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Tulsi Gabbard doing the Kremlin's work...

Maybe you could quote the part where she lied in bold? I didn’t see it there.
I’m trying to find what she stated that was a lie.
Not someone else’s characterization of what she said.
I’m asking if you can quote the lie.
Can you?

The part where she suggests the labs and american funding is "being covered up"

Do i need to translate it to Russian for you first?
 
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Maybe you could quote the part where she lied in bold? I didn’t see it there.
I’m trying to find what she stated that was a lie.
Not someone else’s characterization of what she said.
I’m asking if you can quote the lie.
Can you?


When your people compromise targets, how do they become groomed?

Is there like a 4 week training program? Is there like a grooming coach or is there a team of russians? how does it work?

When did they first approach you? How old were you? How did they make contact? I have so many questions.
 
Come on Jan.

Russia is the only one invading and waging war. Russia is the belligerent. There is only one party responsible for this war. No one and no other country. Russia alone. Period.
No shit. Russia is the aggressor and is 100% totally responsible for all of this. But what that person said Tulsi implied is flat out stupid. When negotiations need to take place, you think that means Russia should negotiate with itself? You know others are going to have to get involved,

There’s an awful lot of stupid floating around here.
 
No shit. Russia is the aggressor and is 100% totally responsible for all of this. But what that person said Tulsi implied is flat out stupid. When negotiations need to take place, you think that means Russia should negotiate with itself? You know others are going to have to get involved,

There’s an awful lot of stupid floating around here.

This is precisely why it is so dumb that Tulsi said all these parties need to get together to create a ceasefire. Don't you think? Russia needs to cease war operations and leave the country. Then take responsibility for all the death and destruction they have caused.

No equivocating.
No blame sharing.
 
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This is precisely why it is so dumb that Tulsi said all these parties need to get together to create a ceasefire. Don't you think? Russia needs to cease war operations and leave the country. Then take responsibility for all the death and destruction they have caused.

No equivocating.
No blame sharing.

My gawd you’re not even living in reality. I guarantee Tulsi knows and believes Russia is 100% at fault. She is also wise enough to know, unlike you and the idiot that posted what they did, that Russia is not going to stop.

So it’s going to take the world to put pressure on and get Russia to negotiate a cease fire.

From what I’ve seen of you, you’re smarter than this. Quit going down this pathetic rabbit hole.
 
My gawd you’re not even living in reality. I guarantee Tulsi knows and believes Russia is 100% at fault. She is also wise enough to know, unlike you and the idiot that posted what they did, that Russia is not going to stop.

So it’s going to take the world to put pressure on and get Russia to negotiate a cease fire.

From what I’ve seen of you, you’re smarter than this. Quit going down this pathetic rabbit hole.
Of course the kid @RileyHawk chimes in with his laughter. Leave this to the grownups.
 
The part where she suggests the labs and american funding is "being covered up"

We know that the initial ‘fact checks’ were simply wrong with regard to US funding, right?
We agree on that, don’t we?

But what you put in quotes isn’t a quote of Tulsi. I wanted to see what was actually said, and how it was being interpreted.

The closest I find to what you put in quotes is from her video on Twitter:

“Instead of covering this up, the Biden-Harris administration needs to work Russia, Ukraine, NATO, the UN to immediately implement a ceasefire for all military action in the vicinity of these labs until they’re secured and these pathogens are destroyed.”

That’s ‘the lie’?
That she thinks instead of dissembling about how the labs are US funded but not ‘US run’ we should focus on containing and destroying any dangers therein?

I thought Nuland’s response was unequivocal regarding the dangers present in those labs, surely that’s not the point of contention.

So what is ‘the lie’, again?
 
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We know that the initial ‘fact checks’ were simply wrong with regard to US funding, right?
We agree on that, don’t we?

But what you put in quotes isn’t a quote of Tulsi. I wanted to see what was actually said, and how it was being interpreted.

The closest I find to what you put in quotes is from her video on Twitter:

“Instead of covering this up, the Biden-Harris administration needs to work Russia, Ukraine, NATO, the UN to immediately implement a ceasefire for all military action in the vicinity of these labs until they’re secured and these pathogens are destroyed.”

That’s ‘the lie’?
That she thinks instead of dissembling about how the labs are US funded but not ‘US run’ we should focus on containing and destroying any dangers therein?

I thought Nuland’s response was unequivocal regarding the dangers present in those labs, surely that’s not the point of contention.

So what is ‘the lie’, again?
Willful ignorance on display.
 
GFY. Tulsi's statements do not reflect what you've said and she is being called out widely.

Oh, and before I forget, GFY.
What in my statement was funny about negotiations? As it pertains to what Caroline what’s her name said about what Tusi implied? You think Rudd is going to stop on their own? You think other countries aren’t going to have to get involved to negotiate a cease fire?

North Korea invaded the South. Unprovoked. Did North Korea negotiate a cease fire on their own.

Oh, the GFY? I said grownups.
 
What in my statement was funny about negotiations? As it pertains to what Caroline what’s her name said about what Tusi implied? You think Rudd is going to stop on their own? You think other countries aren’t going to have to get involved to negotiate a cease fire?

North Korea invaded the South. Unprovoked. Did North Korea negotiate a cease fire on their own.

Oh, the GFY? I said grownups.
Yes GFY. Your post is laughable if you just look at what she has been posting on social media. It's clear her intentions are to support Russia. The nonsense about negotiating a ceasefire? Russia's completely in the wrong and needs to pull out - there's no negotiation necessary. Unless you're hoping Russia comes out of this ahead.
 
Yes GFY. Your post is laughable if you just look at what she has been posting on social media. It's clear her intentions are to support Russia. The nonsense about negotiating a ceasefire? Russia's completely in the wrong and needs to pull out - there's no negotiation necessary. Unless you're hoping Russia comes out of this ahead.
Who said Russia isn’t completely in the wrong and doesn’t need to pull out?

The point is, they won’t pull out, so they need to be pressured into at least negotiating a cease fire. My gawd some of you are laughable.
 
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Who said Russia isn’t completely in the wrong and doesn’t need to pull out?

The point is, they won’t pull out, so they need to be pressured into at least negotiating a cease fire. My gawd some of you are laughable.
Tulsi has promoted Russian propaganda. THAT'S the point.
 
Tulsi has promoted Russian propaganda. THAT'S the point.
Is saying that the bio labs in the Ukraine harbor dangerous pathogens ‘Russian propaganda’?

I’m trying to distill down to whether or not things that are true are considered ‘Russian propaganda’.
 
My gawd you’re not even living in reality. I guarantee Tulsi knows and believes Russia is 100% at fault. She is also wise enough to know, unlike you and the idiot that posted what they did, that Russia is not going to stop.

So it’s going to take the world to put pressure on and get Russia to negotiate a cease fire.

From what I’ve seen of you, you’re smarter than this. Quit going down this pathetic rabbit hole.
Ok. Why is she repeating Russian propaganda then if she believes they are 100% responsible? She has been called out by people in her own party. It's available for anyone to see.
 
Ok. Why is she repeating Russian propaganda then if she believes they are 100% responsible? She has been called out by people in her own party. It's available for anyone to see.
Why are you now moving the goal post? I said the bit about other countries needing to get involved to negotiate because someone named Caroline was a joke.

And as another poster asked, Tulsi is all over social media. Post one of her videos or tweets (hers) and then tell us which part is supporting Russian propaganda.
 
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Okay, so Mitt told you. At least you didn’t say Hillary told you.

Oh and, Mitt voted against sending military aid to Ukraine siting it was being rushed. How long does he think Ukraine has going against Russia?

Lol - you're flailing now.

Adam Kinzinger

@AdamKinzinger


Actual Russian propaganda. Traitorous. Russia also said the Luger center in Georgia was making zombies. Tulsi should go to Russia


And I thought the vote was against the $1.5T package. Or doesn't that matter now? Lol.
 
Ok. Why is she repeating Russian propaganda then if she believes they are 100% responsible? She has been called out by people in her own party. It's available for anyone to see.
Mitt said she lied, but there was no lie.
The U.S. is funding biological labs in Ukraine.

Victoria Nuland expressed concern about the danger of the “research materials” in those labs.

So what is the lie?
What is the ‘Russian propaganda’.
Is that the descriptor we’re throwing on every unpleasant truth? That by mentioning it we’re guilty of ‘parroting Russian propaganda’?
 
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Why are you now moving the goal post? I said the bit about other countries needing to get involved to negotiate because someone named Caroline was a joke.

And as another poster asked, Tulsi is all over social media. Post one of her videos or tweets (hers) and then tell us which part is supporting Russian propaganda.
Who is moving the goal post? That is why this thread was started. Hannity even was taken aback by what Tulsi said.
 
Mitt said she lied, but there was no lie.
The U.S. is funding biological labs in Ukraine.

Victoria Nuland expressed concern about the danger of the “research materials” in those labs.

So what is the lie?
What is the ‘Russian propaganda’.
Is that the descriptor we’re throwing on every unpleasant truth? That by mentioning it we’re guilty of ‘parroting Russian propaganda’?
No shit. Not bioweapons labs.
 
Who is moving the goal post? That is why this thread was started. Hannity even was taken aback by what Tulsi said.
So like I asked and the other poster asked, post a video or tweet of Tulsi’s and point to the parroting Russian propaganda. You’ve been asked many times but still nothing.

She’s all over social media. Shouldn’t be too hard.
 
Mitt said she lied, but there was no lie.
The U.S. is funding biological labs in Ukraine.

Victoria Nuland expressed concern about the danger of the “research materials” in those labs.

So what is the lie?
What is the ‘Russian propaganda’.
Is that the descriptor we’re throwing on every unpleasant truth? That by mentioning it we’re guilty of ‘parroting Russian propaganda’?
You've already been punked on this.
The part where she suggests the labs and american funding is "being covered up"

Do i need to translate it to Russian for you first?
 
I am not playing the semantics game with you.
I don’t consider it ‘semantics’ to change someone’s words (attributing to them thereby something they didn’t actually say) and call it a lie.

That’s exactly why I asked for a quote.

I wondered if there was some kind of Dowdification underlying the charge, because Nuland said the labs have dangerous ‘research materials’, and we know they were US funded.
 
You can misinform people by making inappropriate associations, without outright lying about it.

It's just as unethical.
Then maybe you guys should just say you don’t like her attitude and innuendo and you distrust her intentions. It is a bad look to assert an opinion by posting tweets with others asserting the same opinion as fact. Some of us aren’t as threatened by ambivalence as others.
 
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Then maybe you guys should just say you don’t like her attitude

Intentional misinformation that an enemy is using as propaganda isn't "an attitude".

It's un-American.

'member how pissypants you guys are about Jane Fonda?
 
Intentional misinformation that an enemy is using as propaganda isn't "an attitude".

It's un-American.

'member how pissypants you guys are about Jane Fonda?
Jane Fonda? You are so far off the mark with me I wonder if the refs missed a blatant blow to your shooting arm as you released.

As for propagation of misinformation, my belief is the emphasis should be on the eyes rather than the lies. I take Twitter with a grain of salt, I see you take it pretty seriously, I’d posit that as an explanation for why you are more concerned with Gabbard’s Twitter takes than I.
 
No. That's on the mark.
I’m honestly having a hard time following you. I was born several years after Vietnam ended, but I have never been a supporter of that war and have admired those who spoke out, including Fonda, SDS, etc.

I’m of the mind that the first casualty of war is the truth. I’m more troubled by quashing of discourse than inclusion of problematic content. Air it all out: truth and lies. I’d rather contend with lies than be sheltered from them.
 
I’m honestly having a hard time following you. I was born several years after Vietnam ended, but I have never been a supporter of that war and have admired those who spoke out, including Fonda, SDS, etc.
Then you're missing the point here.
 
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