Portal Closes in Just 10 Days: Coaching Malpractice Not to Bring QBs & WRs for Visits?
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My bad. Originally it said “an overweight turnover machine” but then I added “slow-footed” to it and all hell broke loose.
I thnk we can land that transfer from MO State, he is quick and can catch the ball.
If the OL hasn't improved, the QB will have zero time to go through progressions to get the ball the receiver (TE or WR). I think the OL walk on from ND will be a HUGE asset.
Absolutely fantastic WOB! The best on this board in a while. Thank you.
Hahahaha!
Nothing says "logic" like advocating for the staff go out and recruit Iowa's Week 1 starting QB....not during last December's portal window, when most teams were aggressively building their 2024 rosters...and definitely not during spring ball, before the final portal window closes on April 30th.
The ideal, and dare I say "logical" approach, is to let everyone else get guys on campus for spring games to pick and choose their QBs, then sign a cast-off QB during the dead period in the summer when coaches cannot work with them. Perhaps a few weeks before opening kickoff. That should give the new QB plenty of time to enroll, learn the playbook, and get to know the team. It's the ideal way to recruit skill position players.
If we didn't have WDMHawk to espouse high level logic on this board, what would we have?
Dude, you’re needed in another thread… Somebody exposed your bullshit and they’re waiting for your response
I disagree with this. If Cade simply had ACL repair, there is a very good chance he stays healthy the entire season. His early injury last year certainly played a role in increasing his chances of tearing his ACL again. Blake Corum, who had surgery in December for his ACL was healthy all year long and had a great year as a rb. Every person is different, but it is not a given he will injure his ACL again.
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There are certainly success stories, including Corum, Pennix, Adrian Peterson and many others. But, as you said, every person is different, and unfortunately so far CM has demonstrated that his lower extremities are made out of glass, so he's not exactly a strong candidate to beat the odds. I would actually consider him getting through the 2024 season without a knee injury to be somewhat of a miracle, especially considering that he may be running for his life again.
Most of these fans, and sometimes even me are very fatalistic good luck on that…
Super odd that a savvy, sharp, college football expert like you would add Pennix to the list….
You inadvertently helped his cause, Penix at one point in time had been snake bit and injured multiple years in a row and then suddenly he was fine, proving more often than not, it really is just piss poor luck.
Most if not all teams will have their QB run when protection breaks down. Yes Iowa probably more than most.
Please enlighten us oh slawful one. I usually only listen to advice and input from a side dish such as yourself.
Didn’t do anything inadvertently (except maybe put an extra n in Penix). Just listed some of the players who beat the odds after knee injuries. FWIW CM has had surgery on both knees, not just one, so that still makes him a less likely comeback, but I’m sure a super duper special college football expert like you already knew that. Also, despite what you probably think, I would love it if CM comes back to full strength and has a terrific season, so if you think what I posted helps that, then I’ll be happy to take credit when it happens.
And just like that, the second portal window is closed. No new talent can enter and most Power 5 schools are done recruiting and can now get down to business.
Did Iowa get the WR it desperately needs? Nah, 3 scholarship WRs is plenty. Amazing when Kirk went out and hired the best WR coach available in the market in Budmyr.
How about even a below avg QB capable of taking snaps week 1 in place of the QB who drives around campus with a handicapped sticker on his car...nah, staff couldn't even manage to bring a QB on campus to meet the new offensive coordinator and even consider Iowa. I guess it's tough to recruit QBs when new OC is a low regarded MAC cast-off without any recruiting chops.
After two portal periods have come and gone, all the entire staff managed to land out of the portal was a backup center (a position extremely low on Iowa's list of needs) out of North Dakota. That'll definitely fill the void of losing Proctor. But again, Iowa's staff can wait and do its portal recruiting in the summer, long after everyone else is finished. That way there's less competition (and the talent has been picked over by every other Power 5 school who actually prioritize the portal rather than viewing it as an after thought).
Iowalaw said it before the 2022 season. He then said it before the 2023 season...this staff is doing Phil Parker and every player on the stacked defense a severe injustice by putting a Top 5 defense on the field to clean up the mess of a Bottom 5 offense. Be prepared for the Hawks to set additional records on having the lowest over/under score in college football history and having the most punts in a season.
Did Iowa get the WR it desperately needs? Nah, 3 scholarship WRs is plenty. Amazing when Kirk went out and hired the best WR coach available in the market in Budmyr.
How about even a below avg QB capable of taking snaps week 1 in place of the QB who drives around campus with a handicapped sticker on his car...nah, staff couldn't even manage to bring a QB on campus to meet the new offensive coordinator and even consider Iowa. I guess it's tough to recruit QBs when new OC is a low regarded MAC cast-off without any recruiting chops.
After two portal periods have come and gone, all the entire staff managed to land out of the portal was a backup center (a position extremely low on Iowa's list of needs) out of North Dakota. That'll definitely fill the void of losing Proctor. But again, Iowa's staff can wait and do its portal recruiting in the summer, long after everyone else is finished. That way there's less competition (and the talent has been picked over by every other Power 5 school who actually prioritize the portal rather than viewing it as an after thought).
Iowalaw said it before the 2022 season. He then said it before the 2023 season...this staff is doing Phil Parker and every player on the stacked defense a severe injustice by putting a Top 5 defense on the field to clean up the mess of a Bottom 5 offense. Be prepared for the Hawks to set additional records on having the lowest over/under score in college football history and having the most punts in a season.
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I know you can't read/comprehend very well but for the millionth time the portal is still very much open in regards to signing players. It is only closed for entries.
Did you just refer to yourself in the 3rd person? What a donkey.
You’re absolutely correct.
But since half our board remembers when a torn ACL ruined a guy’s career in 1968, they can’t wrap their minds around advances in medicine over the last 60 years.
People aren't stuck in the 60's. It's Cade's recent history that has people wondering. I don't think fans would be nearly as skeptical had he not incurred 4 separate non-contact leg/knee injuries over the last few years while playing in very few games. Everyone is hoping he can come back strong and play out the season, but history suggests those odds might be pretty long given his history.
Not to mention...even if the guy wasn't so injury prone (a fact that cannot be overestimated given that they have all been noncontact injuries where he was running 2 mph and simply hurt himself), he wasn't all that great at Iowa BEFORE the torn ACL.
Against weak non-conference competition (i.e. Western Michigan, Utah State), he had just a 51% completion percentage with 4 tds, 3 interceptions, and a whopping 5.6 yards per completion. He played against one opponent with a pulse, Penn State, and went 5 of 14 for 42 yards...again BEFORE his acl injury. Why is it magically assumed that he will be much better following a serious knee injury?
If it weren't for Deacon Hill setting the bar historically low, Cade's #s are some of the worst we've ever seen at Iowa.
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Well the topic was the injury, not his performance. I agree though. He was bad. I'm giving his performance a pass given the fact that he was never healthy and the staff he was working with sucked. Hopefully a new coach and better health means much improved play. If that was in fact a reflection of what he can do at Iowa, people will still be longing for the days of Spencer Petras.
Lol you're still trying to get your gimmick over with the fans on this message board.
That's cute.
Of course it’s in the middle somewhere.
You’ve seen how many on here think he’s a lost cause. They don’t think his ACL will be ready.
The reality is, he will likely start this season healthy for the first time since his Freshman year at Michigan. The year he saved Harbaugh’s job.
Would I feel better if there were no history of injury? You bet. Do I think he has a decent chance at staying healthy this year? Yep. Half this board thinks he has about 10% chance to stay healthy. You don’t seem to be in that camp.
I don’t have a problem with posters who think he has higher chance to be injured than a guy who has no past injuries. I agree. I do have a problem with posters who seem to think it’s a foregone conclusion that his season will end before October.
I had a catastrophic knee injury. My surgeon does Bulls and White Sox knee surgeries. An ACL/PCL/MCL alone isn't a huge issue though it impacts the brain on trust issues.
The problem really comes in when there is structural damage to meniscal or cartilage material. Once that is altered, a comeback is much more problematic. Your knee never works the same again. I completely understood when cade seems to trip over the logo. Told me he had structural issues. Most of the success stories mentioned earlier I am sure didn't involve major damage/repair to the meniscus.
Mine was a knee inversion like McGahee except my ACL was intact. My medial meniscus was blown apart. I eventually took up distance running again, but there are certain things I had no strength in. Just wasn't there.
Modern medicine cannot fix a structurally altered knee. No way Penix had major structural damage. Cades injuries haven't really been released, but I'm guessing is was structural. Also makes you more injury prone as you overcompensate. I tore my good medial meniscus do to compensating.
What if his season ends in October because he's thrown for 3k with 30 TD's and is shutting it down for the draft? Marco has already gotten in every game because the Hawks have been up by 21 minimum and has shown he may actually be better. Do you have a problem with that?😎
I don't think it's 10%, but I'd feel a lot better about his situation had he actually taken a hit that resulted in an injury. That could be chalked up to bad luck or a specific circumstance. His injuries have all been self inflicted over very limited snaps without so much as a tackle involved. That doesn't elicit alot of confidence that he can finish an entire season.
I sure do! Because I’ll have to see my doctor for an erection lasting more than 4 hours.
Okay, then I’m probably not arguing with you.
I probably think he has a better chance you, but I certainly don’t think it’s a layup he’ll be healthy all season.
Farmboy, you and I have had a similar injury experience. Mine was in football. It’s sneaking up on 30 years, and I’ve never had an issue. I did stop running at about 40. Both knees were starting to bark at me. I can still run, just not regularly.
I also broke my leg, foot, and collarbone, and tore my shoulder labrum. Those were all due to blunt force.
I did have some of that structural knee damage. Crushed the lateral meniscus. I never had any issues with repeat injuries to any of those incidents again, but of course my experience, and the reality of probability over a population means nothing.
Him trusting his knee is probably the biggest issue. The knee will almost certainly be fine structurally. If he doesn’t trust it, then he does have more of a problem on his hands.
He didn’t trip over the logo from structural damage that we don’t even know if he has. He hurt his quad because he couldn’t make up his mind if he should slide or not in that controlled scrimmage. I doubt that happens if he knows somebody might hit him. It looked he was going to slide, and realized he didn’t have, and didn’t do either one. He’d be much better off getting smoked by Jay Higgins, than he would being indecisive.
Not being confident, and being tired are probably the two biggest reasons for injuries that aren’t 100% due to chance.
I absolutely agree he has a higher chance than someone who hasn’t had his injury past. Guys reinjuring something like an ACL occur significantly less often than my observation of what the average poster on this board seems to believe.
I am not a doctor. I have been a trainer for over 20 years who has been to probably 75-100 physical therapy appointments with clients. I get recommended to help people transition out of physical therapy.
Along with going through rehab for my own ACL, I have been involved in rehabbing about 10 ACLs/knee replacements over the years?
I’d trust the doctor of course on diagnosis, and surgery 100 times out of 100. I’d trust the physical therapist( I am not one) 100 times out of 100 on rehab, and when and return to play. I dealt with one knee replacement whose doctor told him to use it as little as possible, because it might wear out.
Any physical therapists on here?
Basically agree. He did however not like what the surgeon at UM had to say.
Look at the size of that scar, and it’s red white and blue!!! A sure sign of advanced infection.
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I no longer hope can play. I just hope he doesn’t lose the leg.
Don't care, not gonna last the season.
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He had something done they didnt advise but was never disclosed. I figured it was a meniscus graft but that is only a guess.
Wow were you wrong again. Wr's and qb's brought in. Quit lying to trash Iowa. You're no fan.
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