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in some pictures his grip is fine...others not so much. Looks like he has small hands. At least he is holding it up into his body most of the time.
 
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At least he typically carries it in the proper hand. Mitchell needs some BIG TIME work in that area.
 
He needs to hold it with two hands through traffic as well.

I don't think this is a matter of not coaching it. I think it's a matter of the player not doing it. He arguably has the best speed and quickness of any of our running backs and he's very good at finding the right hole or lane to run through, but there's a reason he was 3rd (4th?) string.
 
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some of you are really reaching hard to defend KF, yeesh.
Defend him from what? Wadley was a 2 star recruit with no other D1 offers and KF and staff was able to find yet another diamond in the rough.....also Wadley had 36 carries with 3 fumbles heading into the NW game this year....that is a fumble every 12 carries....you expect a coach to play a RB who would fumble twice a game....
 
Watch one of his TD runs where he covers it with both hands - he will I prove with more game time.

I don't disagree with you. I don't think Wadley doesn't want to do those things. It's just a matter of training your body to do it without thinking about it.
 
Quote from Wadley that probably has more than some truth to it:
"They are some dogs, some bulls," Wadley said of his O-line. "They just lighten up the load. Anybody can run behind them."
 
Anyone that remotely follows Iowa Football knows this young man has the talent to play RB in the B1G but his problem is that he can't hang on to the ball. When asked about Wadley post game the first think out of KF's mouth was 'he hung on to the ball which was good.'
 
Anyone that remotely follows Iowa Football knows this young man has the talent to play RB in the B1G but his problem is that he can't hang on to the ball. When asked about Wadley post game the first think out of KF's mouth was 'he hung on to the ball which was good.'

how do you know that if he doesn't ever play?

follow me here....let's say Jordan never gets hurt this year and Akrum never saw the field again after North Texas.

only to find out next season we had a home run back on the team and he was languishing on the bench because of some perceived fumble problem?

doesn't the fact that he didn't fumble kind of throw a wrench in the well he doesn't play because he fumbles excuse?

reality =/= rationalization for not playing him.
 
how do you know that if he doesn't ever play?

follow me here....let's say Jordan never gets hurt this year and Akrum never saw the field again after North Texas.

only to find out next season we had a home run back on the team and he was languishing on the bench because of some perceived fumble problem?

doesn't the fact that he didn't fumble kind of throw a wrench in the well he doesn't play because he fumbles excuse?

reality =/= rationalization for not playing him.
Perceived?!?!?!?!?!.....are you serious man....36 carries 3 fumbles.....we get it, you dislike KF and are in very very very short supply on things to criticize so this is all you have.....I am sure you were bitching about how we recruited yet another 2 star back from a subdivision Temple team and now you are bitching why this very same back is not playing.....THE DUDE FUMBLED EVERY 12 CARRIES, THOSE ARE FACTUAL STATISTICS not percieved
 
how do you know that if he doesn't ever play?

follow me here....let's say Jordan never gets hurt this year and Akrum never saw the field again after North Texas.

only to find out next season we had a home run back on the team and he was languishing on the bench because of some perceived fumble problem?

doesn't the fact that he didn't fumble kind of throw a wrench in the well he doesn't play because he fumbles excuse?

reality =/= rationalization for not playing him.
Just curious why you think a guy who has had problems fumbling in practice fumbling and has 3 fumbles in his first 36 carries should have been sharing carries with Canzeri who has been fantastic this year? Lets all hope he keeps up the ball security not only because he is talented but also because he has to be the man now and Iowa needs him to hold on to the ball.
 
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Perceived?!?!?!?!?!.....are you serious man....36 carries 3 fumbles.....we get it, you dislike KF and are in very very very short supply on things to criticize so this is all you have.....I am sure you were bitching about how we recruited yet another 2 star back from a subdivision Temple team and now you are bitching why this very same back is not playing.....THE DUDE FUMBLED EVERY 12 CARRIES, THOSE ARE FACTUAL STATISTICS not percieved

don't know if you noticed but he carried the ball 26 times for no fumbles last Saturday.

does that mean he never fumbles? ie. no fumbles every 26 carries?

fumbles are a part of the game, you still play him even if he fumbles.

again, Canzeri has fumbled multiple times this year and KF never mentioned them.
 
Gotta love a thread criticizing a player where nearly every photo in the OP has him either ripping a long run or going into the endzone.
Last I checked, he didn't fumble.

Well, that is the point of this thread. He fortunately didn't fumble, despite poor form. If he doesn't clean it up, the fumbles will return. Obviously Kirk still has the same concern.
 
how do you know that if he doesn't ever play?

follow me here....let's say Jordan never gets hurt this year and Akrum never saw the field again after North Texas.

only to find out next season we had a home run back on the team and he was languishing on the bench because of some perceived fumble problem?

doesn't the fact that he didn't fumble kind of throw a wrench in the well he doesn't play because he fumbles excuse?

reality =/= rationalization for not playing him.

1) Canzeri proved he was a "home run" back the week prior.
2) The fumble problem wasn't "perceived".

That said.....love Wadley and we're very fortunate to have 4 quality backs on the team.
 
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don't know if you noticed but he carried the ball 26 times for no fumbles last Saturday.

does that mean he never fumbles? ie. no fumbles every 26 carries?

fumbles are a part of the game, you still play him even if he fumbles.

again, Canzeri has fumbled multiple times this year and KF never mentioned them.
Prior to the NW game had a fumble every 12 carries, that is really bad at any level. I think we all noticed that and obviously the coaches have been working with him on this and will still need some work as shown in the photos above. Why can't you just admit that you just do not like KF and admit that you refuse to give him or his staff any credit what so ever.....b/c maybe you should credit the staff for solving his fumble issues and for seeing a diamond in the rough and being the reason he is even on this team......
 
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Just curious why you think a guy who has had problems fumbling in practice fumbling and has 3 fumbles in his first 36 carries should have been sharing carries with Canzeri who has been fantastic this year? Lets all hope he keeps up the ball security not only because he is talented but also because he has to be the man now and Iowa needs him to hold on to the ball.

probably because i just witnessed a game where the defense had a hard time even getting a hand on him, much less tackling him.

his performance was really incredible and the first thing KF says is "he hung on to the ball" (ie. well yeah, he might be really special but normally he fumbles)

26 carries, no fumbles, got that part?
 
probably because i just witnessed a game where the defense had a hard time even getting a hand on him, much less tackling him.

his performance was really incredible and the first thing KF says is "he hung on to the ball" (ie. well yeah, he might be really special but normally he fumbles)

26 carries, no fumbles, got that part?
Since you will not admit your hatred of KF, even when we are 12th ranked 7-0 football team. I will admit that you and a few other posters constant ridicule of KF (even when completely unwarranted) is getting super old....I am sure I am not the only one who thinks that.....Criticizing KF for not playing a RB who has fumbled every 12th carry is on the top ten list for garbage post......I too saw the speed, agility, and vision against NW, so credit to the coaching staff for being one of two D1 programs for seeing that as well...Furthermore, KF and staff have obviously pushed the right buttons all year and have a tremendous pulse of this team right now hence 7-0
 
He needs to hold it with two hands through traffic as well.

I don't think this is a matter of not coaching it. I think it's a matter of the player not doing it. He arguably has the best speed and quickness of any of our running backs and he's very good at finding the right hole or lane to run through, but there's a reason he was 3rd (4th?) string.

I don't think there's anything arguable about that but that ball looks huge next to him.
 
Prior to the NW game had a fumble every 12 carries, that is really bad at any level. I think we all noticed that and obviously the coaches have been working with him on this and will still need some work as shown in the photos above. Why can't you just admit that you just do not like KF and admit that you refuse to give him or his staff any credit what so ever.....b/c maybe you should credit the staff for solving his fumble issues and for seeing a diamond in the rough and being the reason he is even on this team......

hear me out, my frustration is that it seems like certain guys get a really long leash with mistakes and other guys we get comments like "he had a really bad week in practice"(CJ) and "well he hung on to the ball!!"(Akrum)

KF would never say stuff like that about one of his favorites.

I really hope Akrum doesn't stay on that short leash and get yanked the next time he fumbles because that would be a travesty.

I hope KF gives Akrum the long rope he gave Jake last season and hangs in there with him the rest of the year.

This situation is kind of like the Jake/CJ banter. yeah CJ is really special but he turns the ball over so much.

yeah well so what, CJ was/is just flat out better than Jake.
 
how do you know that if he doesn't ever play?

follow me here....let's say Jordan never gets hurt this year and Akrum never saw the field again after North Texas.

only to find out next season we had a home run back on the team and he was languishing on the bench because of some perceived fumble problem?

doesn't the fact that he didn't fumble kind of throw a wrench in the well he doesn't play because he fumbles excuse?

reality =/= rationalization for not playing him.

Dude, I'm no KF apologist but seriously? Perceived fumble problem?

He has fumbled allot.
 
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hear me out, my frustration is that it seems like certain guys get a really long leash with mistakes and other guys we get comments like "he had a really bad week in practice"(CJ) and "well he hung on to the ball!!"(Akrum)

KF would never say stuff like that about one of his favorites.

I really hope Akrum doesn't stay on that short leash and get yanked the next time he fumbles because that would be a travesty.

I hope KF gives Akrum the long rope he gave Jake last season and hangs in there with him the rest of the year.

This situation is kind of like the Jake/CJ banter. yeah CJ is really special but he turns the ball over so much.

yeah well so what, CJ was/is just flat out better than Jake.
This was your post from September 2 when asked what would make you happy on that Saturday:
"Ferentz retiring and saying he is taking Greg Davis with him. hey you asked" do you think that this hatred is hindering your ability to be objective? Also do you still feel the same way as you did on September 2? Is your hatred of KF > your love for the Hawkeyes? None the less............just stop

Sincerely,
Hawkeye Fans
 
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um, they weren't going to play him at all this year if Jordan doesn't get hurt. so uh, like, good point. i guess?
You do not get it do you, if not for the staff recognizing these talents that you talk about, he would not be on the team and therefore you would be looking for something else to bitch about......Temple and Iowa are the only 2 schools to offer, that means that over 100 coaches did not see this
 
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This was your post from September 2 when asked what would make you happy on that Saturday:
"Ferentz retiring and saying he is taking Greg Davis with him. hey you asked" do you think that this hatred is hindering your ability to be objective? Also do you still feel the same way as you did on September 2? Is your hatred of KF > your love for the Hawkeyes? None the less............just stop

Sincerely,
Hawkeye Fans

A lot has changed since last season. that is great, wonderful.

I like New Kirk and have noted this several times.

if you want to talk up a stiff like Jake, and bench CJ for bs reasons, then yeah, I'm not gonna be happy.

there are analysts that say that CJ is an NFL QB prospect right now.

if some folks didn't talk some sense into KF circa the first week of January he would still be on the bench RIGHT NOW, OR, he would have transferred per his father in the Daily Tennesseean or whatever. we would have no idea what we had in CJ. With Rudock, Iowa would have lost to ISU, would have lost to Pitt, lost to Wisconsin. another 6-6 year.

thank God Kirk has changed.
 
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probably because i just witnessed a game where the defense had a hard time even getting a hand on him, much less tackling him.

his performance was really incredible and the first thing KF says is "he hung on to the ball" (ie. well yeah, he might be really special but normally he fumbles)

26 carries, no fumbles, got that part?
Because normally he does fumble. He fumbled a lot last year too when he was doing well otherwise. His talent his obvious. His fumbling has been too. Why is it hard for you to understand that is why he hasn't been playing? Tiki Barber almost fumbled his way out of the NFL. Ameer Abdullah is right now in the doghouse with the Detroit Lions because he has fumbled 3 times in 2 weeks. Ball security is important to coaches even if it is not important to you. Was Canzeri doing so bad that Wadley deserved the chance to get some of his carries?
 
Because normally he does fumble. He fumbled a lot last year too when he was doing well otherwise. His talent his obvious. His fumbling has been too. Why is it hard for you to understand that is why he hasn't been playing? Tiki Barber almost fumbled his way out of the NFL. Ameer Abdullah is right now in the doghouse with the Detroit Lions because he has fumbled 3 times in 2 weeks. Ball security is important to coaches even if it is not important to you. Was Canzeri doing so bad that Wadley deserved the chance to get some of his carries?

fair enough, good points. Canzeri didn't do anything wrong, he just isn't as talented as Wadley in my opinion and should have gotten to play more sooner. If Jordan stayed healthy the rest of the year we might not have seen Akrum at all.

i pray he doesn't get benched if he fumbles, all backs fumble. all of them.
 
fair enough, good points. Canzeri didn't do anything wrong, he just isn't as talented as Wadley in my opinion and should have gotten to play more sooner. If Jordan stayed healthy the rest of the year we might not have seen Akrum at all.

i pray he doesn't get benched if he fumbles, all backs fumble. all of them.
What would be an unacceptable fumble to carry ratio?
 
A lot has changed since last season. that is great, wonderful.

I like New Kirk and have noted this several times.

if you want to talk up a stiff like Jake, and bench CJ for bs reasons, then yeah, I'm not gonna be happy.

there are analysts that say that CJ is an NFL QB prospect right now.

if some folks didn't talk some sense into KF circa the first week of January he would still be on the bench RIGHT NOW, OR, he would have transferred per his father in the Daily Tennesseean or whatever. we would have no idea what we had in CJ. With Rudock, Iowa would have lost to ISU, would have lost to Pitt, lost to Wisconsin. another 6-6 year.

thank God Kirk has changed.
Here are some other notable quotes from you:
When asked Iowa's over under 7.5
"Under. Iowa will struggle against bad teams. Iowa will consistently run on 2nd and 11 and 2nd and 12. also, more three yard flat routes when we need 7 or 8. BAU" you better hope Iowa loses out

Another dandy in regard to ISU game this year:
"here's my prediction:
Iowa @ Ames, Iowa will be a 12.5 point favorite. there will be an equivalent number of iowa fans who say A) Iowa will cover that easy and B) there's no way Iowa could/would/should lose this game to this terrible team/program.
Iowa comes out and plays tight, more wallets are stolen, and Iowa loses 13-27 to ISU.
National title hopes in Hawkeye land are dashed, some more fans jump ship.
Kirk collects $77,000 for his pay the week of the game and laughs, "well heck, That's Football."
Iowa falls to 3-6 in Ames under Ferentz, his loyal defenders vigorously support him anyways.
nothing changes.."

And here is you OL prediction for this year:
"The OL is by no means undersized?! What planet do you live on?
the depth chart has both OT listed at 300 pounds, those numbers are fudged so they are probably in the 280-290 range in reality.
this may be the smallest O Line since 2000. Unless the Ferentz have some miracle potion the OL is in serious trouble.
the 2015 WR core aside from Smith may be the weakest in the league. Where would Vandenberg play on OSU? MSU? 6th team?
Denial aint just a river in Egypt, pal. If we struggle to push around mid major cream puffs AGAIN this fall it will be quite telling how the season will go. Remember the feeling of complete ineptness in the Ball State game for 55 minutes. or the ENTIRE Minnesota & LSU games? yeah. more of the same. Iowa was very fortunate not to play OSU last year or this year again."

How did your predictions turn out?!?!?!?! Pretty much the definition of a Troll! I can grab some more if you would like, your comments are like Wadley fumbles, you just can not deny they happened and you can not take them back
 
Here are some other notable quotes from you:
When asked Iowa's over under 7.5
"Under. Iowa will struggle against bad teams. Iowa will consistently run on 2nd and 11 and 2nd and 12. also, more three yard flat routes when we need 7 or 8. BAU" you better hope Iowa loses out

Another dandy in regard to ISU game this year:
"here's my prediction:
Iowa @ Ames, Iowa will be a 12.5 point favorite. there will be an equivalent number of iowa fans who say A) Iowa will cover that easy and B) there's no way Iowa could/would/should lose this game to this terrible team/program.
Iowa comes out and plays tight, more wallets are stolen, and Iowa loses 13-27 to ISU.
National title hopes in Hawkeye land are dashed, some more fans jump ship.
Kirk collects $77,000 for his pay the week of the game and laughs, "well heck, That's Football."
Iowa falls to 3-6 in Ames under Ferentz, his loyal defenders vigorously support him anyways.
nothing changes.."

And here is you OL prediction for this year:
"The OL is by no means undersized?! What planet do you live on?
the depth chart has both OT listed at 300 pounds, those numbers are fudged so they are probably in the 280-290 range in reality.
this may be the smallest O Line since 2000. Unless the Ferentz have some miracle potion the OL is in serious trouble.
the 2015 WR core aside from Smith may be the weakest in the league. Where would Vandenberg play on OSU? MSU? 6th team?
Denial aint just a river in Egypt, pal. If we struggle to push around mid major cream puffs AGAIN this fall it will be quite telling how the season will go. Remember the feeling of complete ineptness in the Ball State game for 55 minutes. or the ENTIRE Minnesota & LSU games? yeah. more of the same. Iowa was very fortunate not to play OSU last year or this year again."

How did your predictions turn out?!?!?!?! Pretty much the definition of a Troll! I can grab some more if you would like, your comments are like Wadley fumbles, you just can not deny they happened and you can not take them back
Good lord....the dude is definitely a troll.
 
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