Uthoff Draft Stock Rising
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Like in Croatia, Lithuania, Iceland, England, Finland, Denmark, Sweden,..........
What does "ring" sound like in Portuguese?
All right, I see this thread has attracted some Cyclone nitwits. I never would have imagined a kid not getting drafted in the NBA would cause so many dipshit Cyclone fans to troll on over with cardinal and gold clad boners. Pretty pathetic when you think about it. Since this is what this thread has clearly turned in to, I'm not going to waste my time with mental midgets. Peace out.
For the record, I'm NOT directing that at the Cyclone fans who post here regularly and with whom we can have good discussions with.
For the record, I'm NOT directing that at the Cyclone fans who post here regularly and with whom we can have good discussions with.
Perhaps. But you could say that about a lot of players. Is Aaron White better than Uthoff because he got drafted last year and Uthoff didn't? It really just depends on which teams are drafting and in what positions. I'm sure JU is disappointed but that's life. If he wants it bad enough, he'll have his opportunity.
Congrats to Niang, Nader, and Paige for being drafted. I believe those are the only 3 Iowa connections, right? Nader was definitely a surprise for me. Did anyone see him on any mock draft boards?
Ute > white... hadn't heard a word about nader but congrats to him. I feel every team could use a tall shooter like ute, really disappointing, but it's not the last you'll hear of JU.
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That is why you are, like me, opining on a numbnut message board.
Why make million dollar decisions. Just prove your analysis is correct because "they" just aren't as smart you.
Guess you don't know your facts too well sparky.
And Iowa has more players in the NFL currently than Iowa State has had in its entire Football history. Not sure if a fact, but I'm guessing it is. That trend has got to continue Cyclone Fan.
There just aren't 60 open roster spots in the NBA each year so at least half if not more of the second round picks will not find a roster spot because there aren't that many each year. That may be one reason why teams use their pick on foreign players who they know are not even available next year because they are under contract to a foreign team. I don't believe I have seen a draft list in the last 20 years that had so many players that I had never heard of before.
It has clearly become an international game. Predicting the draft is like forecasting an election. I thought this would be a great night for my Celtics, but it was a pretty big disappointment. When they chose Nader I about puked.
It could be worse. Who had money on the UK staying in the European Union? Oh I guess I did. I didn't touch my stocks and lost my a$$. Good thing I'm only 67 so I've got time LOL.
Tough night for Hawk fans, but the sun will come up.... at least that's my bet.
It could be worse. Who had money on the UK staying in the European Union? Oh I guess I did. I didn't touch my stocks and lost my a$$. Good thing I'm only 67 so I've got time LOL.
Tough night for Hawk fans, but the sun will come up.... at least that's my bet.
Uthoff is definitely ahead of White. White has Jarrod on positioning, which is huge. But JU has him on just about every other category.
Uthoff will end up with someone. He can select where he wants to go and who needs his talents the most. He is in a better situation now, than if he ended up being drafted.
JU will make plenty of money playing professionally. There is no question on that. Just save your cash...
Nader was a surprise to just about everyone it seems. Not only was he off every draft board, he wasn't even in most top 100. Good for him.
Neither of them showed anything and Iowa > Iowa State. Confirmed by an ISU fan already on the football board. Deal with it.
I think a large number of coaches would take a 2015 White over 2016 Uthoff if given the choice.
The likelihood of Uthoff making an nba roster was low. Now it's lower. Surprised that niang was drafted. Nader being taken is completely out of left field.
Can Uthoff make it as a free agent? Sure, it's not impossible. Just unlikely. Better money is on him playing in Europe.
Can Uthoff make it as a free agent? Sure, it's not impossible. Just unlikely. Better money is on him playing in Europe.
I don't think he made any AA teams, much less all of them, which is what a consensus AA means.
I'm very surprised he wasn't drafted. I've always been a big admirer of his.
Exactly. How many players from Villanova were drafted last night? And yet, they somehow won a national championship this year. I'm a Hawkeye fan, not an NBA fan. Good luck to all the graduating Hawkeye BB players in their futures, but it's THEIR dream to play in the NBA or Europe after college, not mine. MY dream is for the Hawks to win a national title.
He most certainly made an AA team. Not consensus and not First Team but still.
I think I heard one of the announcers say that there were more international players selected in the first round this year than ever before. They were saying the American college lot this year was "down" so maybe that's why ... or there's just a hell of a lot of talent being developed overseas. When you think about it, the U.S. has 300 million people ... and the world has about 7 billion! Given that the past two decades have seen cradle-to-20s development of basketball players in Europe, this may be the new norm. In fact, a decade from now two-thirds of draft picks could come from outside the U.S. (maybe more beyond that).
I wonder how much input Hoiberg had on the Bulls' selections. Niang was right there for the taking in the 2nd round ....
You do realize the odds of Niang and especially Nader making the Celtics aren't especially high and good chance they end up in Eurpoe or the D League too. Funny thing in last few years of Hawks and Clones drafted the non drafted BDJ probably found the best landing spot for future consistent NBA minutes with New Orleans with the contract extension he received right up until his death this summer (and no this isn't to bring up any pissing match again on his death).
Plus funny to see lot of clone troll post about Uthoff not getting drafted. Most have really awesome/pathetic lives if you need to go to an Iowa board and gloat about something as minuscule as this. I bet JU is disappointed not drafted but end of the day he will still get a chance to make an NBA roster and will have just as a good of a chance as most guys drafted in 40s and 50s to make a roster.
Nice to see Hoiberg's team jump on Georgie Pordgie. Given his immense talents and skills, the Bulls got a steal in the second round. Hoiberg's "inside knowledge" likely drove the decision. Pretty cool that the Bulls got a top 5 talent in the second round.
Huh? What? The Bulls didn't draft him?
An abundance of Euro and foreign players, he doesn't have an expansive skill set, he's 23 etc. etc. blah, blah, blah.....
Guy is as soft as a kitten and disappears constantly especially when the pressure is on. That's why he didn't get drafted. Period
Not rippin on him that's a fact.
Guy is as soft as a kitten and disappears constantly especially when the pressure is on. That's why he didn't get drafted. Period
Not rippin on him that's a fact.
Yeah, not sure what the cautionary tale means. Getting drafted is still better than not.
In Niang's case, it was a good spot in Indiana. Let's also remember though that each team likely only has 1-2 roster spots open each year after the team signs their 1st round pick.
Nader, apparently he's already agreed to play in the D-League next year as the Celtics had a ton of draft picks this year.
As for Uthoff, he will still be on an NBA summer league team and get some opportunities. Another thought is that he can now choose to seek out a lucrative contract in Europe instead of getting jerked around making $24k in the NBA D-League.
In Niang's case, it was a good spot in Indiana. Let's also remember though that each team likely only has 1-2 roster spots open each year after the team signs their 1st round pick.
Nader, apparently he's already agreed to play in the D-League next year as the Celtics had a ton of draft picks this year.
As for Uthoff, he will still be on an NBA summer league team and get some opportunities. Another thought is that he can now choose to seek out a lucrative contract in Europe instead of getting jerked around making $24k in the NBA D-League.
Glad to know I'm not the only Celtics fan disgusted. When I saw their first pick I did an immediate Homer Simpson self face palm and went, "Doooooooh."
Yeah, I think the fact that Danny Ainge had a crap ton of picks to work with worked in Nader's favor. When you think about it, why not take a chance on a wild card like Nader? After all, you know well over half your picks well never see the floor for you anyway. Nader is one of those tall athletic guards with a decent shot and it's certainly possible he could end up surprising every one.
Oh, which by the way, speaks to the original point of this thread I started: All it takes is one team to be high on a kid
I either heard them say or read over half,16 foreign players were taken in the first round. That included foreign players like Sabonis who mock drafts showed he went to college in the US like many of them do but he grew up in Lithuania where his family still lives. U used to love to watch his dad play ball in the NBA. He appeared like a gentle giant. As far as making an NBA roster from the summer league, that isn't easy as summer league teams will have up to 20 players with none to maybe 2 roster openings to fill. Hanging around in the D league would probably give undrafted or even many second round drafted players an opportunity to study teams and be better prepared to step right into an opening during the season for teams who get decimated by injury.
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Why do you say Uthoff is soft? I'm not necessarily disagreeing with you, but "soft" is a vague term. I don't think he's comfortable being the go-to guy. He filled that role last year, but it sometimes appeared he was out of his comfort zone.
He also seemed to appear to have an issue when defenses placed particular focus on him with their rotations and playing physical with him to deny him even touching the ball.
With that said, in Jarrod's defense, he did have a number of big games and helped us in some big comebacks. He was brilliant in both of our wins against Purdue last year, which might have had the biggest and most physical defense we played last year (until Villanova). The win against Minnesota at home is another good example of him battling through adversity as he simply could not get a break on his shots in the first 17 minutes of the game. I think he opened the game 1-10 shooting, with many shots/layups just rolling out. He stayed aggressive and 24 points and 15 rebounds to help us avoid a big upset as we won by 4. He had 29 points and shot over 50% from the field in our season finale at Michigan when many were already counted us out after losing 5 of 6 games. He also had 23 points in our first round win over Temple. So to say he didn't play well in big games is unfair, in my opinion.
Thus, I might agree that Uthoff is "soft" in terms of being reluctant to be the go-to player and struggling to beat double teams and physical defense. With that said, in the NBA he would not be asked to be the go-to guy, and he wouldn't face double teams. He'd be asked to be a spot-up shooter/slasher as maybe the 3rd or 4th option when he is on the floor. I think he could thrive in that role. I just see very few things that he can't do on the court. He can shoot, handle the ball, block shots, get steals, and rebound.
Finally - I think your second post is spot-on. From the reports I saw, he did himself no favors at the draft combine.
I take "soft" to mean "handles contact poorly".
This is on a spectrum of course. But, JU is clearly not a guy that does well with contact.
Nor does Pete.
Iowa's Jarrod Uthoff reaches consensus all-America status
http://www.hawkcentral.com/story/sp...thoff-ap-all-american-iowa-hawkeyes/82378388/
The Internet, disallowing the spread of random nonsense bullshit since 1996. Well done.
Just saw a tweet that said that Jarrod's agent claimed he had multiple opportunities to be drafted in a "draft and stash" scenario last night but turned them all down to explore other NBA options.
I'll try to find it
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