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Here are some other notable quotes from you:
When asked Iowa's over under 7.5
"Under. Iowa will struggle against bad teams. Iowa will consistently run on 2nd and 11 and 2nd and 12. also, more three yard flat routes when we need 7 or 8. BAU" you better hope Iowa loses out

Another dandy in regard to ISU game this year:
"here's my prediction:
Iowa @ Ames, Iowa will be a 12.5 point favorite. there will be an equivalent number of iowa fans who say A) Iowa will cover that easy and B) there's no way Iowa could/would/should lose this game to this terrible team/program.
Iowa comes out and plays tight, more wallets are stolen, and Iowa loses 13-27 to ISU.
National title hopes in Hawkeye land are dashed, some more fans jump ship.
Kirk collects $77,000 for his pay the week of the game and laughs, "well heck, That's Football."
Iowa falls to 3-6 in Ames under Ferentz, his loyal defenders vigorously support him anyways.
nothing changes.."

And here is you OL prediction for this year:
"The OL is by no means undersized?! What planet do you live on?
the depth chart has both OT listed at 300 pounds, those numbers are fudged so they are probably in the 280-290 range in reality.
this may be the smallest O Line since 2000. Unless the Ferentz have some miracle potion the OL is in serious trouble.
the 2015 WR core aside from Smith may be the weakest in the league. Where would Vandenberg play on OSU? MSU? 6th team?
Denial aint just a river in Egypt, pal. If we struggle to push around mid major cream puffs AGAIN this fall it will be quite telling how the season will go. Remember the feeling of complete ineptness in the Ball State game for 55 minutes. or the ENTIRE Minnesota & LSU games? yeah. more of the same. Iowa was very fortunate not to play OSU last year or this year again."

How did your predictions turn out?!?!?!?! Pretty much the definition of a Troll! I can grab some more if you would like, your comments are like Wadley fumbles, you just can not deny they happened and you can not take them back

Nearly everything from last year has changed, thank God. those predictions were predicated on the previous 5 years of coaching, how could you blame someone for being pessimistic after watching the last half decade? which year of the previous 5 years would those comments not been accurate for? 2013 only i guess.

Most notably what has changed is that Iowa have a pretty darn good QB, even when he is playing injured he is better than Jake R.

thank God some folks stood up to KF and got him the starting spot with an unprecedented two deep release.
 
probably because i just witnessed a game where the defense had a hard time even getting a hand on him, much less tackling him.

his performance was really incredible and the first thing KF says is "he hung on to the ball" (ie. well yeah, he might be really special but normally he fumbles)

26 carries, no fumbles, got that part?

As always, you are incorrect. As I pointed out on another thread, he fumbled the ball going across the goal line on his 3rd TD run, but he landed on the ball. I'm sure this will get brought up in film to him.
The correct statement would be: 'He didn't LOSE any fumbles'.
You suffer from cognitive dissonance about as bad as anyone I've ever seen. And it is really prevalent in todays world.
 
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You guys realize that wadley had carries in the northwestern game before canzeri got hurt. Wadley wouldn't have gotten as many carries but KF put him in the game plan. Doesn't sound like a "short leash"
 
OP, no, just...no.

This game showed me plenty.

This is a completely different team with a completely different offense(QB) than last year.

They went into a B12 road enviornment with a raucous fan base and team that expected to win and gutted out the W with many many many clutch plays. Last year's team did NOT have that gear.

Revising season outlook after this game to 9-3 from 6-6. 1 game as in they won vs. ISU, think they will beat Pitt now and 1 more in league play.

This will be a fun season. See you in FL on Jan 1.

posted by: Phenomenally Frantastic,Sep 12, 2015

you were saying?
 
You guys realize that wadley had carries in the northwestern game before canzeri got hurt. Wadley wouldn't have gotten as many carries but KF put him in the game plan. Doesn't sound like a "short leash"
It's only one poster that you need to be speaking too, the same poster that has had a history of being completely and utterly wrong, unwarranted KF bashing, bashing this team, and continued bashing of KF and staff even after 7-0 and 12th ranking
 
You guys realize that wadley had carries in the northwestern game before canzeri got hurt. Wadley wouldn't have gotten as many carries but KF put him in the game plan. Doesn't sound like a "short leash"

No I did not know that, thanks for sharing that. Being at the game and being high up in the stands it was hard to tell who was in and out play to play. It is good to know he got PT before Jordan got hurt, rather encouraging really.
 
All I am saying is your hatred for KF is really blinding your reality, you were just blasting KF for not playing a back who fumbles every 12th carry....constant pessimism is just not fun for anybody...and it is really getting old....look how awesome this board has been and getting better every week bc all the posters this summer have no BS to harp on and they are away (for now)
 
Well, that is the point of this thread. He fortunately didn't fumble, despite poor form. If he doesn't clean it up, the fumbles will return. Obviously Kirk still has the same concern.

A lot of things MIGHT happen, and those things could be very good. We could analyze a few cuts and missed tackles highlighting a running back's performance and stat line (and vision) from last Saturday. Seems that would be the thread based on reality, and not one based on negative conjecture. Akrum Wadley didn't fumble in the Northwestern game.

I too, hope he doesn't fumble going forward, and I'm comfortable knowing that he is working on that part of his game. I'll support him, especially knowing he is likely Iowa's starting back for the next few games.
 
fair enough, good points. Canzeri didn't do anything wrong, he just isn't as talented as Wadley in my opinion and should have gotten to play more sooner. If Jordan stayed healthy the rest of the year we might not have seen Akrum at all.

i pray he doesn't get benched if he fumbles, all backs fumble. all of them.

I don't know how Daniels won the starting job coming into the season, because I haven't seen anything out of him that would lead me to believe he is better in any regard than Canzeri, who WAS finally healthy and hitting his stride until this ankle sprain. Coming out of HS he was known to be fast, but had been hobbled his entire career - and was finally proving it when he couldn't be caught by the fastest DBs on the final straight-away chase part of his 75 yard TD against Illinois. Canzeri sees the cutback lanes MUCH better than Daniels - who is more of the "power" back that KF likes.

Now with regard to Wadley: He did a great job Saturday, but even after that performance I haven't seen ANYTHING yet that would lead me to believe he should have been playing over a healthy Canzeri. Jury is still out.
 
All I am saying is your hatred for KF is really blinding your reality, you were just blasting KF for not playing a back who fumbles every 12th carry....constant pessimism is just not fun for anybody...and it is really getting old....look how awesome this board has been and getting better every week bc all the posters this summer have no BS to harp on and they are away (for now)

Maybe you are right....I am hard on Kirk, but I don't hate Kirk.

Is it possible that some of his coaching decisions leave room for improvement and refinement and that some, (any?) criticism is warranted?

is that also possible? or not?
 
All I am saying is your hatred for KF is really blinding your reality, you were just blasting KF for not playing a back who fumbles every 12th carry....constant pessimism is just not fun for anybody...and it is really getting old....look how awesome this board has been and getting better every week bc all the posters this summer have no BS to harp on and they are away (for now)

ps. is saying(immediately post ISU game) this will be a fun season and we will go to a January bowl game fit within your definition of constant pessimism?
 
Maybe you are right....I am hard on Akrum, but I don't hate Akrum.

Is it possible that his ball security to date leaves room for improvement and refinement thus putting him behind Canzeri?

is that also possible? or not?

Maybe, if it weren't all directed at Kirk. Would you also then agree with my edit?
 
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Maybe you are right....I am hard on Kirk, but I don't hate Kirk.

Is it possible that some of his coaching decisions leave room for improvement and refinement and that some, (any?) criticism is warranted?

is that also possible? or not?

Who is to say you are correct in that the areas you deem worthy of your input and the staff's correction are the right ones?

It is indeed proper to call in your prior posting past to indicate whether your current posts are valid or not. You pretty much whiffed on half of Iowa's season so far, what makes you believe you're correct now?
 
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A lot of things MIGHT happen, and those things could be very good. We could analyze a few cuts and missed tackles highlighting a running back's performance and stat line (and vision) from last Saturday. Seems that would be the thread based on reality, and not one based on negative conjecture. Akrum Wadley didn't fumble in the Northwestern game.

This thread is entirely based on reality, the photographic evidence of poor ball security. I'm as optimistic as anyone around here, but I guarantee you the coaches are on him about it.

He is a great talent. Ball security is his main hurdle, but he has a bright future.
 
Maybe you are right....I am hard on Kirk, but I don't hate Kirk.

Is it possible that some of his coaching decisions leave room for improvement and refinement and that some, (any?) criticism is warranted?

is that also possible? or not?
This I can agree with, sure there are coaching decisions that need improvement and that is valid...but if you can cast so much blame shouldn't you balance that with some credit when it is due. Heck even coaches at the highest level make mistakes, you did see the Colt's punt formation
 
hear me out, my frustration is that it seems like certain guys get a really long leash with mistakes and other guys we get comments like "he had a really bad week in practice"(CJ) and "well he hung on to the ball!!"(Akrum)

KF would never say stuff like that about one of his favorites.

I really hope Akrum doesn't stay on that short leash and get yanked the next time he fumbles because that would be a travesty.

I hope KF gives Akrum the long rope he gave Jake last season and hangs in there with him the rest of the year.

This situation is kind of like the Jake/CJ banter. yeah CJ is really special but he turns the ball over so much.

yeah well so what, CJ was/is just flat out better than Jake.
Watch his HS highlight film.
Look at his history of fumbles.
Look at his poor ball security in the JNW game (see pics) While you are correct, he didn't have any fumbles saturday, reality and chances are not on his side with that ball security.

Look at his quotes as well as coaches quotes about his weight. I will paraphrase: "When guys don't make their weight goals it's due to several factors; lack of proper rest/sleep and what they are and aren't putting in their body."

It goes back to trust.

Sure, he is extremely talented. Everyone knows it. Hopefully he makes the off=season commitment to fix the 2 things holding him back.
 
Regardless of what those frozen photos might say to you, if you look at the video, you'll see a player concerned with ball security. It's probably more telling because it's, you know, video of those same plays in real time. Why are you guys insistent on criticizing this performance--with no fumbles?

1:17-1:18 Two hands on the ball as he moves through the line.
1:30 Securing the ball high and tight
1:33 - woooOOP
1:57 (2:13) - Ball secured high and tight through the line
2:31 - One big time cut. Not many players make that move. Only mistake on the play, is that he didn't take the outside on the last guy. He probably would have scored.



Haters gonna hate.
 
how do you know that if he doesn't ever play?

follow me here....let's say Jordan never gets hurt this year and Akrum never saw the field again after North Texas.

only to find out next season we had a home run back on the team and he was languishing on the bench because of some perceived (not perceived, it was well documented) fumble problem?

doesn't the fact that he didn't fumble (he did fumble, he just didn't lose it) kind of throw a wrench in the well he doesn't play because he fumbles excuse?

reality =/= rationalization for not playing him.

Us fans have seen him play. He had over 100 yards against NW last season. Us fans knew he can run the ball. He had fumble issues. Us fans saw that in games. What us fans didn't see is his ball security in practice. I don't think he was holding on to the ball much in practice either when I hear KFs comments. He had a helluva game last Saturday. Hopefully he continues to play at a high level because he is our only shifty, home run threat at RB until Canzeri returns.
 
Maybe you are right....I am hard on Kirk, but I don't hate Kirk.

Is it possible that some of his coaching decisions leave room for improvement and refinement and that some, (any?) criticism is warranted?

is that also possible? or not?

Not by you! You are in no way qualified to criticize coaching decisions any more than I am qualified to criticize a neurologist. Just because you watch a game and play fantasy football doesn't mean you have a clue about how to run a program, how to judge talent and grade out positions, how to break down film, how to scheme and game plan an opponent, etc.etc.etc...Nada, notta, nil.....I can see why some of you like playing fantasy football....because you live in a fantasy world and think that you know more about football than professional coaches and you are qualified to criticize them. Not winning enough for you, make your feelings known to the administration or find someone else to cheer for, otherwise, just watch the games, cheer on your team(s) and try to LEARN something from people who do know what they are talking about. You'll be a much happier person!
P.S. The world doesn't revolve around your little feelings.
 
Not by you! You are in no way qualified to criticize coaching decisions any more than I am qualified to criticize a neurologist. Just because you watch a game and play fantasy football doesn't mean you have a clue about how to run a program, how to judge talent and grade out positions, how to break down film, how to scheme and game plan an opponent, etc.etc.etc...Nada, notta, nil.....I can see why some of you like playing fantasy football....because you live in a fantasy world and think that you know more about football than professional coaches and you are qualified to criticize them. Not winning enough for you, make your feelings known to the administration or find someone else to cheer for, otherwise, just watch the games, cheer on your team(s) and try to LEARN something from people who do know what they are talking about. You'll be a much happier person!
P.S. The world doesn't revolve around your little feelings.
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How do you know that?

I could tell after 1 half of 1 game that CJ was better that Jake, Kirk did not. Even with all that practice and film time Kirk could not and did not figure it out.

So I have that going for me.
 
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Since you will not admit your hatred of KF, even when we are 12th ranked 7-0 football team. I will admit that you and a few other posters constant ridicule of KF (even when completely unwarranted) is getting super old....I am sure I am not the only one who thinks that.....Criticizing KF for not playing a RB who has fumbled every 12th carry is on the top ten list for garbage post......I too saw the speed, agility, and vision against NW, so credit to the coaching staff for being one of two D1 programs for seeing that as well...Furthermore, KF and staff have obviously pushed the right buttons all year and have a tremendous pulse of this team right now hence 7-0
Simple solution. Let him carry the ball 23 times a game. That knocks the math down to 1 fumble, and maybe we recover. With what he brings to the table, I'm good with that. That said, love Canzeri, hope he gets back quickly. He's earned it.
 
The thing is...the reasons you believed CJ was better than Rudock are probably not the sole reasons Kirk went to CJ ultimately. To say "I knew after one game that CJ was better" does not support the fact that you therefore are always correct in typical/similar situations.

I don't ever post any opinion on this board where I position myself as an expert over the coaches. I'm smart enough to know they they know infinitely more about football, and infinitely more about the players on the squad - than I ever will.

Now, does that mean we are not supposed to criticize the coaches? Hail no. I am saying that you damn well be pretty certain in proving your reasons why you think they should do this or that, because when it gets right down to it, you see 1/1000th of the evidence they see. In addition, if you predict something that winds up not being close to the truth, not acknowledging you were wrong immediately paints you into the position that all you are here to do is to criticize and lends us to believe that this is your chief motivation here.

That, you chose. Live with it. Just don't be surprised posters question your points with equally valid points. Neither side truly knows the truth...but one thing I do know - the most likely people that do know the truth are the coaches.


There is a damn good reason why Wadley wasn't playing over Canzeri, and that was most likely ball security as the leading reason. The numbers prove that out, and the coach's comment supports that. To state unequivocally that Wadley should be playing over Canzeri merely based upon what we have seen from two games total that Wadley has starred in is not taking into account ALL the facts that lend to the decision coaches made regarding who ultimately was playing.

Coaches expect a "reasonable predictability of output" based upon practice and games, and all the little things we as fans are never privy to. Outwardly, we see fumbles in limited usage comparing one to another. Given the comment Kirk made, and what we have seen, one can reasonably assume, what we've seen in games is probably supported also by what we don't get to see.

You might be correct, then again, you might be incorrect. We shall see. Wadley will get yet another opportunity to prove us all wrong...or right.

One last thing...nobody here supports not playing the best guy for the job. All we are saying is that logic tends to dictate that there's probably a damn good reason(s) why he wasn't. That applies to CJ/Rudock. that applies to Willies/rest of the WR's, that applies to that idiotic thread about Scheel a couple weeks ago, and that applies to Wadley/Canzeri.
 
Darrell Wilson recruited Akrum Wadley and is no longer on the staff.
Ummm no he didn't....Akrum was a 2013 commit and verbal led the day before signing day....Wilson was gone after disastrous 2012 season and is now at Rutgers....in fact Wilson was done recruiting b4 the Nebby game that year, I took 3 players for that game and the coaches were brutal (they were on their way out).....I've been back since with new staff, they are fantastic...best group I've dealt with in all honesty
 
The thing is...the reasons you believed CJ was better than Rudock are probably not the sole reasons Kirk went to CJ ultimately. To say "I knew after one game that CJ was better" does not support the fact that you therefore are always correct in typical/similar situations.

I don't ever post any opinion on this board where I position myself as an expert over the coaches. I'm smart enough to know they they know infinitely more about football, and infinitely more about the players on the squad - than I ever will.

Now, does that mean we are not supposed to criticize the coaches? Hail no. I am saying that you damn well be pretty certain in proving your reasons why you think they should do this or that, because when it gets right down to it, you see 1/1000th of the evidence they see. In addition, if you predict something that winds up not being close to the truth, not acknowledging you were wrong immediately paints you into the position that all you are here to do is to criticize and lends us to believe that this is your chief motivation here.

That, you chose. Live with it. Just don't be surprised posters question your points with equally valid points. Neither side truly knows the truth...but one thing I do know - the most likely people that do know the truth are the coaches.


There is a damn good reason why Wadley wasn't playing over Canzeri, and that was most likely ball security as the leading reason. The numbers prove that out, and the coach's comment supports that. To state unequivocally that Wadley should be playing over Canzeri merely based upon what we have seen from two games total that Wadley has starred in is not taking into account ALL the facts that lend to the decision coaches made regarding who ultimately was playing.

Coaches expect a "reasonable predictability of output" based upon practice and games, and all the little things we as fans are never privy to. Outwardly, we see fumbles in limited usage comparing one to another. Given the comment Kirk made, and what we have seen, one can reasonably assume, what we've seen in games is probably supported also by what we don't get to see.

You might be correct, then again, you might be incorrect. We shall see. Wadley will get yet another opportunity to prove us all wrong...or right.

One last thing...nobody here supports not playing the best guy for the job. All we are saying is that logic tends to dictate that there's probably a damn good reason(s) why he wasn't. That applies to CJ/Rudock. that applies to Willies/rest of the WR's, that applies to that idiotic thread about Scheel a couple weeks ago, and that applies to Wadley/Canzeri.
Pretty much this....however, I will say that I don't want or think the Wad to/will fumble.....merely was saying his history of fumbling warranted a 3rd string status
 
That's 3 different backs over 100 yards and 2 over 200.....the Wad said it himself "anybody can run behind our line" maybe some props to our line and the coaches that coach that position....BF and KF!
 
Anyone that remotely follows Iowa Football knows this young man has the talent to play RB in the B1G but his problem is that he can't hang on to the ball. When asked about Wadley post game the first think out of KF's mouth was 'he hung on to the ball which was good.'
Yah he said that...and btw he used to answer half of questions about CJB with a Rudock reference...yes AW has fumbled and at a rate i'd be nervous about...but a few three-and-outs due to using guys who aren't effective is bad as a fumble imo...
 
Ummm no he didn't....Akrum was a 2013 commit and verbal led the day before signing day....Wilson was gone after disastrous 2012 season and is now at Rutgers....in fact Wilson was done recruiting b4 the Nebby game that year, I took 3 players for that game and the coaches were brutal (they were on their way out).....I've been back since with new staff, they are fantastic...best group I've dealt with in all honesty

did you think everyone on this board was too lazy to look up his recruiting profile?

or is Rivals incorrect here?

Iowa COMMITTED (02/03/2013) Offered 02/01/2013 Darrell Wilson

http://sports.yahoo.com/iowa/football/recruiting/player-Akrum-Wadley-146643
 
Ummm no he didn't....Akrum was a 2013 commit and verbal led the day before signing day....Wilson was gone after disastrous 2012 season and is now at Rutgers....in fact Wilson was done recruiting b4 the Nebby game that year, I took 3 players for that game and the coaches were brutal (they were on their way out).....I've been back since with new staff, they are fantastic...best group I've dealt with in all honesty

you also understand that recruiting is essentially in the home stretch over christmas through signing day, ie the last few months Wilson could have been on the staff and even if and when he was canned he would have been the main point of contact for Iowa and the advocate to extend Akrum a scholarship. but you are the resident everything iowa football expert so you knew all this already.
 
probably because i just witnessed a game where the defense had a hard time even getting a hand on him, much less tackling him.

his performance was really incredible and the first thing KF says is "he hung on to the ball" (ie. well yeah, he might be really special but normally he fumbles)

26 carries, no fumbles, got that part?

Well then - guess the oline will just have to make sure no one touches him and problem solved.
 
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Game one Wadley played, he was a stud, game two, I think he fumbled like 2 of three carries. Then he doesn't see the field again until the Hawks have no choice. Greg Davis has already said prior that Wadley has the most talent of all the backs, but he has ball security issues. None of us go to practice, my guess is he has ball security issues in practice, hence the reason he is not playing in the games. I would love to see this kid playing a lot with his talent, and I hope he has corrected the fumbling problems. He has earned the right to get some more playing time, and hopefully he take full advantage of it. You know, I remember back when my kid was playing JV football. They had one hell of a RB on his team. He probably rushed for 200 yards a game, but I swear he put the ball on the ground at least 5 times a game. I know people seem to see KF conspiracies everywhere, but I doubt we can pin this kids ball security on him. Nice try. Lets move on to the next conspiracy.
 
Canzeri has good speed but Wadleys probably a step or two faster from the looks of it.
I have to disagree. Wadley is much quicker out of his cuts, which I think is a much better attribute than top end speed, but when Canzeri let it go on that run against Illinois it was pretty impressive.
 
did you think everyone on this board was too lazy to look up his recruiting profile?

or is Rivals incorrect here?

Iowa COMMITTED (02/03/2013) Offered 02/01/2013 Darrell Wilson

http://sports.yahoo.com/iowa/football/recruiting/player-Akrum-Wadley-146643
New Jersey was in his recruiting region at the time, he was hired by Rutgers in February of 2013....rivals may have credited him with it but he was well aware he would not be coaching at Iowa well before signing day
 
Wilson didn't leave until Feb 13th.

http://www.nj.com/rutgers/index.ssf/2013/02/rutgers_names_darrell_wilson_n.html

Wilson was the recruiter on staff for the state of New Jersey.

Akrum is from New Jersey and committed on Feb 3.

care to revise anything there friend?
Not at all my friend, As I said I took players to unofficial for Nebby game when it was cold as shit in 2012....long story short Trust me coach Wilson was not doing any recruiting for Iowa
 
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