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Tyler Cook future

Pretty sure that he's gone from all Freshmen Team, to Hon Mention Big Ten and then 2nd team All Big Ten. That is kind of the operational definition of player development. Much better player when left than when he arrived.

Objective truths are to forum-posters what broccoli is to newman. A vile weed.

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Only nineteen years sooner than Iowa's last BIG Conference Title. Is that correct.

1950. That is the last time you guys won a conference title in hoops. Nineteen. Fifty.

Nebraska has made the NCAA Tourney 7 times. Seven.

ZERO NCAA Wins. ZEE. ROW.

0-7. Average margin of defeat is 11.6 PPG.

Iowa won more NCAA games THIS YEAR than Nebraska has in their entire existence.

You have to be a complete idiot to try and talk smack about hoops.
 
So, now that he’s undrafted he could potentially return to school, assuming he was still completing his spring classes to stay eligible, and try again for the draft next year. I think almost every one of us don’t expect him to do that, but he is actually a case where the new rules would help him out considerably if he took advantage of them. He could probably work his way into a 2nd round pick next year with the right improvements in a senior year and have good visibility on a team that should make the NCAA tourney if he’s on it. But now he’s likely to be playing in front of crowds of a few thousand people in the DLeague or Europe and almost never on TV.

I wish him well, but he’s got a tough road ahead of him to make the NBA now. If he goes overseas he probably never plays a meaningful game in the USA again since he isn’t a draft and stash player like Aaron White. If he stays and plays in the DLeague he won’t be making life changing money unless he improves to the point where a team gives him a shot that they weren’t willing to last night. As has been rehashed many times, a tall athlete with some offensive moves but otherwise holes in his game are almost a dime a dozen every year in the draft. He’ll need to remake his game and playing on a pro team where he won’t have to be “the man” like he would at Iowa next year will allow him an opportunity to do that.
 
So, now that he’s undrafted he could potentially return to school, assuming he was still completing his spring classes to stay eligible, and try again for the draft next year. I think almost every one of us don’t expect him to do that, but he is actually a case where the new rules would help him out considerably if he took advantage of them. He could probably work his way into a 2nd round pick next year with the right improvements in a senior year and have good visibility on a team that should make the NCAA tourney if he’s on it. But now he’s likely to be playing in front of crowds of a few thousand people in the DLeague or Europe and almost never on TV.

I wish him well, but he’s got a tough road ahead of him to make the NBA now. If he goes overseas he probably never plays a meaningful game in the USA again since he isn’t a draft and stash player like Aaron White. If he stays and plays in the DLeague he won’t be making life changing money unless he improves to the point where a team gives him a shot that they weren’t willing to last night. As has been rehashed many times, a tall athlete with some offensive moves but otherwise holes in his game are almost a dime a dozen every year in the draft. He’ll need to remake his game and playing on a pro team where he won’t have to be “the man” like he would at Iowa next year will allow him an opportunity to do that.

I don't think the NBA ever passed the rules that would have allowed him to return to school at this point.
 
1950. That is the last time you guys won a conference title in hoops. Nineteen. Fifty.

Nebraska has made the NCAA Tourney 7 times. Seven.

ZERO NCAA Wins. ZEE. ROW.

0-7. Average margin of defeat is 11.6 PPG.

Iowa won more NCAA games THIS YEAR than Nebraska has in their entire existence.

You have to be a complete idiot to try and talk smack about hoops.

Well, N. Legend has proven to be just that so we shouldn’t be surprised.
 
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Cook was one among many hopefuls for which draft dreams didn't happen. If the current process stays in place it will likely become more common.
 
For starters, Tyler’s worst moments last year were when he was “trying to be the man”. That’s when he got in trouble with turnovers and forced shots. Tyler is actually a very good reciprocal type of player who can be productive and more efficient when he is not expected to be the man. His best option, probably was to come back for one more year and continue to gain exposure on a talented Hawkeye team, but that is done and gone.

The hard part about making it to the NBA from the position Tyler finds himself in now is that he needs to do it quickly. If he doesn’t progress quickly, there is a draft next year with another group of talented players wanting there shot at the NBA, pushing undrafted players from prior years further out of the discussion in NBA executive offices.

Waiting for the Tyler’s next interview where he will almost undoubtedly claim it is good thing that he wasn’t drafted and he now controls who he signs with and will give him the best shot at making it to the league(which is ironic since it is well known that getting drafted was his main objective since stepping foot on campus). Might be a bit of truth to it, but do it quickly as a whole new crop of NBA talents are waiting for there shot next year.
 
He wants to make money playing basketball. One more year at Iowa wasn't going to put him in the league. If anything, a year in the G league or overseas lets him work on his game 24/7. Good for him, and I wish him all the success in the world.
 
Fran and teammates said Tyler was the hardest working guy on the team...first in last out type of ethic.
It would be surprising for a guy to bust his arse when no one is watching only to loaf when everyone is watching...l think he may not have always looked like he was busting arse on the floor but he was...pacing himself by not wasting energy. Baer played high energy but had to come out frequently. Cook needed to stay on the floor.

I don't think Cook outworked Garza. You could see that on the court. Cook loafed back on defense multiple times during the season and most notably in the first half vs Tennessee after missing a lay-up.
 
Cooks combine was trash and I am guessing with his negatives from tape is the reason he didn’t make it. Cook was a great Hawk and I hope he gets his shot on a summer league roster and if not there is no shame making money overseas.
 
Interesting if true. i'm not sure I recall a player in the past 25 years that led the team in scoring and rebounding two years in a row, averaged 15&7 and received as much criticism as Cook. I'm not suggesting he didn't have his shortcomings and perhaps some of the criticism was warranted due to his obvious talent and our hope/desire he would reach his full potential while at Iowa. Seems like the constant negativity and criticism on here and perhaps on campus would get old pretty quick for a player and negatively impact the overall college experience.

I do feel like his self evaluation as a player doesn't quite match up with reality. I've read/heard comments from Cook where he talked about being an effort guy, hustle guy and going full all the time and I didn't really see that, at least on defense and in transition.

He underutilized his own talent and athleticism. Thats what people find frustrating about him.

The easiest way to sum it up is if you put Nick Baers brain in Tyler Cooks body you have a dominant college player who would have already been in the NBA by now.

Instead we had an incredible talent who stood around flat footed half the time.

Its particularly frustrating for Iowa fans because we never have guys with that athleticism but just about every guy who played here tried harder and understood the game better.
 
I don't know Tyler at all, but I somehow got the feeling that his lack of movement (like watching others rebound and standing observing while an opponent went to the basket) was not loafing, but just not having the instincts to get it done. I never have considered Tyler a lazy player, but he sure spent way too much time standing.

He always seemed to me like a guy who had spent the majority of his time practicing one on one.

One on one he was extremely tough to guard and his moves were very good but with 9 other guys on the court he didn't know what to do.

Hes a guy who looks like he should be able to play in the NBA when you put him through a work out but not when you watch game tape.
 
Why not play hoops while he can and then come back and get his degree?

Because its allot easier now when it's free you have help at your disposal and no job.

Personally I'd go back to try and improve enough to get drafted.

One more year of overseas or G league is irrelevant over your life time so you may as well exauhst every opportunity you can to get drafted.

I realize you can accomplish that via other avenues as well but IMO they're less likely.
 
Because its allot easier now when it's free you have help at your disposal and no job.

Personally I'd go back to try and improve enough to get drafted.

One more year of overseas or G league is irrelevant over your life time so you may as well exauhst every opportunity you can to get drafted.

I realize you can accomplish that via other avenues as well but IMO they're less likely.

It will still be free if he comes back to Iowa for the degree, and he will get the same support he does now (advisors, access to the Gerdin Center, etc.).
 
Because its allot easier now when it's free you have help at your disposal and no job.

Personally I'd go back to try and improve enough to get drafted.

One more year of overseas or G league is irrelevant over your life time so you may as well exauhst every opportunity you can to get drafted.

I realize you can accomplish that via other avenues as well but IMO they're less likely.
A person only has a specific window to utilize their abilities while their bodies allow it. I used to be a "stay in school" guy years ago, but now, make money while you're able, before the time clock of life takes that opportunity away. You can ALWAYS go back to school, you can never get your athletic prime back.
 
I do not think one more year in school would have hurt TC... unless you are just super super good and even then, nba scouts DO NOT like to see laziness or lack of effort on the court, it will kill you come draft day.. I thought for sure Tyler would have stayed another year of school but i was wrong, just thought he knew himself he wasn’t quite NBA 1 or 2nd rd draft material just yet. Good luck to him where every he lands thou basketball or not..
 
He underutilized his own talent and athleticism. Thats what people find frustrating about him.

The easiest way to sum it up is if you put Nick Baers brain in Tyler Cooks body you have a dominant college player who would have already been in the NBA by now.

Instead we had an incredible talent who stood around flat footed half the time.

Its particularly frustrating for Iowa fans because we never have guys with that athleticism but just about every guy who played here tried harder and understood the game better.
I get what you’re saying but Nicholas Baer was a crazy good athlete.
 
I would define a "crazy good athlete" for basketball as having elite level speed, quickness, power/strength, and leaping ability in some combination.
Baer is a smart player who excelled because of his effort and court sense.
One thing he is not, though, is a great athlete in comparison to his peers.
 
Not sure I'd agree with "crazy good" but an enormously underrated athlete. The Baer was much quicker, a better jumper and had more straight on speed than most people were led to believe.

Its the stupid idea that white players are always inferior athletes who owe their success to smarter play, more hustle and "instincts". The three most athletic Iowa players since 2007 were all white kids, in one case literally a White player. Whitey, Mikey G and Eric May. Indeed either Bru, Roy or Gerry Wright are the only guys I can remember that could come close to Whitey's hops.

My bulldog Chester has about the same shot at an NBA career as TC, unless TC really improves overseas. The NBA is filled with guys that can do what TC did, just better. TC just doesn't have very good court vision. Walt Frazier wrote about guys like TC whose skill never matches their athleticism. Clyde blamed it on poor youth and HS coaching. Said players that arrive in college with poor mechanics and court awareness can almost never overcome those deficiencies.

TC is going to be missed. I think its whistling past the grave yard to think otherwise. But, good teams lose good players. We have other good players that probably will do different things well. As I have often said, Cordell's lay up counts as much as TC's power slam, and Joey's three ball counts as one more.
 
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Signed with Denver.

I confess to not knowing exactly what this means for his future but I think it means he’ll soon be cut by Denver? Maybe they send him to their developmental team in whatever league. Will he make much money doing this or better off in Europe?
 
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