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Trump slaps retaliatory measures on Colombia after it turns away deportation flights

Bullshit…. Several of “the tourists” were arrested for weapon possession at the Capital.
Who? And, did they use those weapons during this attempted "insurrection"? Did they go to jail? Please tell me.

Actually don't bother. I will give the answer you already know. No rioter on that day pulled, displayed or used a firearm during the riot. They may have been carrying and should have been arrested if they were carrying illegally.........which they were.

But, no charges for Inssurection or attempted murder were give to any of the rioters on that day.
 
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There are literally millions of people, far more than came here during Biden’s presidency who are here illegally-oddly enough, quite a few under trump as well.

And they have in fact looked into this on numerous occasions. It’s been well documented that illegals are less prone to commit crimes than the average American.

Biden averaged a million deportations per year btw.
Many on here think because they keep a low profile and not draw attention to themselves that they don’t commit crimes, besides entering illegally, possibly ripping off identities, paying the cartels, driving illegally, harboring other illegals.
 
They might, they might think they are properly vetted too. Doesn’t change the fact that immigrants, even though just want a better life, are or were in the wrong.
Employers don’t think they are vetted enough. Just want plausible deniability. Profitability is number one. Employers are going to use the system available to them. Similar to many companies overlook vendors that use child labor or slavery in other countries. Until we fine the crap out of them or boycott them. Companies continue the practice.
As for immigrants being in the wrong their sin was being born in the wrong country in the wrong decade. But things change. Only takes one immigrant with bad intentions to get ahold of a truck and plow it through a crowd.
 
Many on here think because they keep a low profile and not draw attention to themselves that they don’t commit crimes, besides entering illegally, possibly ripping off identities, paying the cartels, driving illegally, harboring other illegals.
And there probably are I won’t argue that. Again, deport them as you find them.

Would you concede that many do not commit additional crimes once here?
 
Please detail ANYONE who was caught with a firearm in the J6 crowd. If I missed that somewhere, then they of course should have...and probably were jailed. Can you give me the names?
No and I'm not going to look. But they were jailed then pardoned. But just a quick look Lonnie Coffman of Alabama was armed to the hilt. Several people died from the attack.
 
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Who? And, did they use those weapons during this attempted "insurrection"? Did they go to jail? Please tell me.

Actually don't bother. I will give the answer you already know. No rioter on that day pulled, displayed or used a firearm during the riot. They may have been carrying and should have been arrested if they were carrying illegally.........which they were.

But, no charges for Inssurection or attempted murder were give to any of the rioters on that day.
G O O G L E ! ! ! Or aren't you smart enough to search for yourself? 🤣
 
I’m guessing you’re smart enough to know that.
What's your deal? You were proven wrong. accept you were wrong. Trump screwed his very first deportations up. Not sure why you're ruining your own image trying to protect his incompetence?
 
They're not. Trump is the one playing games. He returned them in shackles on military planes. All he had to do was return them twice weekly, like Biden did, like regular humans beings, and we wouldn't be here.

But, no, Trump is a fvck up who can't help himself.
You want to ride with criminals who aren’t shackeled so you can be Johnny 23’d?
 
What's your deal? You were proven wrong. accept you were wrong. Trump screwed his very first deportations up. Not sure why you're ruining your own image trying to protect his incompetence?
He got them out, he got them to take them. It’s what mostly mattered. That country needs us more than we need them.
 
Biden did it for four straight years. If there was a problem, idiots like you would have been screaming about it by now.
Pretty sure the big guy didn’t round up the type of criminals and numbers that DT just did. But go ahead and keep crying about it so you can hear yourself.
 
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Pretty sure the big guy didn’t round up the type of criminals and numbers that DT just did. But go ahead and keep crying about it so you can hear yourself.
Sure seems like you're the one crying here. Every president before Trump didn't have a problem. So why is Donny struggling so much?
 
A plane full of deported people who are being returned to their country against their wishes, many of whom are convicted of violent crimes...and the American left says "Why are you using shackles?"

Unbelievable...

What fools!
 
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You do understand that seditious conspiracy is NOT the same as insurrection.

And what firearms were used in this attempted, pre planned insurrection on J6? Now, let me again be clear, I have never said J6 was not serious or that no one should have been arrested and held accountable. People were arrested and jailed for more than 4 years for those terrible acts.

Now, please identify ANYONE from the riots in Minneapolis alone who spent 4 years in jail for that horrific event. As per my info, and in which you agree, those thousands you speak of were charged with misdemeanors and then most charges dropped.
I do. This is the definition of seditious conspiracy. I think this is a serious charge. I will let others determine if they think this is basically just rioting or something more serious.

Under 18 U.S.C. § 2384, “seditious conspiracy” occurs when two or more persons:

conspire to overthrow, put down, or to destroy by force the Government of the United States, or to levy war against them, or to oppose by force the authority thereof, or by force to prevent, hinder, or delay the execution of any law of the United States, or by force to seize, take, or possess any property of the United States contrary to the authority thereof.


Matthew Rupert was sentenced to 9 years in prison, Brendan Wolfe was sentenced to 41 months not quite 4 years. A lot of people were in the 2-3 year range.

In any case I think it is silly logic to say welp this criminal event happened and I don't think enough people were charged so we shouldn't charge people in another event. A lot of what gets charged is determined by what case the state can make. These cases are easy to make as evidenced by the high plea/conviction rate. A lot of the more heinous acts in the Minneapolis riots were not as well documented.
 
A plane full of deported people who are being returned to their country against their wishes, many of whom are convicted of violent crimes...and the American left says "Why are you using shackles?"

Unbelievable...

What fools!
Exactly. But these fools just don’t get it and they never will. Common sense but they ain’t got one.
 
Grain markets down today as Columbia is our 3rd biggest corn market.
They are already talking about more welfare payouts to farmers to try to buffer them from trade war damages.
Trump handed out 32 billion in that program after he started the trade war with China his last term

Not sure Trump will care about farm vote anymore, tho.

Fixed that for you
 
Haven’t heard of issues regarding these flights, have you? I’m sure if any were violent offenders they either get transport separately or have different rules regarding them.

Sounds right,.. The different rules now require restraints.
 
Well our legal system operates on the principle of innocent until proven guilty. So I would disagree if you’re saying we should just assume the worst.
I’m going to assume that most undocumented immigrants in the US have family that have broken, or continued to break the law, yes.
 
I’m going to assume that most undocumented immigrants in the US have family that have broken, or continued to break the law, yes.
By this logic one could argue that most DOCUMENTED immigrants have family that have broke or continued to break the law, and same for the rest of us honestly.

You’re painting with a broad brush and the harm that would be done when you’re wrong would be huge.
 
By this logic one could argue that most DOCUMENTED immigrants have family that have broke or continued to break the law, and same for the rest of us honestly.

You’re painting with a broad brush and the harm that would be done when you’re wrong would be huge.
If they broke the law they gotta pay. I hope you understand that if they are documented, it doesn’t mean they are legally documented. See Mollie Tibbetts murderer.
 
No and I'm not going to look. But they were jailed then pardoned. But just a quick look Lonnie Coffman of Alabama was armed to the hilt. Several people died from the attack.
Of course you won't look.

On Jan 6th, 4 people in the crowd died.

Again, which of the rioters were charged with murder? So, one person had a stash in his truck and we are supposed to believe that makes Jan 6th a coordinated insurrection? Why don't you look up the actual officers who were murdered during the riots of 2020.....I don't think you will.
 
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G O O G L E ! ! ! Or aren't you smart enough to search for yourself? 🤣
Please, between the two of us, I have actually supplied proof of what I have said in this thread.....but guess now I know that you don't know how to use GOOGLE. :rolleyes:
 
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If they broke the law they gotta pay. I hope you understand that if they are documented, it doesn’t mean they are legally documented. See Mollie Tibbetts murderer.
Talk about cherry picking.

Again, let’s focus on the truly serious offenders. We’ve got more important things to get done than to round up whole families for whom the only thing they did wrong was trespassing.
 
I do. This is the definition of seditious conspiracy. I think this is a serious charge. I will let others determine if they think this is basically just rioting or something more serious.

Under 18 U.S.C. § 2384, “seditious conspiracy” occurs when two or more persons:

conspire to overthrow, put down, or to destroy by force the Government of the United States, or to levy war against them, or to oppose by force the authority thereof, or by force to prevent, hinder, or delay the execution of any law of the United States, or by force to seize, take, or possess any property of the United States contrary to the authority thereof.


Matthew Rupert was sentenced to 9 years in prison, Brendan Wolfe was sentenced to 41 months not quite 4 years. A lot of people were in the 2-3 year range.

In any case I think it is silly logic to say welp this criminal event happened and I don't think enough people were charged so we shouldn't charge people in another event. A lot of what gets charged is determined by what case the state can make. These cases are easy to make as evidenced by the high plea/conviction rate. A lot of the more heinous acts in the Minneapolis riots were not as well documented.
First, a few people being charged with seditious conspiracy does not an insurrection make when you have a crowd of 10,000.

Second, you said "A lot of the more heinous acts in the Minneapolis riots were not as well documented.". This is completely false. They DID have the documentation to charge hundreds of people with the more serious crimes. The travisty is that they decided to charge them with misdemeanors and then later dropped the charges.
 
Talk about cherry picking.

Again, let’s focus on the truly serious offenders. We’ve got more important things to get done than to round up whole families for whom the only thing they did wrong was trespassing.
I agree violent offenders gotta go first. You would think differently if your life was jeopardized by someone stealing your identity.
 
And again, not defending that.

But that’s not happening in every instance.
From 2019, Mississippi

 
We have different opinions.
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