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start blitzing more. We can't give the QB of teams or at least good teams 5 or more seconds to let a receiver get open. This is especially true when we seldom go to a nickel or dime package. Our bend, but not break philosophy will not work against OSU or WI.
 
I thought Lattimore would be the guy to get penetration, but he hasn't really made a play all year.
 
I thought Lattimore would be the guy to get penetration, but he hasn't really made a play all year.
Put on some bad weight, he is a step slower than last year. Did anyone else notice he did not have his name on his jersey today? What's with that? Silent protest?
 
This is our teams greatest weakness, besides punter. Our Dlineman never get off blocks to make plays in the running game or the passing game. Never. You just can't give opposing quarterbacks as much time as we have the last two weeks. It's just too easy. I think our corners are better than what people realize because they have to cover for so long. Quarterbacks have all day back there. I'm not even sure they have to break a sweat.
 
must of missed Lattimore bull rushing the Illinois QB, the coaches wanted him to red shirt but he wanted to play. the fact that he is starting as a True SO says a lot.

Carl Davis didn't do much till his JR season and poster were saying the exact same thing about SO Davis,
 
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must of missed Lattimore bull rushing the Illinois QB, the coaches wanted him to red shirt but he wanted to play. the fact that he is starting as a True SO says a lot.

Carl Davis didn't do much till his JR season and poster were saying the exact same thing about SO Davis,

Jahleel Johnson was much better than Carl Davis. Carl Davis had the measureables but I don't think he made as many plays. Your point is valid though, takes time to develop.
 
Put on some bad weight, he is a step slower than last year. Did anyone else notice he did not have his name on his jersey today? What's with that? Silent protest?
Was in the doghouse because it was found he logged into twitter. How he was caught is still unclear.
 
Tell me when you saw an Iowa dlineman actually not straight bull rush and stay in their lane? They always try to get two hands on the olines chest plate. Never do they pin arm or speed rush and rip. We are a one trick pony on the d line.
 
start blitzing more. We can't give the QB of teams or at least good teams 5 or more seconds to let a receiver get open. This is especially true when we seldom go to a nickel or dime package. Our bend, but not break philosophy will not work against OSU or WI.
There are like two DTs in all of college football who can consistently get to the QB. Ends, on the other hand...
 
Was in the doghouse because it was found he logged into twitter. How he was caught is still unclear.

Re-watch the tape. Name was on the jersey in the first half. Probably had a uniform issue and had to switch jerseys. ILLANNOY was pretty handsy so wouldn't be surprised if the jersey was torn.
 
Tell me when you saw an Iowa dlineman actually not straight bull rush and stay in their lane? They always try to get two hands on the olines chest plate. Never do they pin arm or speed rush and rip. We are a one trick pony on the d line.
You must not watch much of AJE.
 
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68, well said.. I believe we have some awesome youth coming up that will fill in the voids but A Nelson is becoming a beast.. didn’t see the game or stats but some highlights and saw Nelson chasing down Boy George the 3rd

start blitzing more. We can't give the QB of teams or at least good teams 5 or more seconds to let a receiver get open. This is especially true when we seldom go to a nickel or dime package. Our bend, but not break philosophy will not work against OSU or WI.
 
start blitzing more. We can't give the QB of teams or at least good teams 5 or more seconds to let a receiver get open. This is especially true when we seldom go to a nickel or dime package. Our bend, but not break philosophy will not work against OSU or WI.

Before reading the rest of the thread, the bend don't break is what got us a win over Michigan & an inch away from another big upset this year.

On the other hand, I entirely agree we need to get creative in getting more pressure. JGJr. had more than enough time today for below avg. team.
 
68, well said.. I believe we have some awesome youth coming up that will fill in the voids but A Nelson is becoming a beast.. didn’t see the game or stats but some highlights and saw Nelson chasing down Boy George the 3rd

Please stop with the hyperbole. I can't take it with comments like 'awesome youth'. We have 1 highly regarded 5 star young player in AJE. That's exactly 1 player. Who else is in your category of 'awesome' youth? Could we 'develop' someone sure but it's not a given. I like A Nelson too so that's 2 guys in the entire group.

Keep in mind we mind we got exactly 1 sack on a horrific IL OL that has not been able to block anyone before our game.

We have a lot of very tough but slow footed defensive players in the front 7 which exposes us again and again in marquee bowl games. The massive yards we are giving up become easy TDs in bowl games.

You are not alone.... way, way, way too much hyperbole and over-selling our players. Remember that narrative about 'best D-Line' ever leading up to the season. I questioned that notion big time after pointing out we lost our very best player in Jaleel Johnson to the NFL. Many posters were countering with how much Lattimore & Rieff were going to do to fill that loss. That's what I thought.
 
Maybe I'm not watching close enough but it doesn't seem we do twists and stunts as much as we used to.
 
Good teams blitz. But not usually every play. Iowa needs to pick its spots and send the house. Like, oh, when it's 4th and goal from the 7 with four seconds left.

It's usually pretty obvious when a blitz is in order. Like in baseball...it's usually pretty obvious when a sac bunt is in order. But you do it anyway, and it almost always works.

Iowa, surprise, is WAY too conservative on defense. Timely blitzes are crucial. For evidence, look at what teams do against Iowa and, generally, what most teams around the country do.

It's third and seven? BLITZ! Don't let the QB sit in a rocking chair and throw for the damn first down. Just stop.

Knowing Iowa MIGHT blitz can change play calling and personnel packages for the opposition, and that's in Iowa's favor. And knowing Iowa almost NEVER blitzes does just the opposite.

For 19 years, in general, Iowa has needed to be more aggressive...intelligently aggressive...on both sides of the ball.
 
Going into yesterday's game Illinois had given up 13 sacks in five games. Not great for them but not a crazy number.
 
I miss Karl Klug and Mike Daniels. We just need some big nasties in there at DT. I like teams that play a 310 lb DT and stop the O-line from getting any push. Even bring in a big 320+ lb nose guard when you know they're running up the middle.
 
Before reading the rest of the thread, the bend don't break is what got us a win over Michigan & an inch away from another big upset this year.

On the other hand, I entirely agree we need to get creative in getting more pressure. JGJr. had more than enough time today for below avg. team.


You do realize the defense has been azz kicked in last 3 bowl games when we leave the comfort of the soft B1G.
 
I think that part of what we see from the DL is attributable to how Phil Parker schemes things. Most of the season he has had the DL play contain ... and that requires the DL to control their lanes. When we played PSU ... the DL got "unleashed" a little more ... and we really productive in the process.

If I were to guess, given that the Hawks have to play against Thorson and Barrett ... I'm thinking that Phil was wanting to make sure that the DL gets reps to ensure that they'll be fundamentally sound. Furthermore, we all knew that Illinois would be overwhelmed to some degree by the Hawks ... consequently, I don't think that Phil wanted to "show too much" against them. Of course, that said, I'm willing to bet that Phil wasn't happy with the level of execution from the D.
 
He will get better as the year moves along.
Absolutely. Folks seem to forget that Jaleel Johnson wasn't a starter until he was a redshirt junior. It took him THAT LONG to get consistent enough to be a regular starter.

We have to remember that Lattimore is only a true Sophomore ... and we were forced to green-light his amount of playing time due to a lack of healthy, developed bodies at DT. Furthermore, we have a pretty active rotation at DT ... with reps mostly being split between Bazata, Lattimore, and M. Nelson. On third downs or obvious passing situations ... we've also been seeing Hesse and Reiff come in at DT too.

There are trade-offs with splitting reps. The positive is that guys tend to be a bit fresher. However, the negative is that a D-linemen doesn't see as many reps to get a "feel" for how the O-lineman is playing him. That can make it harder for the D-lineman to make in-game adjustments to be successful. Furthermore, the fewer reps you see ... the fewer reps you have to improve from.

At this point, I would surmise that the biggest factor impacting the DT play simply has to deal with inexperience at the position ... given that 2 of the 3 top DTs are "newer."

Lastly, if you look to the future ... we get Nixon on campus this spring if everything goes according to plan AND we'll be getting Linderbaum and Shannon next summer/fall. Those are some fine additions to the DT group!
 
Before reading the rest of the thread, the bend don't break is what got us a win over Michigan & an inch away from another big upset this year.

On the other hand, I entirely agree we need to get creative in getting more pressure. JGJr. had more than enough time today for below avg. team.

The Line was able to get pressure on the QB that game and be disruptive in the back field.. JJ was taking their guards lunch all game.. due to Iowa not doing much blitzing and switching on D I would think having d line man that can get pressure would be a MUST! We haven’t be getting it done. We need the D line to do more than just occupy o line man.
 
I don't understand why they don't blitz more, seems like it always leads to something positive.

The second TD to Lazard and first TD to Hakeem Butler against Iowa State were both against biltzes. The game-winning TD by Penn State was on a blitz. Iowa could blitz more, I suppose, but the results wouldn't be that great I don't think. We're not set up to be a successful blitzing team. That could change with Snyder and Hooker now at safety, but time will tell.
 
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I don't understand why Reese doesn't ROTATE more guys. The 2 starters are simply not getting it done.

GO HAWKS :)

What does this even mean? Iowa rotates lots of guys at all positions on the D-line. Bazata, Lattimore, M. Nelson and Brady Reiff all have played a lot of snaps at d-tackle. Now Jansen played a lot in the second half Saturday as Bazata sat out.

The game is a team game. The defense wasn't great Saturday, the bye comes at a good time. We will see what happens over the final 6 games.
 
I thought #90 had a good game. He put as much pressure on the QB as anyone. Maybe put him and Hesse at DT, with AJE and A. Nelson at DE on passing downs?
 
Absolutely. Folks seem to forget that Jaleel Johnson wasn't a starter until he was a redshirt junior. It took him THAT LONG to get consistent enough to be a regular starter.

We have to remember that Lattimore is only a true Sophomore ... and we were forced to green-light his amount of playing time due to a lack of healthy, developed bodies at DT. Furthermore, we have a pretty active rotation at DT ... with reps mostly being split between Bazata, Lattimore, and M. Nelson. On third downs or obvious passing situations ... we've also been seeing Hesse and Reiff come in at DT too.

There are trade-offs with splitting reps. The positive is that guys tend to be a bit fresher. However, the negative is that a D-linemen doesn't see as many reps to get a "feel" for how the O-lineman is playing him. That can make it harder for the D-lineman to make in-game adjustments to be successful. Furthermore, the fewer reps you see ... the fewer reps you have to improve from.

At this point, I would surmise that the biggest factor impacting the DT play simply has to deal with inexperience at the position ... given that 2 of the 3 top DTs are "newer."

Lastly, if you look to the future ... we get Nixon on campus this spring if everything goes according to plan AND we'll be getting Linderbaum and Shannon next summer/fall. Those are some fine additions to the DT group!
Linderbaum has a TON of upside - get him on Doyle's program and up to 300lbs he will be just like Daniels, Johnson the past few years. He is a very smart kid and comes from a solid family.
 
Hopefully the Iowa coaches don't neuter AJ like they do most of our players. Let athletes be athletes.
Did the Hawks neuter Ott ... like in his pretty dominant game against Wisconsin in '15? Did the coaches neuter Jaleel ... like in his game against Michigan in '16?

It strikes me that when players are executing consistently and at a high level ... production usually comes with it. Folks seem to forget that the Iowa DL only has 1 senior. Parker Hesse is one of our more consistent performers ... and, not surprisingly, he also has the most TFLs. Anthony Nelson has the most sacks on the team ... and he's only a sophomore.

While I agree with fans here who state that the Iowa DL is capable of better play ... however, if you read the interviews of Iowa's D-linemen ... they're saying the exact same thing that we are. They KNOW that their play against Illinois isn't living up to their own standard ... which is arguably an even higher standard than the one we're holding them to.
 
Linderbaum has a TON of upside - get him on Doyle's program and up to 300lbs he will be just like Daniels, Johnson the past few years. He is a very smart kid and comes from a solid family.
I see Linderbaum being more in the mold of a Babineaux or Trinca-Pasat. I would anticipate that his best college playing weight will be around 285 to 290. From what I've gathered from interviews by Kevin Miller, Linderbaum's top attributes are his uncommon athleticism (for his size) and his football smarts.

I still don't know if I like Linderbaum better at DT or C. He reminds me a bit of the Illini's Kendrick Green in that respect (a '17 DL/C recruit we missed on).
 
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