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Again, you are banking a marginal bump in production will be more important than the balance, growth, and culture of the program. The next two recruiting classes will be the rewards of the Clark era. Those classes will stabilize the program consistency, and that consistency is what will bring in top classes going forward. It's just not the right time for Iowa to abandon that chasing blue bloods. Gotta be patient.

What's more, with better recruiting classes (including the incoming freshmen), you might see a greater impact from those younger players than we've had in the past. I'd guess at least two of those players play a significant role next season, and that's far more important to future success than any small bump coming from marginal portal players.

And Lucy Olsen is major need, and a next level player that is a perfect fit right now within that balance. Huge get for next year.
You aren't abandoning that by pulling in 1 year players at all. (Lucy Olsen) Those next two classes will be great but they aren't ready now. You don't want to have a couple down seasons until those classes come of age.

I get your point that Iowa typically has to build things up but women's basketball is a bit different at Iowa right now. With other sports, I agree that you have to rely more on recruiting and developing young players into great players. We are on the fringe of becoming a blue blood. Back to back championship appearances. In order to get back to the Final Four next season, I think you have to pull in one more proven veteran player. By doing so, I don't think you hurt culture or recruiting. I think you actually help those things if it works out that you make the Final Four and continue this success without CC. Whether The Swarm has the money to bring in another big transfer would be the question.
 
You guys do realize that HVL is an adidas athlete and Iowa is a Nike school. Her coming to Iowa just isn’t going to happen.
 
You aren't abandoning that by pulling in 1 year players at all. (Lucy Olsen) Those next two classes will be great but they aren't ready now. You don't want to have a couple down seasons until those classes come of age.

I get your point that Iowa typically has to build things up but women's basketball is a bit different at Iowa right now. With other sports, I agree that you have to rely more on recruiting and developing young players into great players. We are on the fringe of becoming a blue blood. Back to back championship appearances. In order to get back to the Final Four next season, I think you have to pull in one more proven veteran player. By doing so, I don't think you hurt culture or recruiting. I think you actually help those things if it works out that you make the Final Four and continue this success without CC. Whether The Swarm has the money to bring in another big transfer would be the question.
No way Iowa gets that deep in the tourney next year without a whole lot of talent coming in, and that's just not happening--- unless you want a completely different coach/culture/program.

Be happy they are building something that can possibly get them back to those heights, and as a complete roster. Meanwhile, i think you might want to adjust your expectations.
 
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No way Iowa gets that deep in the tourney next year without a whole lot of talent coming in, and that's just not happening--- unless you want a completely different coach/culture/program.

Be happy they are building something that can possibly get them back to those heights, and as a complete roster. Meanwhile, i think you might want to adjust your expectations.
Disagree about getting that far if they could add another high level talent. Affolter and Stuelke are All Big Ten level talents potentially. They just added a PG that could be on that level as well.

Likely we will take a step back after losing the best player in college basketball but not guaranteed. They have a lot of talent on the roster.
 
I understand the argument of going with the current players but the roster is young so having a 1 year player to come in and contribute, to me, would be the perfect fit.
The roster is not young. All these kids will be 3rd, 4th or 5th year players. Hailey is not a perfect fit by any stretch. Her style of play does not match Bluder’s. She has now transfered twice — huge red flag about her commitment to any team. And her interest in Iowa is CERTAINLY less than zero. It’s crazy that people don’t see why that is after all this time and all the discussion about recruiting over the years. Hvl is neither a good fit nor a realistic target for Iowa.
In order to get back to the Final Four next season, I think you have to pull in one more proven veteran player. By doing so, I don't think you hurt culture or recruiting. I think you actually help those things if it works out that you make the Final Four and continue this success without CC. Whether The Swarm has the money to bring in another big transfer would be the question.
Iowa is not going to the final four next year, with or without Olsen. We should all accept that now and cheer on this team to what could potentially be a very exciting sweet 16 / elite 8 berth.

We certainly would not go to a final four with HVL either — if anything she could hold them back. She doesn’t play great defense and she is very ball dominant. She doesn’t share well and loves to shoot in the midrange, a luxury Bluder only affords to select players. A roster of transfers will not take Iowa there either. Look at Ohio State, Maryland, the list goes on of schools that bring in multiple elite transfers and then fizzle out bc there’s no chemistry/continuity, and now they have 5-6 transfers out every single year. It’s a bad look and their fans hate it.

Iowas system is unique in that we don’t rly play in the half court — execution in transition takes time to perfect, no team of transfers is going to learn it all quickly enough to go that deep. The players we have coming back know the system and their role in it.

If we did want another player to come in and help, there are at least 10 other players in the portal who are better options. I’d rather have Scherr than HVL since she plays great defense, has size/length and distributes well.

Jensen recently said that they don’t look to the portal as though they’re shopping for the best players. They go there to fill gaps. Thats why they brought in Davis and now why they are bringing in Olsen. We had a gap, now it is filled. We were all thrilled when we landed the recruits that are now gonna be juniors / seniors, let’s give them a chance to prove themselves. It has never been Bluder’s style to hit up each and every elite transfer/prospect, she’s not gonna change that now. We have a talented team of kids who are now largely upperclasswomen, it’s time to let them shine. We have multiple options at every position outside PG, where we now have a star ready to shine as a hawk. And we have the best top to bottom recruiting class coming in as freshman. We’re in a very good position as we enter the next era of Iowa WBB and the future only promises to get better.
 
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It’s bc they don’t watch wbb outside Iowa. They see a white girl who can shoot and think “she’d be great fit!” It’s a good litmus test IMO of whether ppl know anything about other programs (or ours for that matter) lol

Man Shikreto, you have a lot of good insight on here but damn, you really project a lot. You seem to be one of the most judgemental people on this board in all honesty. We know you've been watching forever and don't like the new "fairweather" fans of the WBB team at times but this comes off as quite pompous and pretentious. It's a bad look for someone who is very obviously trying to come off as an intellectual. I know you won't care about my opinion but just letting you know how others may perceive an otherwise very good and knowledgeable poster.

Just being honest with you, very few people watch WBB in general so maybe try not to denigrate the new ones that are now beginning to as much. It's a good thing people are now interested in Iowa women's basketball, right?
 
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