Washington State has hired S. Dakota State's Jimmy Rogers to a 5-year deal. He'll average $1.57M/year

[Franisdaman]

And to think it was not that long ago when Washington State was part of a power conference.

Too bad there was not a $2M cap on all college coaches.

Wash. State hires SDSU's Rogers on 5-year deal

Washington State has hired South Dakota State's Jimmy Rogers to a five-year deal as the Cougars' next head coach, the school announced Saturday.

www.espn.com

 

[hawkdave007]

And to think it was not that long ago when Washington State was part of a power conference.

Too bad there was not a $2M cap on all college coaches.

Wash. State hires SDSU's Rogers on 5-year deal

Washington State has hired South Dakota State's Jimmy Rogers to a five-year deal as the Cougars' next head coach, the school announced Saturday.

www.espn.com

Rogers is set to make an average of $1.57 million per year, sources told ESPN.



Probably tripled his salary. Even still, that's "dirt cheap" for an FBS school, anymore.

 

[HawkLogic]

Yes, I would agree with OP, revenue sharing Percentage or salary cap for coaching staffs. Somethings need to be done to level playing field, but probably won't happen.

 

[bradaf]

Yes, I would agree with OP, revenue sharing Percentage or salary cap for coaching staffs. Somethings need to be done to level playing field, but probably won't happen.

While I understand the frustration with coaches salaries, I wonder how this board will feel a couple of years from now when Ferentz retires. I am guessing that we would look at a coach like Rodgers if he is successful at WSU and offer him $8+ million. I am guessing Big 12 and ACC salaries will begin to lag the Big 10 and SEC and their best coaches will get poached as their revenue does not come close to the big two.

 

[Doodads and Hoohah]

While I understand the frustration with coaches salaries, I wonder how this board will feel a couple of years from now when Ferentz retires. I am guessing that we would look at a coach like Rodgers if he is successful at WSU and offer him $8+ million. I am guessing Big 12 and ACC salaries will begin to lag the Big 10 and SEC and their best coaches will get poached as their revenue does not come close to the big two.

Yeah KFs replacement will be making just as much or more as KF.

 

[Hawk_4shur]

Yes, I would agree with OP, revenue sharing Percentage or salary cap for coaching staffs. Somethings need to be done to level playing field, but probably won't happen.

I've thought coaches were overpaid for a couple of decades now, but it's really getting ridiculous.

Way before NIL, I thought college athletic programs should pay a pseudo-tax to the school. For example -

$0 - $75 million - 0%
$75 - $100 million - 10%
$100 - $150 million - 15%
Over $150 million - 20%

So, what's Iowa's revenue, $175 million? Iowa would pay a $15 million "tax" to the school's general fund. It probably should be higher.

Something like this might help level the playing field. and actually help public education.

 

[hawkjt]

The Iowa athletic dept already owes school general fund 50 million which they will struggle to pay off.
Now, up to 23 million will be going to student athletes starting next year.
The huge windfall of media revenue for BIG schools will be eaten up in no time.

 

[ClarindaA's]

The Iowa athletic dept already owes school general fund 50 million which they will struggle to pay off.
Now, up to 23 million will be going to student athletes starting next year.
The huge windfall of media revenue for BIG schools will be eaten up in no time.

Can I ask why the athletic department owes that much?

 

[uihawk82]

Can I ask why the athletic department owes that much?

Others know more but I think it goes back to the covid year with no ticket, parking, and concessions revenue. Losing 7 home game ticket sales ( I assumed they lost that money) at about $55 a game is about $25 million, also lost parking and concessions, lost bball ticket revenue. There wasnt near as much TV revenue that year because of only 8 games,

 

[ClarindaA's]

Others know more but I think it goes back to the covid year with no ticket, parking, and concessions revenue. Losing 7 home game ticket sales ( I assumed they lost that money) at about $55 a game is about $25 million, also lost parking and concessions, lost bball ticket revenue. There wasnt near as much TV revenue that year because of only 8 games,

So that won’t be a recurring expense

 

[yrunvs]

So that won’t be a recurring expense

Not if we can help it.

 

[uihawk82]

So that won’t be a recurring expense

Correct. But again, I cant remember exactly what the Athl Dept did or had to do with 2020 football season ticket sales. Usually most season tickets are renewed by March but by August or before it was known there would be no regular season game attendance except for family I believe. Did the Athl Dept refund all ticket sales, did they give fans a chance to just move their ticket sales to the 2021 season (which would still mean losing a lot of ticket sales), or some other decision.

I had stopped buying tickets in 2019 so I cant remember what happened.

You could start a thread asking how the Athl Dept came to owe the Univ $50 when they had been operating in the black for years, one of small number of schools that did.

 

[joelbc1]

And to think it was not that long ago when Washington State was part of a power conference.

Too bad there was not a $2M cap on all college coaches.

Wash. State hires SDSU's Rogers on 5-year deal

Washington State has hired South Dakota State's Jimmy Rogers to a five-year deal as the Cougars' next head coach, the school announced Saturday.

www.espn.com

Why?
No is “overpaid” in a free capitalistic economy. Why should coaches be exempt from this?

 

[BrotherHawkeye]

The new PAC 12 will not be a power conference. If Washington State becomes one of the best teams in the conference and wins 9 - 11 games a year, do you think their fans will care that they aren’t in a power conference? Would you?

 

[joelbc1]

I've thought coaches were overpaid for a couple of decades now, but it's really getting ridiculous.

Way before NIL, I thought college athletic programs should pay a pseudo-tax to the school. For example -

$0 - $75 million - 0%
$75 - $100 million - 10%
$100 - $150 million - 15%
Over $150 million - 20%

So, what's Iowa's revenue, $175 million? Iowa would pay a $15 million "tax" to the school's general fund. It probably should be higher.

Something like this might help level the playing field. and actually help public education.

Why should the Athletic Department do the work of the state Board of Regents or state Legislature?

 

[Hawk_4shur]

Why should the Athletic Department do the work of the state Board of Regents or state Legislature?

That's one way to look at it. I just look at it as a way to share revenue with the school. Iowa wouldn't even have an athletic department if it weren't for, you know, the University of Iowa. Why doesn't the school get to get paid for it's Name, Image and Likeness?

 

[TXHCHawk]

That's one way to look at it. I just look at it as a way to share revenue with the school. Iowa wouldn't even have an athletic department if it weren't for, you know, the University of Iowa. Why doesn't the school get to get paid for it's Name, Image and Likeness?

In a way, they already do. Do football revenues only go to football? What funds the other sports? I don’t know if it is still the case, but football revenues supported the band in some fashion for years. Others, I’m sure know more.

I’m sorry, but football, at least at IOWA, has done their part for a long time. The universities have had enough help from expanded student loans over the years, compliments of the government, to enable tuition increases that far surpass COL and inflation rates. In fact, to the point where many believe it’s their right to not repay their loan contracts.

But alas, the shared misery crowd always lifts their head and proposes new taxes, funded by others, to cover for these consequences, which were already funded by others.

 

[Hawk_4shur]

In a way, they already do. Do football revenues only go to football? What funds the other sports? I don’t know if it is still the case, but football revenues supported the band in some fashion for years. Others, I’m sure know more.

I’m sorry, but football, at least at IOWA, has done their part for a long time. The universities have had enough help from expanded student loans over the years, compliments of the government, to enable tuition increases that far surpass COL and inflation rates. In fact, to the point where many believe it’s their right to not repay their loan contracts.

But alas, the shared misery crowd always lifts their head and proposes new taxes, funded by others, to cover for these consequences, which were already funded by others.

Obviously football funds all sports. I don't know if they fund the band - that would be a good thing.

My premise was not about college funding. Is was about trying to even out the money in college sports somewhat. The same college sports that can pay a coach $10 million, a coordinator $2 million and have have football training facilities equipped like resorts. Now players are going to get paid. This pay will be on top of NIL, a free education and generally having things waaay better than other students.

I am simply looking for ways to improve the competitive balance and put some of the money to better use.

 

[TXHCHawk]

They also have lives unlike the usual student. And in football, they are a COG that generates more than the usual student. I don’t understand why there is this belief the academic side of the institution are a bunch of paupers.

If it is funding other programs, including for women and Title IX, then it is being put to good use. Can’t imagine how you may feel about programs that can’t self-fund, or at least come close to it. That would be something worthy of scrutiny, because that would be a situation where the school and/or tax payer money is funding part of athletics.

 

[joelbc1]

Obviously football funds all sports. I don't know if they fund the band - that would be a good thing.

My premise was not about college funding. Is was about trying to even out the money in college sports somewhat. The same college sports that can pay a coach $10 million, a coordinator $2 million and have have football training facilities equipped like resorts. Now players are going to get paid. This pay will be on top of NIL, a free education and generally having things waaay better than other students.

I am simply looking for ways to improve the competitive balance and put some of the money to better use.

Ethanol $$ ain’t oil $$.

 

[jberesford]

Yeah KFs replacement will be making just as much or more as KF.

Kind of what I pointed out in some of the buyout threads over the years. The faster coaching salaries accelerate it may prove to be get the next guy sooner than later and eat the ferentz buyout if you can get him under contract soon for a couple years. May be a bargain later. Paying two coaches might be cheaper than one if you're signing that guy 4 years from now and all the sudden you have to pay him $10+ million a year...

 

[mro1978]

bargain right there