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Trump slaps retaliatory measures on Colombia after it turns away deportation flights

Again. We didn't actually get anything out of this. Trump shit on the stock market and bred distrust in our ability to be good faith trade partners all so that we can use our own planes to drop these people off back home?

We were already deporting these people. Biden deported some 500 planes back to Colombia. Yet here is Trump, bragging he did a few planes. Dons taking you for a ride.
If we were already sending planes to Columbia without a problem then why did Columbia all of a sudden not allow it
 
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Oh yeah, you care more about cells than actual human beings walking around. Homeless kids, for example. Any foster children yet?
Your big problem is you are associating these deportations as people who are just here to work, but by 99.9 % of all accounts these deportations are for people who have been arrested and are not good people. When you refuse to acknowledge that then it looks like you are defending rapists, child predators, thief’s etc and it makes you look pretty pathetic
 
Your big problem is you are associating these deportations as people who are just here to work, but by 99.9 % of all accounts these deportations are for people who have been arrested and are not good people. When you refuse to acknowledge that then it looks like you are defending rapists, child predators, thief’s etc and it makes you look pretty pathetic
Be better. There's a rapist in the White House. You're 99.9% is pathetic. Not good people? So you're saying that all these brown people, except for a handful, are bad people crossing our border? Not desperate human beings hoping for the dream of America? I swear to God with you guys. Bad Christians.

 
Be better. There's a rapist in the White House. You're 99.9% is pathetic. Not good people? So you're saying that all these brown people, except for a handful, are bad people crossing our border? Not desperate human beings hoping for the dream of America? I swear to God with you guys. Bad Christians.

Again these particular deportations have CRIMINAL RECORDS, why is this so hard for you to grasp
 
If we were already sending planes to Columbia without a problem then why did Columbia all of a sudden not allow it
It appears that at least partly it was because Trump used military planes instead of civilian ones.

Aside from optics, I admittedly don’t understand why that necessarily matters here. Maybe there’d been a quiet agreement that the USA wouldn’t do so, and either trumps people didn’t care or they didn’t know?
 
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Be better. There's a rapist in the White House. You're 99.9% is pathetic. Not good people? So you're saying that all these brown people, except for a handful, are bad people crossing our border? Not desperate human beings hoping for the dream of America? I swear to God with you guys. Bad Christians.

That's not what he said. He was talking about the people on the plane being deported. He wasn't talking about all these brown people crossing the border. Not to mention you are the one once again injecting race. I doubt if they like being called brown people.
 
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Some were against it, some were not. Peltier I don't have the biggest problem with - he's turning 80, in ill health and not expected to be long for this world, and has been serving his sentence since the 70s. From what I read he's basically under house arrest as well for the rest of his life, which isn't expected to be that long. I don't have a huge issue with letting an old man die with a little dignity at home, vs the notoriously poor health treatment provided by prisons.

The second guy I have never heard of, so I can't speak to that.

The J6ers meanwhile should still be in prison, or at the very least the ones who were convicted of assaulting police on that day - would you agree to that?
Honestly, I have seen people with much worse attacks on police and damage to property get less or no jail time.

Please research the attacks and riots in Minneapolis in 2020. It is a travisty. Just for context here is a little info from Police Magazine:

More than 2,035 law enforcement officers were injured at the protests and riots during the time frame studied. Officers were commonly assaulted with commercial fireworks, impact weapons, and lasers targeting their eyes. Nearly half of the respondents said rioters had used incendiary devices. MCCA reports that some rioters used the tactic of throwing firebombs behind the officers so that they could be trapped between barriers built by the mob and the flames. A little more than half of reporting jurisdictions said they had encountered firearms during the protests and riots.

One agency reported that four of their officers were shot by rioters. MCCA member agencies arrested 16,241 protesters and rioters from May 25 to July 31. Nearly 17% of these arrests were for felonies and 7% of the total involved violence. Many of the cases were quickly dismissed, which may explain why 52% of the reporting agencies said they arrested the same people twice for “protest-related crimes.”


This is just wrong on so many levels. These people should have spent AT LEAST 4 years in jail. Lets not forget how many small businesses were detroyed and those lives changed forever by those rioters.
 
Honestly, I have seen people with much worse attacks on police and damage to property get less or no jail time.
Did those people attack the US Capitol in an attempt to overturn the results of an election?

And stop with the Minneapolis riots. I’ve never defended that violence and I never will. They are not remotely the same as what the J6ers did.
 
It’s in their best interests. The flow of migrants is a hinderance to them as well. Honestly it’s in North America’s best interests. If we had a program similar to the EU for employment purposes a lot of our immigration issues would lessen.
The answer might be why are these folks from central and South America coming to our southern border?
Is there some cost effective foreign aid to these countries we can provide that might keep their people in their homelands? Is that a route we should explore?
Why would people pack up and leave their homeland and travel thousands of miles to a foreign country and risk a new start in a place that really doesn’t want them….except to exploit them?
 
1500 people released early for beating the shit out of cops with bear mace, clubs, and other weapons early. All because they did it in Trump’s name. Couple of them got 20 year sentences pardoned. Government proved they organized their fellow Proud Boys & Oathkeepers for a violent siege. That group of people didn’t just get caught up in it and spontaneously riot. Those pardons were wrong. Don’t care about the whataboutism.
One drug dealer released early because he was a white collar drug dealer. Set up a dark website for the exchange of any ellicit substance possible. World wide mind you. Several of which directly contributed to the OD of minors. He also attempted 5 different instances of hiring a hitman. Essentially got out because he’s rich. Similar to Seth Rich pardon under Bill Clinton.
Bottom line I don’t trust Miller his history before getting into Trump’s orbit shows how big of a zealot he is.
Sorry, but you can say you don't care about "whataboutism", but that is just another way of saying you want to ignore the obvious hypocrisy that has existed. As posted above in another response:
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Please research the attacks and riots in Minneapolis in 2020. It is a travisty. Just for context here is a little info from Police Magazine:

More than 2,035 law enforcement officers were injured at the protests and riots during the time frame studied. Officers were commonly assaulted with commercial fireworks, impact weapons, and lasers targeting their eyes. Nearly half of the respondents said rioters had used incendiary devices. MCCA reports that some rioters used the tactic of throwing firebombs behind the officers so that they could be trapped between barriers built by the mob and the flames. A little more than half of reporting jurisdictions said they had encountered firearms during the protests and riots.

One agency reported that four of their officers were shot by rioters. MCCA member agencies arrested 16,241 protesters and rioters from May 25 to July 31. Nearly 17% of these arrests were for felonies and 7% of the total involved violence. Many of the cases were quickly dismissed, which may explain why 52% of the reporting agencies said they arrested the same people twice for “protest-related crimes.”
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Now, I am just glad BOTH President Trump and Biden kept their words about not pardoning their families like promised......oh wait, only one of them pulled that crap.

And again, what you claimed about Miller was proven false, just like the Libs lies about what happened at the Chicago schools.

The positive is that the American people are no longer blind to the Lib Dems and their media's attempt to gaslight them wit lies.
 
The answer might be why are these folks from central and South America coming to our southern border?
Is there some cost effective foreign aid to these countries we can provide that might keep their people in their homelands? Is that a route we should explore?
Why would people pack up and leave their homeland and travel thousands of miles to a foreign country and risk a new start in a place that really doesn’t want them….except to exploit them?
Maybe the biggest thing we could/should do to help would be to help find ways to combat the gangs/cartels. Do what we can to foster political stability to help create situations where companies would find better opportunities for investments.

There’s no quick or easy solution unfortunately.
 
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Sorry, but you can say you don't care about "whataboutism", but that is just another way of saying you want to ignore the obvious hypocrisy that has existed. As posted above in another response:
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Please research the attacks and riots in Minneapolis in 2020. It is a travisty. Just for context here is a little info from Police Magazine:

More than 2,035 law enforcement officers were injured at the protests and riots during the time frame studied. Officers were commonly assaulted with commercial fireworks, impact weapons, and lasers targeting their eyes. Nearly half of the respondents said rioters had used incendiary devices. MCCA reports that some rioters used the tactic of throwing firebombs behind the officers so that they could be trapped between barriers built by the mob and the flames. A little more than half of reporting jurisdictions said they had encountered firearms during the protests and riots.

One agency reported that four of their officers were shot by rioters. MCCA member agencies arrested 16,241 protesters and rioters from May 25 to July 31. Nearly 17% of these arrests were for felonies and 7% of the total involved violence. Many of the cases were quickly dismissed, which may explain why 52% of the reporting agencies said they arrested the same people twice for “protest-related crimes.”
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Now, I am just glad BOTH President Trump and Biden kept their words about not pardoning their families like promised......oh wait, only one of them pulled that crap.

And again, what you claimed about Miller was proven false, just like the Libs lies about what happened at the Chicago schools.

The positive is that the American people are no longer blind to the Lib Dems and their media's attempt to gaslight them wit lies.
Doubling down on a false equivalency. Kudos.
 
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Did those people attack the US Capitol in an attempt to overturn the results of an election?

And stop with the Minneapolis riots. I’ve never defended that violence and I never will. They are not remotely the same as what the J6ers did.

The summer of 2020 was much more violent, destructive and deadly. And it's not even close.
 
The summer of 2020 was much more violent, destructive and deadly. And it's not even close.

Please explain.........otherwise my points all stand. 😂
One was an assault on buildings and people.

The other was an assault on our democratic traditions.

one of these is far worse than the other. And it’s not the first one. We’ve seen riots, vandalism and violence before, and will again. We’ve never seen people try to violently overturn the results of an election before.
 
Zero to do with that. Support whoever you want.

You stated you don't believe anyone who supports Trump. You have no business being a teacher.
Sure. WHY should I believe Trump FOLLOWERS? What are they right about? They aren't in reality. Oh, and screw you for bringing my job into it.
 
One was an assault on buildings and people.

The other was an assault on our democratic traditions.

one of these is far worse than the other. And it’s not the first one. We’ve seen riots, vandalism and violence before, and will again. We’ve never seen people try to violently overturn the results of an election before.
MAGAts are very “transactionary” in this debate. Of course your are more correct here sober than Torbado but you will never convince him of his folly or faulty reasoning.
 
That's not what he said. He was talking about the people on the plane being deported. He wasn't talking about all these brown people crossing the border. Not to mention you are the one once again injecting race. I doubt if they like being called brown people.
Bull. Shit. He's wrong, just like you are here. I love it when you guys who support clear racism try to project onto the rest of us. Lame.
 
One was an assault on buildings and people.

The other was an assault on our democratic traditions.

one of these is far worse than the other. And it’s not the first one. We’ve seen riots, vandalism and violence before, and will again. We’ve never seen people try to violently overturn the results of an election before.
Sorry, but point of fact: As of now, no individuals involved in the January 6th, 2021, Capitol attack have been charged with "insurrection" under U.S. federal law.

So, as bad as you and your fellow libs want to continue to gaslight about Jan 6th.....facts matter. Does that mean I am happy about January 6th? Heck no! It should NEVER have happened. And, people HAVE done 4 years of jail time for that riot.

But, that fact remains that the riots during 2020 had violent people, with ACTUAL weapons, attacking police AND citizens while destoying whole city blocks. And, people have not been held accountable.
 
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Sorry, but point of fact: As of now, no individuals involved in the January 6th, 2021, Capitol attack have been charged with "insurrection" under U.S. federal law.

So, as bad as you and your fellow libs want to continue to gaslight about Jan 6th.....facts matter. Does that mean I am happy about January 6th? Heck no! It should NEVER have happened. And, people HAVE done 4 years of jail time for that riot.

But, that fact remains that the riots during 2020 had violent people, with ACTUAL weapons, attacking police AND citizens while destoying whole city blocks. And, people have not been held accountable.
Did the J6ers attempt to halt the certification of the 2020 election? Yes or no.
 
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Bull. Shit. He's wrong, just like you are here. I love it when you guys who support clear racism try to project onto the rest of us. Lame.
Do you know me personally? Do you know who my family is or my friends are? What evidence do you have that I am racist, as far as I can tell you misinterpret people’s posts and make giant assumptions
 
Link, please? That's not what I am finding online, that these are hardened criminals. I do see things such as this that are refuting your claims...

I will concede that illegal immigrants who don’t have criminal records are being deported but I think they are collateral damage from going after the criminals
 
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Did those people attack the US Capitol in an attempt to overturn the results of an election?

And stop with the Minneapolis riots. I’ve never defended that violence and I never will. They are not remotely the same as what the J6ers did.
Sorry, but you can deflect all you want, the gaslighting will not work anymore.

The facts do not bear out what you want. The Capital riot....was just that a riot. The violence that occured during 2020 was beyond the scale that ever occured on J6. And I am NOT defending J6ers. They went to jail, just as they should have.
 
MAGAts are very “transactionary” in this debate. Of course your are more correct here sober than Torbado but you will never convince him of his folly or faulty reasoning.
Stay out of this moron. This is above you and your lame 86,881 post. Better yet, get some sleep. 😂
 
Sorry, but you can deflect all you want, the gaslighting will not work anymore.

The facts do not bear out what you want. The Capital riot....was just that a riot. The violence that occured during 2020 was beyond the scale that ever occured on J6. And I am NOT defending J6ers. They went to jail, just as they should have.
I couldn’t disagree with you more here. You are talking like people just showed up randomly one day and rioted out of the blue.
 
Sorry, but you can deflect all you want, the gaslighting will not work anymore.

The facts do not bear out what you want. The Capital riot....was just that a riot. The violence that occured during 2020 was beyond the scale that ever occured on J6. And I am NOT defending J6ers. They went to jail, just as they should have.
They were trying to stop the certification of the election.
 
They were trying to stop the certification of the election.
I will concede that some of the idiots would have liked to stop the certification....

But, that was a riot with no firearms at all in that crowd, and the facts prove that out. If you don't think the Biden DOJ would have not slapped people with the insurrection charge if they could....then you are not thinking straight.
 
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Sorry, but point of fact: As of now, no individuals involved in the January 6th, 2021, Capitol attack have been charged with "insurrection" under U.S. federal law.

So, as bad as you and your fellow libs want to continue to gaslight about Jan 6th.....facts matter. Does that mean I am happy about January 6th? Heck no! It should NEVER have happened. And, people HAVE done 4 years of jail time for that riot.

But, that fact remains that the riots during 2020 had violent people, with ACTUAL weapons, attacking police AND citizens while destoying whole city blocks. And, people have not been held accountable.
A number of individuals were charged with seditious conspiracy to which they plead guilty or were convicted.

Oath Keeper Joshua James pleaded guilty to seditious conspiracy, admitting in his plea that "from November 2020 through January 2021, he conspired with other Oath Keeper members and affiliates to use force to prevent, hinder and delay the execution of the laws of the United States governing the transfer of presidential power."[1

Suggesting that that because they weren't charged with insurrection that this proves that the crimes weren't that serious and there was no organized plot is engaging in the same gas lighting you accuse others of. We also have actual violent people, weapons, and attacking of police officers on Jan 6th this is not a distinction between the events

The federal charges around Jan 6th have been easy to pursue because the event was so well documented. Not just by the news but by the clowns own phones and social media posts. Nearly 70% of the cases have been plead guilty. Identifying the parties involved in the BLM arsons and violence has been more difficult.

Many people were in fact charged in the BLM riots. Thousands in fact. Most of these were misdemeanors similar to the Jan 6th defendants In any case I don't think a remedy to the lack of charges in one incident is to not charge or to wl
 
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