Warner lost for one reason
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Bad coaching on that actually no coaching let him make the call.
There have been several head scratchers this season. That is just the latest.
There were three or so really dumb coaching decisions in this one that did not put our guys in the best position to win. That is really freaking disappointing.
Don’t go down on Weigel and why the heck are we riding in 3rd with 3 min of ride time locked. The guy is gassed... take him down on his feet. Unbelievable.
Don’t go down on Weigel and why the heck are we riding in 3rd with 3 min of ride time locked. The guy is gassed... take him down on his feet. Unbelievable.
Well he also had zero takedowns and his ride was not good. So hardly "only."
I liked his lungs. Showed some growth I thought despite not getting out.
I liked his lungs. Showed some growth I thought despite not getting out.
What are we gonna do brother Bluto .. gotta crawl before you walk. I like to see Warner with the “I want this attitude” gonna get him next time.
I did like Warner’s tank and that was an explosive *almost* takedown. Need to see more of it. Again though, match strategy was pathetic.
I didn't mind Warner going down in the second but not cutting him was not cool.
He has been winning by riding guys the entire year. I was okay with giving it a try. The reversal is on Warner and not the coaches.
This is where I’m at. He wore his ass out from bottom and was in prime position to take that match in the 3rd. I think maybe he was trying to get Weigel dinged with another stall call or caution then cut him. I think Warner sensed the match was going his way and dropped his guard when he allowed the reversal. Still, that’s a match Warner will most likely win in March.
He was not going to win by riding him there.
You know what - Warner had some confidence and thought he could get away. Also, he is good on top and probably figured lets see if I can turn this tired opponent. Also, he probably figured this is a good way to get some information in case I wrestle him in March. Sometimes learning comes with a loss. I love that he had the guts to take bottom and the heart to try to turn him. Just because he lost does not mean it was poor strategy. It just did not work out (this time).
Can we just admit these guys aren't supermen and tone down the 4 timer expectations?
Weigel was gassed. I like Warner's chances from neutral there if he safe rides for a minute and then pushes hard for the TD. Weigel had no stall calls to spare. Agreed with OP that it wasn't a smart 3rd period by Warner. He would have been ok to ride the first part of the period, but he can't get high looking for a cheap junk tilt.
You knew this how? Half the matches he has won since midlands is because of his top game. He would have still had a chance to get a td if he didn’t get reversed. That’s on him
Riding out a ranked guy - if you’re not a leg staller - is heroic. Cutting a guy and getting a TD is simply getting the job done.
The best chance of winning was to cut him and get your TD.
I think the statement about Iowa fans backing off thy he expectations is a sound one.
I hope the kids themselves have those high standards, but not even Lee could live up to the preseason expectations that many had.
He probably is a 4/5 seed right now at nationals.
Nobody thought that was possible preseason.
I am planning to go to PA. Had been to about 30 straight but work kept .e away for the last 7 or 8.
I will support them! All I want to see as a fan is effort. Everything else will fall into place.
I hope the kids themselves have those high standards, but not even Lee could live up to the preseason expectations that many had.
He probably is a 4/5 seed right now at nationals.
Nobody thought that was possible preseason.
I am planning to go to PA. Had been to about 30 straight but work kept .e away for the last 7 or 8.
I will support them! All I want to see as a fan is effort. Everything else will fall into place.
I also would have cut him. Completely agree. That wasn't what I disagreed with.
Opinion and not as straight forward as you’re suggesting. It’s not an unreasonable choice, but neither was the decision made.
He got taken down, reversed, and ponied.
The only thing keeping him in the match were penalty points.
The only thing keeping him in the match were penalty points.
The biggest problem I see with the Hawks is they either wrestle scared or too conservative ( however you want to phrase it). Warner comes out and wrestles with some confidence and goes for a tilt and gets reversed. Good for him for going for it. That attitude is more important than winning dual. For what it is worth, Venz lost in the third going for a tilt against Cash. Lets see how that plays out. A kid who is going for it in February is much better in March than a kid who is just trying to win by being conservative. Sure Warner lost, but my hat is off to him for showing heart and fight and courage. He is moving in the right direction. IMHO!
Agreed that I liked his confidence today. I just think he takes that match if he cuts himself. Better now than in the post season as you're said.
Weigel has been out for quite awhile. His shape may better later.
He actually shot today as did Young and Murin. Keep that up!
He actually shot today as did Young and Murin. Keep that up!
