This type of thinking perfectly describes trump and his followers. Just say whatever you want to achieve your objective. Facts and truth have absolutely no bearing on the matter.
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Ungodamned believable. Fraud, deceit and theft is OK with these MAGA freaks.
Are you truly this stupid?
Florida has laws in place that cap assessed value related to property tax increases.
Mar a Lago Fair Market Value:
$18-27M
Mar a Lago + Top Secret Documents Fair Market Value:
$1B-1.1B
+
There's a major difference between assessment value and fair market value. But,.... that property is zoned is manner preventing breaking it up into individual lots. 1.8 billion? Not even his Saudi headhunters would spring that kind of dough.
Measure a person's mentality on the depth of their arguments. Drag queens????
Obsess over LBGT and chances are there is a reason. Suppressed guilt. Hidden identity crisis.
Maybe scruddy is making subtle inferences. Afterall, the loudest threats towards homosexuality come from the closet.
Cushman was used for most of his appraisals. The bank when asking for a freaking loan doesn't just take your word for the appraisal, dumbass. So, when values were shown on the statements when working on the loans, the bank certainly did their OWN evaluation. Why are you so dumb?
You do realize property value for tax purposes is VASTLY different from FMV don't you? It's not a one or another. Judge Engoron is a complete buffoon. How the hell someone can value a business WELL BELOW the revenue generated per year is asinine and clear political stupidity. His reasoning based upon Trump's "stake" is retarded beyond belief. I will be there TOMORROW if Trump puts that business and property up for $18M.
And? No collusion and no involvement with Russia from Trump. GTFOH still believing this stupidity.
This is a libtarded viewpoint. Next
And? You're an idiot.
Already discussed this. How you come to this conclusion is mind blowing. They are two different valuations. Libtards are really very dumb.
Let's take a gander at a recent purchase of a property in LA by the Weeknd shall we? He paid $70M for the place in 2021. The prior owners paid $21M for it in 2015.
The Weeknd Paid $70M for a Bel-Air Mansion: Was It the Right Price?
Recently, the R&B musician known as The Weeknd has once again added to his property portfolio, snagging a Bel-Air mansion for almost $70 million.
www.realtor.com
What was the assessed value of that home for tax purposes from 2015-2021?
2015 - 22,646,291
2018 - 23,550,291
2019 - 26,141,881
2021 - 69,000,000
Los Angeles County Assessor Portal
Those dirty cocksuckers committed tax fraud before the Weeknd bought it! That home was worth WAYYY more than the assessed value! We should ask those prior owners if they got a loan from the bank anytime between 2015-2021 and what the appraised value was! I bet it wasn't the assessed value!
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Everything I said was facts and truth.
Agreed. I can get it for half that at the bankruptcy auction.
Who are you going to believe. Ted Cruz, Ryan, and Hawkedoff, or Trump’s own filings?
But Trump asserted that even the capped assessment was too high, right?
Do you think you can find another property where the assessed value is $27m and the owner asserts it’s worth $627m?Already discussed this. How you come to this conclusion is mind blowing. They are two different valuations. Libtards are really very dumb.
Let's take a gander at a recent purchase of a property in LA by the Weeknd shall we? He paid $70M for the place in 2021. The prior owners paid $21M for it in 2015.
The Weeknd Paid $70M for a Bel-Air Mansion: Was It the Right Price?
Recently, the R&B musician known as The Weeknd has once again added to his property portfolio, snagging a Bel-Air mansion for almost $70 million.
What was the assessed value of that home for tax purposes from 2015-2021?
2015 - 22,646,291
2018 - 23,550,291
2019 - 26,141,881
2021 - 69,000,000
Los Angeles County Assessor Portal
portal.assessor.lacounty.gov
Those dirty cocksuckers committed tax fraud before the Weeknd bought it! That home was worth WAYYY more than the assessed value! We should ask those prior owners if they got a loan from the bank anytime between 2015-2021 and what the appraised value was! I bet it wasn't the assessed value!
You are defending "someone" without any supporting evidence. How smart is this?
The court has made a legal decision. it has passed the test of muster as far as legal argument and now it is a matter of penalty and award.
You will be arguing with yourself as far as petty details or merits. Your Orange hero is a fraudulent deadbeat business putz, soon likely to be forbidden to conduct business in New York for the remainder of his life.
and we have folks on here that will eat this up, post X after X of clips from her media rounds.
So brave.
No they don't. There are laws that restrict the amount the valuation can be raised yearly for homesteaded properties. Try again dummy.
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Somehow I made it through this entire thread. Feels like a good time to summarize dismantle MAGA objections to this outcome.
tl;dr none of the MAGA arguments hold water - as usual.
tl;dr none of the MAGA arguments hold water - as usual.
- This trial was rigged - it wasn’t even a jury trial. No it wasn’t! Because his own legal team didn’t file the paperwork correctly. The buck stops with Trump on this one. He hired the genious attorneys that couldn’t even fill out the right paperwork. Side note: and this is the guy you want running the executive branch? Do you still believe he hires only the best people?
- The dumb judge said Mar a Lago is only worth 18 million No. He did NOT rule that the property is worth 18 million. He stated that there was a massive difference in estimates and that the defense did not bring a justification for their valuation. The defense’s star witness did not bring anything factual to support a higher valuation. Just because he thinks it could sell high doesn’t mean it will. Another thoughts and feelings argument from the “f*ck your feelings“ crowd. Oh yeah, Trump also doesn’t own 100% of Mar a Lago due to other members having an interest. Regardless of what the property could be sold for, Trump wasn’t getting all the proceeds. The defense should have brought facts to the table, unfortunately they couldn’t because the facts were lined up against the orange lunatic.
- Regardless, everyone knows the property is worth more than 18 million yeah it probably is. That didn’t stop Trump from disputing the valuation as too high for tax purposes when it was listed at $26 million. A far far far cry from hundreds of millions. Plus, this property is unique compared to the rest of Palm Beach real estate. It must be preserved, it cannot be subdivided or substantially improved. This is why the taxes are so low and this is why it cannot carry a comparable valuation to other real estate nearby. To use an extreme analogy: let’s say you have two parcels of land. Both are beachfront. One has a nuclear waste dump in the backyard and one does not. Can you use the valuation of the one that doesn’t as a comparable for the one that does? Nope.
- No one was harmed well except for the taxpayers who likely got shortchanged. Or perhaps the interest rates would have been higher and the banks would have profited more. Isn’t it also obvious that Trump has a history of bankruptcy? These properties have not yet been subject to that, but given his history they could be in the future. That would impact anyone from creditors, to vendors, to employees to club members. All of whom are listening to a tale of properties being more valuable than they are. If Trump goes under, all these stakeholders will be left with less than they were promised. And most importantly: a crime can be a crime without anyone getting hurt. Does the MAGA crowd want to do away with attempted robbery and attempted murder as crimes too? Trump broke the law, regardless of how much harm we might argue about.
- The banks employ people to do this kind of work yes. So what? We are a rules based society and people that break the rules should face consequences. Banks also use safes and security guards. Should we only blame the bank when someone robs it because their security didn’t prevent the thefts? Or does the bank robber have some culpability as well?
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Mar A Lago is not a "private home" and cannot be rezoned as such.Already discussed this. How you come to this conclusion is mind blowing. They are two different valuations. Libtards are really very dumb.
Let's take a gander at a recent purchase of a property in LA by the Weeknd shall we? He paid $70M for the place in 2021. The prior owners paid $21M for it in 2015.
The Weeknd Paid $70M for a Bel-Air Mansion: Was It the Right Price?
Recently, the R&B musician known as The Weeknd has once again added to his property portfolio, snagging a Bel-Air mansion for almost $70 million.
What was the assessed value of that home for tax purposes from 2015-2021?
2015 - 22,646,291
2018 - 23,550,291
2019 - 26,141,881
2021 - 69,000,000
Los Angeles County Assessor Portal
Those dirty cocksuckers committed tax fraud before the Weeknd bought it! That home was worth WAYYY more than the assessed value! We should ask those prior owners if they got a loan from the bank anytime between 2015-2021 and what the appraised value was! I bet it wasn't the assessed value!
The magats really go to tremendous lengths to spread untruths about their leader.
Says the guy wearing a mask.
Rezoning happens all the time for real estate. Wtf are you even talking about. If they sold it, they could go through a rezoning process. There is zero doubt the valuation the judge used was a deliberate bulkshit ruling by the judge. 18m is clown show bad and there is nothing a little Marxist asshole like you can do to gaslight people to thunk differently about it. People know the difference between tax valuation and fair market value. People can see what the neighborhood is selling for and where valuations sit
Just stop. Mar a Lago was placed on the National Register of Historic Places in 1972 and the mansion itself declared a National Historic Landmark in 1980. All before Trump purchased it in 1985. It cannot be rezoned or subdivided.
Trump has already tried several times to have it rezoned and has been denied each time.
I’ve noticed you are quick with the insults but a little slow on the follow up questions.
How do you reconcile Trump challenging the $27m property assessment then claiming it’s worth hundreds of millions more? You don’t appeal an assessment by saying “I disagree!” You have to provide objective arguments as to why the state/county has overvalued your property. Trump did that, then apparently turned around and conveniently forgot about those arguments when “valuing” the property in his loan apps. Seems like he’s just trying to have it both ways.
What am I missing?
Why is it I would take professional, legal, AND court-dictated decisions over your opinions, no matter who you are or whatever station you hold in life? The fact you have proven to be a right-winger incapable of sensible and logical decisions reinforces this observation.
Participating in a debate and introducing antagonistice terms and phrases such as and including "Marxism" is an indication of a shallow intellect. You, abby and others are slaves to the extremist media and political movement. If it weren't for echoing the talking points of the extremist's agenda "Marxism" would never have entered your gullible mind.
It is a relic of the past obsessed over by the fruitcakes you worship.
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You can call names like a spoiled child, but you haven't read the Mueller Report, so you have no credibility regarding it's findings.
Wow, that's a good one. Based on your posting it appears yoou suffer from donaldjtrump syndrome. Medical experts say there is no cure. Sorry, well not really.
Thank you for the time to post this. However, a fence post, a rock, and a stump will come up with some sort of BS to refute it.
