TWO Quarterbacks?

[HawknBadgerLand]

You know what they say....2 Quarterbacks = 2 sexy. But apparently it's ok for a JV team like Michigan to try a little backyard football and try a wrinkle (even though their starting QB is a stud and doing just fine).

I mean if Kirk just quit acting like a rocket scientist and just had some damn fun he could have thrown our running QB in for a few series this season when absolutely nothing else was working.

 

[Max_Rebo]

 

[cidhawkeye]

You know what they say....2 Quarterbacks = 2 sexy. But apparently it's ok for a JV team like Michigan to try a little backyard football and try a wrinkle (even though their starting QB is a stud and doing just fine).

I mean if Kirk just quit acting like a rocket scientist and just had some damn fun he could have thrown our running QB in for a few series this season when absolutely nothing else was working.

‘rocket scientist‘
Rocket surgeon…… FIFY

 

[ShonnDeereGreene]

If nothing else, I hope our new OC, whomever he may be, considers adding some packages for Lainez as a zone-read or RPO option. He may not be a crisp passer (yet) but his legs are an absolute threat, especially if there’s a simple route tree for him to have the option to pass too. Don’t overcomplicate it - I’m talking one, maybe two receivers in the route max.

 

[HawknBadgerLand]

Exactly! Not to keep smashing 2023 but dang they could have done that this year. I'm with ya and hope it happens.

 

[herkyhawk00]

You know what they say....2 Quarterbacks = 2 sexy. But apparently it's ok for a JV team like Michigan to try a little backyard football and try a wrinkle (even though their starting QB is a stud and doing just fine).

I mean if Kirk just quit acting like a rocket scientist and just had some damn fun he could have thrown our running QB in for a few series this season when absolutely nothing else was working.

KF has forgotten more football than many of us will know, but he lacks any common sense when it comes to coping with offensive inadequacies and making adjustments. There is just zero reason we shouldn’t have either had Lainez coming into games and running read option or considering we have several good backs, using one of them in that role. Makes absolutely no sense.

 

[coorsoriginal02]

You know what they say....2 Quarterbacks = 2 sexy. But apparently it's ok for a JV team like Michigan to try a little backyard football and try a wrinkle (even though their starting QB is a stud and doing just fine).

I mean if Kirk just quit acting like a rocket scientist and just had some damn fun he could have thrown our running QB in for a few series this season when absolutely nothing else was working.

You’re not wrong.

With Lainez’ obvious ability to run, he 100% should have been in the mix on occasion.

Kirk is just so darn vanilla.

 

[HawknBadgerLand]

Totally agree, especially when they're playing in the conference championship. Also, they spent a whole month putting off 2024 and hiring an OC to prepare for win #11 only to look worse than week 1.

 

[Max_Rebo]

If nothing else, I hope our new OC, whomever he may be, considers adding some packages for Lainez as a zone-read or RPO option. He may not be a crisp passer (yet) but his legs are an absolute threat, especially if there’s a simple route tree for him to have the option to pass too. Don’t overcomplicate it - I’m talking one, maybe two receivers in the route max.

How about making Deacon a QB-sneak specialist?

 

[herkyhawk00]

You’re not wrong.

With Lainez’ obvious ability to run, he 100% should have been in the mix on occasion.

Kirk is just so darn vanilla.

As it pertains to this year, I would call it
complete incompetence.

 

[HawknBadgerLand]

You’re not wrong.

With Lainez’ obvious ability to run, he 100% should have been in the mix on occasion.

Kirk is just so darn vanilla.

Right. I mean imagine sitting in a young man's living room and convincing his mother that Iowa is the place for him to play quarterback but not recognizing his ability to help the team when nothing else is working.

 

[coorsoriginal02]

As it pertains to this year, I would call it
complete incompetence.

Yeah that’s probably on Brian I suppose. He was “in charge” of the offense after all.

 

[eyesofhawk]

You’re not wrong.

With Lainez’ obvious ability to run, he 100% should have been in the mix on occasion.

Kirk is just so darn vanilla.

The word is "manilla."

Sorry, just a pet peeve of mine

 

[uihawk82]

If nothing else, I hope our new OC, whomever he may be, considers adding some packages for Lainez as a zone-read or RPO option. He may not be a crisp passer (yet) but his legs are an absolute threat, especially if there’s a simple route tree for him to have the option to pass too. Don’t overcomplicate it - I’m talking one, maybe two receivers in the route max.

But also, you can have Marco is empty backfield with receivers split our far, like TN, and a QB run or draw could be called, or another play some nice short routes with one deep route. There could be 5 receivers out there.

 

[herkyhawk00]

Yeah that’s probably on Brian I suppose. He was “in charge” of the offense after all.

That’s BS. Yes, it falls on BF’s shoulders, but all KF had to do was say, “we need to do this.”

 

[coorsoriginal02]

That’s BS. Yes, it falls on BF’s shoulders, but all KF had to do was say, “we need to do this.”

100%. They both absolutely suck at the offense thing. Despicable.

 

[Bulldogs1974]

I think Kirk’s greatest fear is losing a qb. What this year should have taught him is he can win with a kid that may not play at Warburg. He can win with any qb. Let them run a bit and pick up some extra first downs.

 

[NI hawk]

How about making Deacon a QB-sneak specialist?

He actually wasn't very good at sneaks.
No Nate Stanley. Or Petras

 

[Max_Rebo]

He actually wasn't very good at sneaks.
No Nate Stanley. Or Petras

I know. But maybe with more practice?

 

[hoffmkr]

He actually wasn't very good at sneaks.
No Nate Stanley. Or Petras

Deacon should line up behind the guard on qb sneak and dive outside. Let the Lainez take direct snap.

 

[jonesy5960]

The word is "manilla."

Sorry, just a pet peeve of mine

Weird pet peave that makes no sense unless you're talking about an envelope.

 

[Bulldogs1974]

The word is "manilla."

Sorry, just a pet peeve of mine

?

 

[Bulldogs1974]

Weird pet peave that makes no sense unless you're talking about an envelope.

Maybe he’s thinking of the plain little town in Iowa.

 

[eyesofhawk]

Weird pet peave that makes no sense unless you're talking about an envelope.

Maybe he’s thinking of the plain little town in Iowa.

It bothers me because people who get paid to speak (sportscasters) have been getting the word wrong for decades.

Manilla, as in "plain", was the descriptive word first used. Now pretty much everyone just says "vanilla."

Vanilla isn't plain. It has the flavor of vanilla. Just ask yogurt

 

[chuck285]

KF has forgotten more football than many of us will know, but he lacks any common sense when it comes to coping with offensive inadequacies and making adjustments. There is just zero reason we shouldn’t have either had Lainez coming into games and running read option or considering we have several good backs, using one of them in that role. Makes absolutely no sense.

I'm thinking he reads these threads and that was the reason he wouldn't put in a second quarterback. He knew there would be a lot of second guessing that he wouldn't have a good reply for.

 

[jonesy5960]

It bothers me because people who get paid to speak (sportscasters) have been getting the word wrong for decades.

Manilla, as in "plain", was the descriptive word first used. Now pretty much everyone just says "vanilla."

Vanilla isn't plain. It has the flavor of vanilla. Just ask yogurt

Ok. Sure. I think maybe you shouldn't let this one bother you. Because you know, the rest of the world is on board with vanilla.

 

[Bulldogs1974]

It bothers me because people who get paid to speak (sportscasters) have been getting the word wrong for decades.

Manilla, as in "plain", was the descriptive word first used. Now pretty much everyone just says "vanilla."

Vanilla isn't plain. It has the flavor of vanilla. Just ask yogurt

Going to need the etymology of the word.
Manilla described the paper made with origins in the Philippines. A yellow brown paper: having color hence not plain. Vanilla generally means white, lacking color, or plain.
Not sure where you see or Manilla =plain vs vanilla.

 

[Sett1997]

Manilla is the capital of the Philippines
Manila is the paper and word you are discussing. Made from Manila Hemp.
2 different words, who would have thought.
Especially since the origin is the Philippines.

 

[ChiPackHawk]

How about making Deacon a QB-sneak specialist?

Because he wasn’t very good at that. I knew Nate Stanley - he’s no Nate Stanley.😉

 

[shanksit44]

KF has forgotten more football than many of us will know, but he lacks any common sense when it comes to coping with offensive inadequacies and making adjustments. There is just zero reason we shouldn’t have either had Lainez coming into games and running read option or considering we have several good backs, using one of them in that role. Makes absolutely no sense.

Other then the fact he hasn't done that since Brad Banks would come in to jump start the O that was stagnant with McCann under center and then allow McCann to re-enter and benefit from the juice BB ignited in the O.

 

[OutbackBowl2017]

Whatever it is, KF’s offense is manilla/vanilla and too GD boring. Fix it!

 

[cidhawkeye]

It bothers me because people who get paid to speak (sportscasters) have been getting the word wrong for decades.

Manilla, as in "plain", was the descriptive word first used. Now pretty much everyone just says "vanilla."

Vanilla isn't plain. It has the flavor of vanilla. Just ask yogurt

Vanilla isn't plain. It has the flavor of vanilla. Just ask yogurt

That’s all Greek to me… vanilla, Manilla 220-221 whatever it takes

 

[Rambler Hawk]

How about making Deacon a QB-sneak specialist?

Hard Pass - was it the Purdue game he almost fumbled an easy snap near the end of the game?🤪 I’d rather have him wear a red hat for all games next season or pray that Fordham gives him a call this Spring…😎

 

[Rambler Hawk]

I think Kirk’s greatest fear is losing a qb. What this year should have taught him is he can win with a kid that may not play at Warburg. He can win with any qb. Let them run a bit and pick up some extra first downs.

He also seems to have a distain for RBs that drop the rock….but QBs and WRs seem to have free range…🤪

 

[elipse]

Because he wasn’t very good at that. I knew Nate Stanley - he’s no Nate Stanley.😉

Nate Stanley = Tom Brady compared to Deac.

 

[Hawkatheart]

KF has forgotten more football than many of us will know, but he lacks any common sense when it comes to coping with offensive inadequacies and making adjustments. There is just zero reason we shouldn’t have either had Lainez coming into games and running read option or considering we have several good backs, using one of them in that role. Makes absolutely no sense.

Unfortunately one of the things he forgot is how much success we had with Brad Banks. I really hope he stays as far away from the offense as possible. Every time KF walks over in practice to work with the offense I hope he sticks to working with the OL. Use his vast knowledge to make the OL better...he has gotten away from his roots and it has led to his recent lack of effectiveness on O.

 

[jonesy5960]

KF has forgotten more football than many of us will know, but he lacks any common sense when it comes to coping with offensive inadequacies and making adjustments. There is just zero reason we shouldn’t have either had Lainez coming into games and running read option or considering we have several good backs, using one of them in that role. Makes absolutely no sense.

So you're suggesting that Kirk is senile?

 

[Hawk-A-Doodle-Doo]

What's the upside?

 

[mvhomerl]

Kirk just needs to stay at a Holiday Inn Express, then he would be so much smarter! The game is passing him by.

 

[LukaDuka]

You’re not wrong.

With Lainez’ obvious ability to run, he 100% should have been in the mix on occasion.

Kirk is just so darn vanilla.

Saved his redshirt though.