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We really aren’t a serious country anymore, are we?

This must be the whiny thread.😂😂😂 listen to all these Libs crying. Priceless indeed. Truth is they’ve got no clue. MAGA!!!
 
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Fox News will make sure their base believe it’s the democrats fault. Biden made things sooooooooo bad that Trump is going to need a couple more terms to fix it…and they’ll believe them.
Holy shit! It's like you don't own a mirror. Have you been around you and chis the last 4 years? Every good thing is Biden and every bad thing bad thing is because of Trump. Still. Zero self awareness.
 
When the country collapses (and it will) and takes the rest of the world with it (it will), Donald Trump will have little to nothing to do with it. The debt bomb created by both Dem and Rep alike will be what takes it all down.

If you are going to constantly poop your pants, please stop spreading it on the walls.
One third of our debt was created in four years under Trump. All from a tax cut to the rich we couldn't afford.
 
Not to mention no one is more whiny, hurt, and aggrieved than a Trump voter.
This thread seems to disprove that theory immediately. Let's look at other threads started by the left this week and... they're all tantrums. How about that.
 
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Holy shit! It's like you don't own a mirror. Have you been around you and chis the last 4 years? Every good thing is Biden and every bad thing bad thing is because of Trump. Still. Zero self awareness.
Thanks for reminding us you don't know the difference between facts and fiction. Reality and fantasy world. You truly think MSNBC/CNN and FOX are the same thing. 787 million. Hexum and scruddy agreed with you so that ought to make you feel pretty smart. Lol.
 
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Thanks for reminding us you don't know the difference between facts and fiction. Reality and fantasy world. You truly think MSNBC/CNN and FOX are the same thing. 787 million. Hexum and scruddy agreed with you so that ought to make you feel pretty smart. Lol.
"Facts" and "fiction". Lol good one coming from you.
 
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It is. Prove me wrong. 787 million for lying but you want to both sides crap. Get your head out of your ass.
Yeah thats fine for FOX news. I'm talking about you. You do the exact same gaslighting on here. The only difference is you don't have an audience. If you think screaming in to the void here on hbot makes you better than screaming in to a camera like fox does, then you are sadly mistaken.
 
Yeah thats fine for FOX news. I'm talking about you. You do the exact same gaslighting on here. The only difference is you don't have an audience. If you think screaming in to the void here on hbot makes you better than screaming in to a camera like fox does, then you are sadly mistaken.
Gaslighting? Prove me wrong, Mr. women are killing babies. You're okay with FOX LYING to millions of viewers, causing irreparable damage to the US, but you want to try to say I'm like them? I don't know why I am even replying when you are wrong about basically everything on here. I can always tell by who likes your posts - the lunatics on here. The Fox News watchers. Weird how that circled back.
 
We have both.
Correct, taxes are also too damn high
Gaslighting? Prove me wrong, Mr. women are killing babies. You're okay with FOX LYING to millions of viewers, causing irreparable damage to the US, but you want to try to say I'm like them? I don't know why I am even replying when you are wrong about basically everything on here. I can always tell by who likes your posts - the lunatics on here. The Fox News watchers. Weird how that circled back.
You're not like fox news. Your worse.
 
One third of our debt was created in four years under Trump. All from a tax cut to the rich we couldn't afford.

Smh. The debt went up $8T under Trump in four years. 4.2T of which came in 2020. The debt has gone up $7.2T under Biden through May of 2024. Tax receipts from the federal government have gone from 3.33T in 2017 to 4.9T in 2023. Through May of 2024 they sit at 4.44T. I will let you guess what the only year they went down was.

All of which makes my point. This is why it is impossible to take the team blue and team red seriously. Both are responsible and make irrational arguments to say it is the others fault. The OP is right, we aren’t a serious country anymore.
 
Smh. The debt went up $8T under Trump in four years. 4.2T of which came in 2020. The debt has gone up $7.2T under Biden through May of 2024. Tax receipts from the federal government have gone from 3.33T in 2017 to 4.9T in 2023. Through May of 2024 they sit at 4.44T. I will let you guess what the only year they went down was.

All of which makes my point. This is why it is impossible to take the team blue and team red seriously. Both are responsible and make irrational arguments to say it is the others fault. The OP is right, we aren’t a serious country anymore.
Anyone who blames the “other” party for the national debt is an idiot. The last president who had any fiscal sense whatsoever was Bill Clinton, and even he added to the overall debt. Of course, that was child’s play compared to W, Obama, Trump, and Biden.
 
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With Matt Gaetz bowing out for AG, is that some kind of record?

This clown show is just getting warmed up.
 
Anyone who blames the “other” party for the national debt is an idiot. The last president who had any fiscal sense whatsoever was Bill Clinton, and even he added to the overall debt. Of course, that was child’s play compared to W, Obama, Trump, and Biden.

Clinton did this with Newt Gingrich and the republican congress. And to be fair, the only reason they were able to is that they were there for the unprecedented economic growth that came along with the internet.
 
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Clinton did this with Newt Gingrich and the republican congress. And to be fair, the only reason they were able to is that they were there for the unprecedented economic growth that came along with the internet.
I 100% agree and have always said the Clinton economy was due to the Internet boom.
 
We have a spending problem, not a tax problem.
Our 2023 deficit was 1.7 trillion. Our entire budget for discretionary spending including 100% of defense and virtually every other department was 1.7 trillion in 2023.

So assuming you cannot touch mandatory spend items like Medicare or social security you would have to fire every member of the military, the entire judiciary, and every government bureaucrat to get to a balanced budget if you don’t raise taxes.

It is the height of stupidity to believe the bullshit some folks on the right say on this. As much as I would want to, we cannot keep taxes this low forever. You choose: kill most of social security and Medicare or raise taxes.
 
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Gaslighting? Prove me wrong, Mr. women are killing babies. You're okay with FOX LYING to millions of viewers, causing irreparable damage to the US, but you want to try to say I'm like them? I don't know why I am even replying when you are wrong about basically everything on here. I can always tell by who likes your posts - the lunatics on here. The Fox News watchers. Weird how that circled back.
Where did I say I was ok with fox lying? Try reading once.
 
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Our 2023 deficit was 1.7 trillion. Our entire budget for discretionary spending including 100% of defense and virtually every other department was 1.7 trillion in 2023.

So assuming you cannot touch mandatory spend items like Medicare or social security you would have to fire every member of the military, the entire judiciary, and every government bureaucrat to get to a balanced budget if you don’t raise taxes.

It is the height of stupidity to believe the bullshit some folks on the right say on this. As much as I would want to, we cannot keep taxes this low forever. You choose: kill most of social security and Medicare or raise taxes.
Someone either hasn't looked at the entirety of the budget or purposely omitting things. Which is it?
 
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