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Urban Meyer is classless

Originally posted by Sett1997:
Urban is a sleeze ? I hardly think so. I'm tired of our team taking knees. Pussy attitude, Oregon got a taste of their own medicine. Lucky OSU had four turnovers. Would have been 62 or 70 -7. Lol

This post was edited on 1/13 8:24 AM by Sett1997His recruiting strategies and the way he ran his program at Florida/ left the program pretty much confirm he is a sleazy dude. Google it if you need to see for yourself.

I agree to your second point though,I hate when Iowa takes a knee with a minute left and timeouts.
 
whatsup12579er[/URL] has it right here. They ran the same simple run play three times straight. Oregon would of spread the field and did everything they can to score that last touchdown to look good. All OSU did was give their work horse one last shot at another touchdown because the kid deserved it after those three stud performances in a row he put up. I was sitting there while it was happening thinking they should take a knee as well but I have no problem with how they scored the last touchdown.
 
Originally posted by twindman:
You are up 15, down on the 1 yard line or so with 4 downs to run out the clock. But noooo, he goes for a TD twice. Kind of poor sportsmanship if you ask me.
You do realize this is the team that everyone said didn't belong in the Playoff. Everyone said they didn't deserve it. Well he was proving them wrong and Im sorry you go for the throat in that situation.


Ever since the Big Ten Championship all OSU heard was, "Bama is the best, they are going to beat OSU." Then after they beat Bama it was all about Oregon. No one gave them a chance and they proved everyone wrong.

I have no problem with what he did.
 
Originally posted by blhawk:
Classless? The morally self-righteous segment of this fan base is just waaay too much. It's football, not golf. And this coming from a fan base who has seen dozens of blown games because we don't finish. Take your classiness and shove it losers. You guys are embarrassing.
I agree 100%. Classy is when you have a pick 6 wide open in front of you but you lay down because "something bad" might happen.
 
Oregon had their timeouts. If they would have taken a knee, Oregon could have called timeouts and got the ball back down two scores.
 
They already gave them four turnovers that game as charity, no need for more by taking a knee.
 
OSU had their foot on Oregon's throat, and stepped down! Wish KF had half the killer instinct.
That, KF is football!
 
Urban openly said when he got to the BIG that he wanted to change the perception. Last night always a statement game. That last touchdown was simply making a point: nothing flashy, run it down your throat, and that the BIG can play with anybody. I have no issue with it.
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I think it was clear that Oregon had given up and wasnt calling timeouts. It would have been the classier move to take a knee, but more importantly it would have been safer for the players. Why risk injury on the play and a kickoff and whatever plays Oregon runs when you could have downed it one time and the game is over. If someone gets hurt on the kickoff or if Mariotta gets hurt we are having a very different conversation right now. It was pointless risk.
 
I am glad he is who he is. When he came to the league he called out the other coaches for their piss poor recruiting and poor boying the league. Guess what?.,...he was right.

If the league wants to get better it starts with recruiting better than the SEC and other conferences. The B1G leaders needed slapped around a little to see the big picture.
 
If Oregon was worried about keeping the score close they would not have gone for it on 4th and long near their own end zone. They would have punted. This was the NC game, we don't need one team "taking it easy" on the other team. Oregon needed to put on their big boy pants and play defense after missing on the 4th down play.
 
Originally posted by Keehawk:
I think it was clear that Oregon had given up and wasnt calling timeouts. It would have been the classier move to take a knee, but more importantly it would have been safer for the players. Why risk injury on the play and a kickoff and whatever plays Oregon runs when you could have downed it one time and the game is over. If someone gets hurt on the kickoff or if Mariotta gets hurt we are having a very different conversation right now. It was pointless risk.
If Oregon gave up why did they run three pass plays w/ Mariotta to end the game?
 
Ferentz would have taken a knee no doubt, hell he'd have started bleeding the clock in the 3rd quarter. How is the 'nice guy' 'classy' approach working for us? There was nothing wrong with what Urban did last night, he played football for 60 minutes, something we're just not used to seeing. When did everyone get so sentimental?
 
LOL Oregon runs up the score at every chance they get... they got a taste of their own medicine... the score was way closer than it should have been anyway, Oregon got 4 turnovers and still got blasted. They should have lost by almost 40.

This post was edited on 1/13 10:12 AM by Err.
 
Originally posted by Err.:
LOL Oregon runs up the score at every chance they get... they got a taste of their own medicine... the score was way closer than it should have been anyway, Oregon got 4 turnovers and still got blasted. They should have lost by almost 40.

This post was edited on 1/13 10:12 AM by Err.
Exactly!
 
I don't see the big deal with the td. It didn't seem like the Oregon coach minded it and doesn't he have the opinion that matters the most. Besides Mariota was able to make one last attempt to move the ball.

This post was edited on 1/13 12:48 PM by Birdmanil
 
Meyer doesn't care about class, or sportsmanship, or anything else other than winning. He goes for it on 4th down. He demands the ultimate from his players.

And he wins. Just like George Patton. And Bobby Knight. And all the great generals through the years.

And the players loved it. Did you see the euphoria on the Ohio State sideline? I wish our coaching staff had 50% of his intensity

This post was edited on 1/13 1:28 PM by ChosenChildren

This post was edited on 1/13 1:29 PM by ChosenChildren
 
Originally posted by BioHawk:
Against a team that can score as quickly as Oregon can, you never stop. Especially in the national championship game. Better to be accused of running up the score than to be answer questions about how you could have blown a game up by two touchdowns with less than a minute to go.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ This is the right answer!!!!!!!!
 
As Bobby Bowden once said, "It's not my job to stop my offense. That's why they give you 11 guys on defense too." This wasn't an FCS school, it was Oregon. I would have done the same thing if I was Urban if I kept hearing about being the underdog in a subpar conference.
 
Originally posted by twindman:
You are up 15, down on the 1 yard line or so with 4 downs to run out the clock. But noooo, he goes for a TD twice. Kind of poor sportsmanship if you ask me.
I don't have a problem with that TD since Oregon still had 2 timeouts left. I think they would have taken a knee if the TD run would have been stuffed and no TO was called.
 
Originally posted by twindman:
You are up 15, down on the 1 yard line or so with 4 downs to run out the clock. But noooo, he goes for a TD twice. Kind of poor sportsmanship if you ask me.
Find something else to bitch about. Nothing worth while to see here.
 
Originally posted by iowaguy88:
Ferentz would have taken a knee no doubt, hell he'd have started bleeding the clock in the 3rd quarter. How is the 'nice guy' 'classy' approach working for us? There was nothing wrong with what Urban did last night, he played football for 60 minutes, something we're just not used to seeing. When did everyone get so sentimental?
Well put!
 
Originally posted by twindman:
You are up 15, down on the 1 yard line or so with 4 downs to run out the clock. But noooo, he goes for a TD twice. Kind of poor sportsmanship if you ask me.
As Fight Fight Fight for Iowa song says......"until you hear the final gun"
 
Originally posted by mthawkeyes:
I would have taken a knee on first and goal. If they use a timeout, then I put it in the endzone on second down.
This is what I would have done as well. It was obvious Oregon was NOT going to use the timeouts. If you thought they would have, you were not watching the final seconds tick down.

That said, a colleague of mine who is from Ohio and loves OSU said he agreed it was poor sportsmanship, but that he thought Meyer was pissed that Oregon used timeouts in the first half to stop the clock so he was sending a message. I don't know.

I did have two prop bets get blown up, so I'm somewhat biased about this. Under 56.5 at +603 odds and Under 60.5 at +396 would have been nice. Instead, I broke even.
 
Should of put "the Fridge" in to score. As you might guess, I'm still mad Sweetness didn't get to score in that Super Bowl.
But really, why not let some other back try to make a TD? OSU talked so much about being a "team" it wouldn't have hurt to let some sub see if he could run it in.
 
OP...trolling??? That is a stupid comment.
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How about the quacks stopping the player from scoring?
 
Originally posted by blhawk:
Classless? The morally self-righteous segment of this fan base is just waaay too much. It's football, not golf. And this coming from a fan base who has seen dozens of blown games because we don't finish. Take your classiness and shove it losers. You guys are embarrassing.
Wow, boy you are tough!!! You know what you are right!! Screw morals, screw class-act behavior, this is football!! We should stop shaking hands after games too I think, will make us tougher!!

I cannot believe I have been such a loser and so embarrassing to the rest of Hawkeye fans by thinking that you can not act like an absolute jerk-off and still be successful.

Sorry everyone, this is football!!!!
 
You are who you are. Urban has shown throughout his career what his coaching is all about - win and win big. That is who he is. If Elliot wrecks a knee on that play, well "That's football." He would just plug in another highly recruited player and went for it. If they take a knee, game over, OU would not have called TO, they were done. But really OU putting Mariota back out for the final 28 seconds was just as questionable. Not even the Patriots would score 22 points in 28 seconds even if they were playing the Sisters of the Poor.

Right now, Michigan State is the only team in the Big 10 that can compete with OSU -- maybe Michigan will get back under Harbaugh, but the way OSU recruits and how they approach the game is no different than Alabama in the SEC. Realistically there are only a handful of schools that compete at that level and Iowa (along with 90% of the other FBS schools) is not one of them. There is no shame in that -- Iowa runs a clean program, their players graduate and for the most part stay off of the police rolls.
 
This is a situation where the game has been won. It's a guaranteed victory (overly paranoid Rob Lowe might say assuming a clean snap and drop of the knee). The occasional comparison in this thread to not putting teams away during the game is something different. Personally, I wouldn't have done it. It's not being conservative, it's being smart. If Urban Meyer thought, for reasons satisfactory to him, that punching in the "We Bad" touchdown was worth risking injury or miracle change of outcome then so be it. I don't think the extra 7 points gains anything in player satisfaction, Big 10 image, or recruiting more than the label National Champion already does, and I can think of unintended consequences that would lead to immense regret.
 
Originally posted by twindman:
You are up 15, down on the 1 yard line or so with 4 downs to run out the clock. But noooo, he goes for a TD twice. Kind of poor sportsmanship if you ask me.

I'd take him in a heartbeat!
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Urban is like a breath of fresh air for this conference. Harbaugh should be too. Frankly, I'm sick of lame duck coaches.
 
Originally posted by Keehawk:
I think it was clear that Oregon had given up and wasnt calling timeouts. It would have been the classier move to take a knee, but more importantly it would have been safer for the players. Why risk injury on the play and a kickoff and whatever plays Oregon runs when you could have downed it one time and the game is over. If someone gets hurt on the kickoff or if Mariotta gets hurt we are having a very different conversation right now. It was pointless risk.
This. After the offside call the game was over. Class still counts.
 
Nonsense. The bigger this win, the better the statement... for OSU and for the B1G.

35 to 20 doesn't put the stamp on this P0nwership that history demands.

42 to 20 sort of does.
 
Originally posted by twindman:
You are up 15, down on the 1 yard line or so with 4 downs to run out the clock. But noooo, he goes for a TD twice. Kind of poor sportsmanship if you ask me.
So much jealousy, how embarrassing.
 
Originally posted by ChosenChildren:
Meyer doesn't care about class, or sportsmanship, or anything else other than winning. He goes for it on 4th down. He demands the ultimate from his players.

And he wins. Just like George Patton. And Bobby Knight. And all the great generals through the years.

And the players loved it. Did you see the euphoria on the Ohio State sideline? I wish our coaching staff had 50% of his intensity

This post was edited on 1/13 1:28 PM by ChosenChildren
This post was edited on 1/13 1:29 PM by ChosenChildren
And when things start to go a little bad for the program, he leaves. He quits. Patton and Knight didn't quit when things got tough.
 
Originally posted by hwksforlife:

Originally posted by twindman:
You are up 15, down on the 1 yard line or so with 4 downs to run out the clock. But noooo, he goes for a TD twice. Kind of poor sportsmanship if you ask me.
I don't have a problem with that TD since Oregon still had 2 timeouts left. I think they would have taken a knee if the TD run would have been stuffed and no TO was called.
Doubt it. Oregon stopped them on 1st down and didn't call a TO. They were content with letting the clock run out.

It's not a big deal. OSU won, Oregon lost, and I don't like either team. I'm glad Saban didn't win.
 
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