We have to recruit some DT's that can get to the passer or
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I know that Phil will be concerned about Thorson's mobility ... however, maybe rather than completely playing a "contain" game on him ... maybe Phil schemes the DL to play more twists and stunts ... and then uses Jewell to spy Thorson.
Part of the problem is when they do blitz they are some of the worst designed/executed blitzes I have seen. Completely obvious and terrible timing.
Our goal is to control the QB and collapse the pocket at the same time. Not an aggressive approach, but safe...sacks will be due more to coverage. We don't have the team speed to cover mistakes of the front four. tOSU, on the other hand, let Bosa attack the QB because they know they have the speed to cover. AJ and a couple others are probably not in the right scheme to take advantage of their attacking ability and individual moves. The Watt brothers probably wouldn't have been as dominant in our scheme. Not judging whether it is right or wrong, just my opinion of the way it is.
With the increase of spread offenses, the Hawks need to recruit kids that are fast and quick at the LB position.
With the increase of spread offenses, the Hawks need to recruit kids that are fast and quick at the LB position.
So if we don't get a sack it's poorly designed? I don't follow the logic. Basically if you have the athletic/speed advantage over the opponent everywhere, it's a good idea to blitz a lot. If you don't, you are asking for trouble in sending the house all the time. Jackson and Ojemudia are above average B1G corners, but asking any of our linebackers or safeties (other than Hooker) to cover people in space is a bad idea. Iowa has to win by playing team defense. The biggest path to improvement is by the front 4 getting more pressure.
For those all excited about Penn State's blitzes, their pressure should have cost them the Iowa game. The long TD pass to Wadley came on a blitz that left the LB covering Wadley by himself. Then the next drive Iowa scored quickly on the long pass to Vandeberg and the draw to Wadley beating pressure. A good defense uses all the tools available, including pressure. The key to Iowa winning more games isn't going to be heavy doses of blitzes.
97% pf you people are frickin' idiots and have no clue about defensive line play.
I know... I did not play Pop Warner football.
This starts with the OP and opining about the lack of sacks and defensive rush from the Iowa defensive tackles.
Any sack from a DT is a bonus. That is not their primary focus or assignment.
I would further detail this but 97% of you would not get it.
Sheesh...
I know... I did not play Pop Warner football.
This starts with the OP and opining about the lack of sacks and defensive rush from the Iowa defensive tackles.
Any sack from a DT is a bonus. That is not their primary focus or assignment.
I would further detail this but 97% of you would not get it.
Sheesh...
Jackson is doing a very very good job as Kings replacement, Jackson is 6'1 vs King who was 5'10 maybe 5'11.
"Well if you don't keep track of score how do you measure yourself against other golfers?"
"By height".
"By height".
The downside is GRAD 16-17 King had a standing broad jump of 7' 8" while RSJR Jackson comes in at 7' 3".
get real will you Jackson has a longer wingspan and a higher verticle. his vertical and longer reach far out weigh any broad jump.
We're leaving way too many holes unfilled. We have to get better at penetrating as many holes as we can. Only then will we be able to lie back and enjoy a cigarette.
The main job of our defensive tackles has been to stuff the run and keep the lineman off of our linebackers as someone had previously stated. As far as the comment that somebody made about our players being neutered by coaches, I have to ask which players because I don't see it. I think the majority of our defensive players get better every year.
Hell we need DTs who can stuff the run, too. Iowa hasn't recruited a true DT since Jaleel Johnson and Faith Ekakitie five years ago. Well, they've recruited them, but they haven't landed them. Most of the guys now are DEs or LBs who have bulked up and were converted to tackle out of necessity. Lattimore was projected as a DE but Iowa had to use him as a DT even during his true freshman year last year. It's Iowa's run defense that's hurting their pass D most. Hell, they gave up almost 200 yards to the Illini!!!
Lattimore as described by his HS Coach could play TE all 5 spots on the OL, both DE' spots either DT spot or the NG in a 3-4 he is/was that versatile, that's why Scout rated him a 4*, it took Carl Davis till his JR year before he really made a impact,
Lattimore is a true SO and is only going to get better,
I think a few more blitzes maybe, but the reason blitzes work for us when they do is because it is used so infrequently.....I think PP said it is at about 12%. Would like to see that slightly above 15%. None the less, not sure why people are nitpicking the defense....they give up very few points even when put on short fields due to punting mishaps......
Yeah, but that's point, he's a true SO and he HAS to start instead of spending two years bulking up and getting to know the scheme better before playing. My point is valid: The Iowa coaching staff has not recruited DT well at all the past five years.
Lattimore is 6'5 295 lbs how big does he have to be to play DT, Ekakitie was 6'3 295 lbs. LTP was 6'3 290 lbs.
the coaches wanted RS him but Lattimore wanted to play now, the fact that he was a 2nd team player as a FR and a starter as a SO, the coaches do a very good job in Identifying players,
Well I've seen us do safety blitz, but our safeties are so deep at the snap that it is 4 banana before they can even get to the line--total waste. One other blitz is in red zone walk everyone up to the line we are going to send and then send the house ...everyone sees that.
Teams that blitz well bring LBs close to the line and some of them are fake and some go, on other downs they might all drop back. Iowa has very little fakes in the blitz schemes. You want the other team guessing how many are coming and who is coming--we don't do good job confusing anyone.
Our standard 4-3 is less amenable to blitzing from different linebacker spots than a 3-4.
Watch MSU, they do a good job blitzing and they have a great defense. PSU game, yeah we did beat them on a few plays but we only scored 19 pts or whatever it was.
Back to our DL-- we are giving up 145 yard per game in rushing. The great defenses of 2004 and 2009 were closer to 90. This DL is not great by Iowa standards.
Norm Parker was not a big fan of the blitz either, DON'T recall to many complaining back then, Phil learned from Norm and is doing a very good job, Iowa is 21st in scoring defense right behind Miami at 18.6 ppg and MSU at 18.2 ppg.
as Norm used to say "yards between the 20's don't win games its what you do inside the 20 that wins games,, Iowa lost on the last play of the game to a top 4 team and lost by 7 to a top 20 team, for a team that was picked to go 6-6 there sure a lot of complaining going on about a now 4-2 team. oh by the way KF needs 1 more win to = HF 20 year total of 143 wins. in 19 years.
as Norm used to say "yards between the 20's don't win games its what you do inside the 20 that wins games,, Iowa lost on the last play of the game to a top 4 team and lost by 7 to a top 20 team, for a team that was picked to go 6-6 there sure a lot of complaining going on about a now 4-2 team. oh by the way KF needs 1 more win to = HF 20 year total of 143 wins. in 19 years.
It is not the players, it is the coaches and their chosen scheme and preferences of how it is played. They value gap responsibility and contain more. That is why we have guys that are good for the Hawkeyes, and better in the NFL.
Personally, it drives me nuts, hate it. Opposing QBs standing in the backfield forever just waiting for an open man.
When one of the big fellas up front demand a double team is when blitzing really works and we just don't have that yet.
Well, I played DE and DT in college, so I do "know" quite a bit. Any pressure from the DT's helps the DE's and prevents the QB from stepping up in the pocket. Any pressure from the DE's forcing the QB up helps DT's get sacks. Not every sack is a edge speed rush from a DE.
@OP
Lindebaum is an ARMY AA
and NIXON has an Alabama offer
Be unlike Muskie5 and think before you post
Lindebaum is an ARMY AA
and NIXON has an Alabama offer
Be unlike Muskie5 and think before you post
It's not bigger, it's getting stronger, mastering technique, and understanding his role on defense (understanding the calls). He'll likely be better his junior and senior years, but he's not a natural DT like Johnson or Ekakaite were. Iowa has had a tough time landing true DTs for some reason. I don't know why because they have sent a number of DTs to the NFL but since Johnson and Ekakaite they've struggled to land true DTs. That's why Lattimore had to play so much as a true freshman even though he wasn't B10 level yet. James Daniels was a different story. That guy came ready to play. Those guys are rare, at least for Iowa.
Yep. One thing Doodle has learned from the internet over the years, is that it's definitely possible to get double penetration in someone's backfield.
Bazata was a true DT and he is a 3rd year starter, Ekakitie was a DE not a DT. Carl Davis didn't do much till his RSJR Year, Johnson didn't start till his RSJR Year.
Lattimore is ahead of both of these just because he doesn't have dbl digit sack numbers doesn't mean he is failing as a DT.
Iowa right now is T-12 in Scoring defense, the good news is that the DL will return 7 of the top 8 DL man. DE Anthony Nelson leads the team in sacks with 6.
Do you really think out of 130 teams Iowa is the only program that develops players? Every team has to do some developing and most teams have to do more of it than Iowa.
Kirk's kool-aid causes reality distortion for soooooooo many within the fanbase.
Lol, I so enjoy the behavior and antics of children. Vivid imaginations, and unfiltered impulsive behavior. Please tell us all for the 25th hundred time child, how worthless KF is, it never gets old.
Also, Shannon has had one heck of a SR campaign this year too. While I'm excited about both Linderbaum and Nixon ... I wouldn't underestimate Shannon ... he may yet prove to be the best of the bunch. There's nothing wrong with having a great collection of DT talent!
If only Muskie5yrold was smart enough to post at our intelligence level. And don't worry I'm not sleeping on Shannon, my name ain't Kevin Spacey.
LMAO! Do you have any idea how far I would have to retrogress and how many words I would have to eliminate from my vocabulary to post at your 'level'. You are one funny guy, Joel. Good thing most don't take you seriously.
