Nobody hypocrites like a Republican hypocrite.
Nobody hypocrites like a Republican hypocrite.
Then vote for someone else in the primary!And that’s why it was done. Dems MUST have Trump on the ballot.
There are some on here claiming that the Democrats want Trump on the ballot and are doing everything they can to ensure that. The implication is that republicans don't want him on the ballot (they claim this despite the polling and other obvious evidence) so the natural question is - what are the republicans doing to keep him off the ballot.I don’t think it matters. No matter what I think his cult will write him in and ruin any chances the republicans have at winning the presidency.
If I’m the Dems get someone better than Biden in there for 2024 because of this and have another potential 8 years and someone that can run on experience of 2024-28.
But you're claiming the Democrats are trying to put him ON the ballot.Republicans can't do it without alienating his base, so we're letting you guys do the dirty work,.. Thanks for the assist...
NOOOOOO!!!! Democrats want a normal conservative on the ballot. Do you know of any?Democrats,.. They want him beaten to a pulp, but still on the ballot.
Rocket surgeon? How do I get that job?Funded their elections,.. rocket surgeon.
Are you being serious?And that’s why it was done. Dems MUST have Trump on the ballot.
That's for certain. It has elevated the "Democrats are trying to get Trump on the ballot" conspiracy theory though. Granted it's being touted by a couple of the biggest numpties but I suspect there are others out there repeating those right wing thoughts.I think this thread has pretty much put an end to the “I’m no fan of Trump” defense.
But you're claiming the Democrats are trying to put him ON the ballot.
You can't even keep your own crazy thinking straight.
It appears the Republicans want him on the ballot too.Democrats,.. They want him beaten to a pulp, but still on the ballot.
Yes, please, a vote against Trump is a vote against the Democrats.Then vote for someone else in the primary!
It appears the Republicans want him on the ballot too.
Where do you get your information from?Democrats do want him on the ballot, weak, but on the ballot,... Republicans are split between those who want Trump and those of us who know that Trump can't win,.. To be successful Republicans have to be united, and the clearest path involves Trump dropping out, and his followers joining the rest of the party and independents in support of an alternate Republican candidate...
All of the prominent ones do for sure.Right now I'd say that abut 35% of Republicans do...
Democrats do want him on the ballot
I hope you're not holding your breath.So post this then:
“I disagree with DeSantis and believe he was wrong to tweet that. I understand why he thinks that helps him politically but in my opinion it’s not a position he should take.”
All of the prominent ones do for sure.
Must’ve had some errands to run.I hope you're not holding your breath.
We’re going to just have to agree to disagree on this.Maybe I would understand your position better if you would define the arguments that are "more compelling" if he's acquitted.
What I'm referring to are the statements made my Republican politicians, media personalities or other influential conservatives. The standardized message of themes around banana republic, third world country, weaponizing the justice system, attacking political opponents, framing the DA as being "Soros" backed, election interference, etc.
I think those are nonsense, detached from reality and dripping with disrespect for the intended audience. Since there is no need for their arguments to be grounded to reality or supported by evidence or logic, the actual outcome of the case is irrelevant to their charges, they will stand regardless.
It's similar to conspiracy theories, you keep them broad and unspecific, that way no matter what a new piece of information indicates, you can maintain the theory by digging deeper or peeling another layer.
If Republicans were making arguments that were along the lines of: We don't know the exact nature of the charges, we believe no one is above the law, but if what is being reported regarding the nature of the allegations is true. That would make this an unprecedented and untested legal theory and that this context is an inappropriate venue to test it. We understand this came down from a grand jury and will monitor the proceedings.
Something like that, making the case that this isn't an appropriate context to test out a new legal theory is reasonable, and I think would be a vindicated one if the case is weak and Trump is acquitted.
But no Republicans seem to be making that argument, they all have gone fantastical and apocalyptical, which you seem to think upon acquittal would be "much more compelling". I think that's silly.
Well that would make sense. They’ve been given that opportunity time and time again. Seems as if they just can’t quit him.I think there are a lot of Republicans and independents waiting in the wings to throw support behind an alternate nominee,.. Practically anyone other than Trump could walk with this.
Well that would make sense. They’ve been given that opportunity time and time again. Seems as if they just can’t quit him.
So, the republicans are doing nothing to get him off the ballot. And by indicting him, maybe multiple times, the Democrats are trying to put him on the ballot. Got it.Democrats do want him on the ballot, weak, but on the ballot,... Republicans are split between those who want Trump and those of us who know that Trump can't win,.. To be successful Republicans have to be united, and the clearest path involves Trump dropping out, and his followers joining the rest of the party and independents in support of an alternate Republican candidate...
Who do you think could do this? And why do you think all the polls disagree with you?I think there are a lot of Republicans and independents waiting in the wings to throw support behind an alternate nominee,.. Practically anyone other than Trump could walk with this.
Do you think that's the goal of the Democrats in their effort to get him on the ballot?We’re going to just have to agree to disagree on this.
If you don’t see how an acquittal would strengthen the R/Trump “witch-hunt” argument I’m not sure what to tell you. Seems obvious to me.
Nothing until the RNC grows a pairThere are some on here claiming that the Democrats want Trump on the ballot and are doing everything they can to ensure that. The implication is that republicans don't want him on the ballot (they claim this despite the polling and other obvious evidence) so the natural question is - what are the republicans doing to keep him off the ballot.
So the rest of the republicans go along with supporting Trump instead of trying to promote alternatives, even though it's only 30-35% of republicans that are Trump supporters.50% of Republicans plus independents can definitely quit him, but doing it on their own just hands everything over to the Democrats,.. The only way this works is if Trump's base finally comes to the conclusion that Trump can't win a national election...
You live in FantasylandI think there are a lot of Republicans and independents waiting in the wings to throw support behind an alternate nominee,.. Practically anyone other than Trump could walk with this.
The answer is making excuses and blaming the Democrats for trying to convict Trump which the republicans are too weak and stupid to do.Nothing until the RNC grows a pair
Well hindsight is 20/20 I know. But generally speaking if a candidate has on their resume a willingness not to believe in elections. I tend to eliminate them from consideration. But we're different I now.I believe in weighing all of my options, that’s why you’re allowed to write in candidates.
The indictments are the "beating Trump up" part, with the key being the level of beating imposed,... Push too much, and Trump gets politically destroyed, to the point where even his base realizes that it's time to find an alternative...So, the republicans are doing nothing to get him off the ballot. And by indicting him, maybe multiple times, the Democrats are trying to put him on the ballot. Got it.
Forget convicting, they can’t even criticize him. They’re petrified, and somehow spin it into “It’s the Dems’ fault.”The answer is making excuses and blaming the Democrats for trying to convict Trump which the republicans are too weak and stupid to do.
Who do you think could do this? And why do you think all the polls disagree with you?
We’re going to just have to agree to disagree on this.
If you don’t see how an acquittal would strengthen the R/Trump “witch-hunt” argument I’m not sure what to tell you. Seems obvious to me.
The indictments are the "beating Trump up" part, with the key being the level of beating imposed,... Push too much, and Trump gets politically destroyed, to the point where even his base realizes that it's time to find an alternative...
Perhaps if you had contributed a million $ to the train like Soros did to Bragg's campaign it would be.The Soros stuff is so goddamn stupid.
I contributed to a PAC that gave U.S. Rep. Eric Sorensen cash last summer.
Does this mean that U.S. Rep Sorensen is a TORBEE BACKED PUPPET!!!!????
Shit, if I actually HAD that kind of power, that Moline-Chicago train would be running already!!!
I see you avoided the first question. LOLNormal people do not participate in polls....
I actually agree with you on this, though ultimately it falls under his base will never leave him, category.We’re going to just have to agree to disagree on this.
If you don’t see how an acquittal would strengthen the R/Trump “witch-hunt” argument I’m not sure what to tell you. Seems obvious to me.