Originally posted by aflachawk:
Originally posted by slieb85:
Originally posted by aflachawk:
Originally posted by slieb85:
It's sad that in 2015 we live in such a barbaric society.Â
It always amuses me that the same people who scream bloody murder about the Government not being able to run a bake sale are perfectly fine with the State taking the life of one of it's citizens.Â
If the citizen committed one or more murders, if a citizen brutalizes a child or the elderly, I am OK with it. My compassion extends to the innocent not the guilty
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Well, that's good for you. I don't think that the State should have the power to take a citizen's life. It's a hard-line stance I take.
Part of that is from the fact that prosecutors/cops/juries/judges get it wrong at an alarming rate. Part of that is my fundamental views on society and politics.
Like I said, Republicans espouse rhetoric that would make you think they would absolutely hate the idea of giving the State power to execute one of their citizens. But, they don't follow their own political philosophies very well, and are weirdly the supporters of this. Democrats don't support it, but it's generally (at least in my experiences) a compassion thing.
I'm not sure why so many Republicans support the death penalty, but I would hypothesize it is due to religion, as that drives a good chunk of their actions.
Cops, judges and juries do get it wrong some times but I would not use the word alarming. As far as your screed about lack of compassion, save that lie also. The thing that amazes me is Libs like you are aghast at the barbaric society wee live in(your words) because of the killing of people who took some ones lives but have no compassion for the innocent baby right up to conception who gets his/life ripped away for no other reason than the convenience of the mother.
Lol, where even to begin.
You might not use the word alarming, but I would. And I think that even one person's life wrongly taken by the State is one too many. Especially when there are alternatives, such as life in prison, which can be alleviated when the mistakes are found out.
Here's 2 articles from a 2 second search on the Northwestern Center for Wrongful Convictions' Twitter account.
http://nypost.com/2015/03/06/woman-exonerated-after-30-years-in-jail-for-76-murder/
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/brian-howe/ricky-jackson-how-america_b_6763050.html
I'm sure if I tried harder, we'd find more and more and more mistakes.
Additionally, you have no idea where I stand on abortion. But, I can tell you one thing, I sure as hell wouldn't want the state mandating that someone gets an abortion, which is more akin to the death penalty than what you're trying to say.
You also make no real sense with your "right up to conception" "for no other reason than convenience of the mother".
Either you don't understand the current abortion laws, or you're purposely distorting them. I'm guessing the latter. I support abortion up until the point of viability. That's not "right up to birth" (as I'm sure you were trying to say). That's not taking a human life, because, it's not a viable life at this point.
We live in a society where the State can take the life of one of it's citizens when it has deemed that person guilty. I find that barbaric and evidence of a bloodthirsty society, and frankly of a flawed political setup. You disagree, so be it.
Also, I love how you simple minded morons use "lib" like it's some sort of insult, especially on someone who has hardly voted for any Democrats, at any level, and has never voted for a Democrat president (and probably never will).
