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Volume II Section IV, the obstruction of justice section that you have not read. It reads " If we had confidence after a thorough investigation of the facts that the president clearly did not commit obstruction of justice, we would so state. While this report does not conclude that the president committed a crime, it also does not exonerate him."

So before accusing someone of something that you know nothing about, which you absolutely do not by say I have not read the report, you may want to just stop while you're behind. I prefer to believe Bob Mueller, you prefer to believe the biggest liar and most corrupt president in our nation's history. But, I'm not surprised.
In this country the presumption is innocence. This entire statement ignores the presumption of innocence. No one has to prove they didn't commit a crime.
 
You missed the point. lol
No. I didn't miss the point at all. Mueller in his statement set aside the most important and basic principal of our justice system. The presumption of innocence. When he states he doesn't have the evidence to indicate guilt but then goes on to say he can't say Trump is innocent he is behaving in the manner of the Spanish inquisition. The most basic premise of innocent unless proven guilty is ignored. Especially with what we know now about the Steele Dossier as well as the behavior of the department of Justice and the fbi through their pursuit of Trump it makes Mueller comments even more disgusting and troublesome. He set out with the presumption of guilt and when he couldn't deliver he and his corrupt staff couldn't help themselves. There is zero chance they didn't uncover what we know about that entire sham. In fact his report underlines just how corrupt Mueller and company were and that they were engaging in what history will view as a soft coup.
 
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No. I didn't miss the point at all. Mueller in his statement set aside the most important and basic principal of our justice system. The presumption of innocence. When he states he doesn't have the evidence to indicate guilt but then goes on to say he can't say Trump is innocent he is behaving in the manner of the Spanish inquisition. The most basic premise of innocent unless proven guilty is ignored. Especially with what we know now about the Steele Dossier as well as the behavior of the department of Justice and the fbi through their pursuit of Trump it makes Mueller comments even more disgusting and troublesome. He set out with the presumption of guilt and when he couldn't deliver he and his corrupt staff couldn't help themselves. There is zero chance they didn't uncover what we know about that entire sham. In fact his report underlines just how corrupt Mueller and company were and that they were engaging in what history will view as a soft coup.

Wrong, Mueller never used the word "innocence" in the report. If you can find it, tell me what section of volume I or II. The reason and only reason he did not recommend indicting trump was because of the JD policy of not indicting a sitting president. End of Story.
 
It sounds like Trump is going to at least pretend he's attending the trial. He is dodging a deposition in a lawsuit brought by Michael Cohen, and his lawyers are saying Trump is not available.
 
Interesting nugget on TV today, I heard a writer who has covered Trump for decades mention that Judge Engoron ordered Trump to declare all investors in his NY properties. He said it’s long been speculated that Trump has personally borrowed heavily on his assets, and might not be the true owner anymore of some of the assets. The author speculated that Trump is going to refuse to comply to the order.
 
Interesting nugget on TV today, I heard a writer who has covered Trump for decades mention that Judge Engoron ordered Trump to declare all investors in his NY properties. He said it’s long been speculated that Trump has personally borrowed heavily on his assets, and might not be the true owner anymore of some of the assets. The author speculated that Trump is going to refuse to comply to the order.
Lock him up!
 
No. I didn't miss the point at all. Mueller in his statement set aside the most important and basic principal of our justice system. The presumption of innocence. When he states he doesn't have the evidence to indicate guilt but then goes on to say he can't say Trump is innocent he is behaving in the manner of the Spanish inquisition. The most basic premise of innocent unless proven guilty is ignored. Especially with what we know now about the Steele Dossier as well as the behavior of the department of Justice and the fbi through their pursuit of Trump it makes Mueller comments even more disgusting and troublesome. He set out with the presumption of guilt and when he couldn't deliver he and his corrupt staff couldn't help themselves. There is zero chance they didn't uncover what we know about that entire sham. In fact his report underlines just how corrupt Mueller and company were and that they were engaging in what history will view as a soft coup.

You prove to be ignorant and uniformed in every political discussion, which is the pattern of right wingnuts.

There was no "guilt" since the Orange Turd's personal attorney, AG Barr, stipulated no criminal charges.in the charter. You wingers have latched on the Steele Dossier as if it's the Holy Grail. It was a starting point, a piece of evidence. Like mindless fools you flounder in baseless diatribes echoing right-wing media nonsense.

Mueller delivered a report that pleased no one, but it was determined Barr prevented the possibility of success. You nuts go goo goo over the fact the FBI was found to have done something, can anyone remember after a 4 year investigation? JFC.

The Senate Intelligence Commitee released a report confirming this. This is a Republican majority committee.

Thehttps://www.intelligence.senate.gov/press/senate-intel-releases-election-security-findings-first-volume-bipartisan-russia-report#:~:text=The%20Russian%20government%20directed%20extensive,carried%20into%20at%20least%202017. Senate
 
I hear word on the street is that Lying Donnie Sexual Abuser dropped the case because he can no longer afford his attorneys in that case. Sounds right to me, given the four major indictments he is facing... and must have legal representation for those. So he is basically bailing on everything else that he can no longer afford. So much for the big rich man. Fake and failure.
 
I hear word on the street is that Lying Donnie Sexual Abuser dropped the case because he can no longer afford his attorneys in that case. Sounds right to me, given the four major indictments he is facing... and must have legal representation for those. So he is basically bailing on everything else that he can no longer afford. So much for the big rich man. Fake and failure.
He can't drop this case, the state of NY brought it against Trump Org. And, suckers and losers are paying Trump's legal bills at this point. He has stopped appearing because the judge told him to STFU, and because his own employees were telling the world he isn't really, really rich. It was a sham from the start.
 
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The case that I'm talking about that he dropped was his suit against Michael Cohen. He dropped that.
 
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Trump took time out of his busy day of campaigning to say Stormy Daniels knows him well, but not really, railed against Rosie O’Donnell, and totally made it clear he is super rich no matter what the FAILING FORBES says.
Allen Weisselberg testifies tomorrow.
 
Oh... Stormy knows him very well... you might even say ' Up close and personal '.
 
Interesting note I read this morning, Weisselberg is being paid $2 million in severance spread out over 2 years after leaving Trump Org. That dollar amount closely matches the amount of money in unpaid taxes and fines Weisselberg was forced to pay after going to jail. I know that I don't know as much as some of the really good business people here, but is it normal to pay a generous severance package to someone who went to jail for committing financial crimes while in your employ?
 
Nothing within the corrupt Trump organization is normal. They break every rule for their benefit, and now they're being held accountable for it.
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Angry and bitter? That a guy was elected POTUS based largely on his claim of being a great businessman was always a lie and he conned millions of people into believing it and they still believe it?

Gee, what's there to be angry and bitter about?
Gee it's not like he shot someone on fifth Ave. Or anything,did he?
 
You are defending "someone" without any supporting evidence. How smart is this?

The court has made a legal decision. it has passed the test of muster as far as legal argument and now it is a matter of penalty and award.

You will be arguing with yourself as far as petty details or merits. Your Orange hero is a fraudulent deadbeat business putz, soon likely to be forbidden to conduct business in New York for the remainder of his life.
It's what the maga does.
 
Wrong, Mueller never used the word "innocence" in the report. If you can find it, tell me what section of volume I or II. The reason and only reason he did not recommend indicting trump was because of the JD policy of not indicting a sitting president. End of Story.
You people are unreal. If the government doesn't have evidence of guilt people are presumed innocent. Mueller knows this and manipulated his report to speak bulkshit about not being able to declare Trump innocent. His job isn't and never was to decide innocence because in our country innocence is presumed
 
Who is going to break it to Hawkedoff that Trump's own controller, Jeffrey McConney, testified under oath today that he and Allen Weisselberg lied in their valuation of Mar A Lago? Weisselberg testifies on Tuesday when the trial resumes. Expect him to confirm this, or go to prison for perjury.
https://apnews.com/article/donald-t...aud-new-york-77f3691ad7fa73ea008f058ae6f772d6
Such a laughable joke. Nothing they said matters at all. Why haven't the banks testified?
 
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Who is going to break it to Hawkedoff that Trump's own controller, Jeffrey McConney, testified under oath today that he and Allen Weisselberg lied in their valuation of Mar A Lago? Weisselberg testifies on Tuesday when the trial resumes. Expect him to confirm this, or go to prison for perjury.
https://apnews.com/article/donald-t...aud-new-york-77f3691ad7fa73ea008f058ae6f772d6
That's not anywhere near what he said nor what your article says. "Lied"

"Before the appellate action, former Trump Organization controller Jeffrey McConney testified at the trial Friday that values he assigned to Trump’s Mar-a-Lago resort in Florida — as much as $739 million in 2018 — were based on the false premise that it could be sold as a private residence. Such use is prohibited by Trump’s 2002 agreement with the National Trust for Historic Preservation.

“Were you aware that Mr. Trump had deeded away his right to use the property for any other purpose than a social club?” state lawyer Andrew Amer asked.

“I was not aware,” said McConney, who’s also a defendant in this case."

And who in the right mind would value a property on whether or not Trump could turn them into private residences versus the person actually buying the property doing it? There's a case to be made it's actually worth more the way it is anyway. You libtards just keep not understanding this case. Personal financial statements follow GAAP ASC 274 which allows for many different valuation methods and gives considerable latitude for valuation purposes. On top of this, the banks NEVER used his statements to approve the loans and testified as such. This case is pure horseshit along with the NY law they are using to charge him with.
 
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