-4, ao who cares. KF coached Iowa into a dismal loss in that game, and you guys love KF, so let it go and cheer on Cy.

They aren’t meaningless this year. They will go undefeated into the playoffs. You are crazy if you don’t think that affects in season recruiting.

 

[Hawkstate1]

I’m delusional in thinking that ISU will have more playoff appearances? Explain your reasoning, then.

This site has an algorithm giving CFP probabilities. ISU is at 29% and Iowa is at 8%. I do think Iowa is a better team this year and this is their best shot to make the playoffs at least for a few years; mature team, favorable schedule. On the other hand this is just a casual young year for ISU. Why do you think their chances are so much better? Both teams are given a >99% chance of making the playoffs if they win out.

This: https://247sports.com/longformartic...rams-ranked-by-nil-efforts-235181311/#2472518

The gap between the haves and have nots is going to get wider and wider. Believe it, or not......Iowa is a "have". The Misfit Toy Conference that Moo U currently plays in will probably only have one team in the CFP. B1G; 3-4. So your statement that ISU will have more play-off appearances is laughable. The Big 12 is in the transition to becoming a feeder conference for the Power 2 conferences. ISU should enjoy it's limited success this year, because the train has left the station and Moo U ain't on it.

 

[iafan44]

They aren’t meaningless this year. They will go undefeated into the playoffs. You are crazy if you don’t think that affects in season recruiting.

Isu is going to go undefeated?

 

[ExcellentBread]

This: https://247sports.com/longformartic...rams-ranked-by-nil-efforts-235181311/#2472518

The gap between the haves and have nots is going to get wider and wider. Believe it, or not......Iowa is a "have". The Misfit Toy Conference that Moo U currently plays in will probably only have one team in the CFP. B1G; 3-4. So your statement that ISU will have more play-off appearances is laughable. The Big 12 is in the transition to becoming a feeder conference for the Power 2 conferences. ISU should enjoy its limited success this year, because the train has left the station and Moo U ain't on it.

Are you not understanding that Iowa’s road through the playoffs is through the Haves and the road for ISU to the playoffs is through the Have-nots?

There is a gap between Iowa and the top of the B10. ISU is already in the top tier of the B12 and will have a shot at the playoffs every year.

 

[Old Uncle Teddy]

Never. The state is too small for two power programs. Zero sum competition means, like the Highlander, there can be only one. That one needs to be Iowa.

 

[HawkOptimist]

Iowa State has a cupcake schedule this year. Quite possibly the easiest of any Big 12 team. If they can’t finish with 10 wins, that’d be embarrassing.

 

[mrcyfan]

Iowa State has a cupcake schedule this year. Quite possibly the easiest of any Big 12 team. If they can’t finish with 10 wins, that’d be embarrassing.

Iowa has a cupcake schedule this year. Quite possibly the easiest of any Big 10 team. If they can’t finish with 10 wins, that’d be embarrassing.