What do you think of PMac?

[drh1150]

I know there is a small sample size to judge him but I'm excited about his future. He seems comfortable from what I've seen. I think he creates havoc on defense because he anticipates, moves well for his size and of course his length is troubling for wing players. I'm not sure about his rebounding ability given his frame but we've seen him lead the fast break with some ball handling skills.
Endurance may be a problem but there is something about his energy when he come in that I find positive
He and Keegan in the starting lineup for a couple years will give teams fits.

 

[Rifler]

He's still a bit of a dice roll but I think he could be very very good,.. Next year will tell the story.

 

[BondHawk]

As long as he doesn't get too trigger happy from 3-point land, I like seeing him out there. Brings some unique skills to the table.

 

[ChiPackHawk]

I know there is a small sample size to judge him but I'm excited about his future. He seems comfortable from what I've seen. I think he creates havoc on defense because he anticipates, moves well for his size and of course his length is troubling for wing players. I'm not sure about his rebounding ability given his frame but we've seen him lead the fast break with some ball handling skills.
Endurance may be a problem but there is something about his energy when he come in that I find positive
He and Keegan in the starting lineup for a couple years will give teams fits.

He's a scorer that in a couple of years will be averaging 20+ a game. I actually believe he will be at least the equal of the offensive version of Aaron White.

 

[jonesy5960]

He's got great length and very good athletic ability. He's gonna be a very good player.

 

[HoustonHawkeye]

He's a scorer that in a couple of years will be averaging 20+ a game. I actually believe he will be at least the equal of the offensive version of Aaron White.

Good comparison. Probably a little better athlete than Aaron, but similar impact.

 

[HawkeyeInCentralIowa]

He just needs to get better at finishing close to the rim. He has a ton of talent, and he can be very good. He has really improved since the start of the season, and I think he’ll finish well. During the off-season, he really is going to have to bulk up. That’s going to help him to finish through contact.

 

[DodgerHawki]

He's got great length and very good athletic ability. He's gonna be a very good player.

Definitely a lot to like. Having a good first year of playing. He and Murray have very good futures. Tall guys who can move laterally and can dribble, pass and shoot are going to be good players. And we get glimpses of it right now. Put some more consistency in their games and you really have something.

 

[Radar3454]

Playing 2 much in critical situations for my liking currently, but if he stays healthy and can handle the mins he could be an all American in a couple years. Horrible shot form, but good handle and athleticism for his size and aggressive creative offensive player.

 

[Willin]

He's a scorer that in a couple of years will be averaging 20+ a game. I actually believe he will be at least the equal of the offensive version of Aaron White.

I see similarities in him and White, too. PMac can score in a variety of ways, fills the lane well on the break, defends well, and I see us running lobs to him a lot in the future, as we did with White a few years back. (20+ is a lot, though. Maybe 15 a game??)

 

[fivecardstud14]

He's got a little bit of George Gervin in him.

 

[SoonerBeAHawk]

That running, twisting, floater across the lane is kinda wild but he ends up getting a pretty good look and it demonstrates his agility.

Excited for his future.

 

[Mohawkeye]

I’m amazed at how many shots he alters or blocks on defense. Keegan as well. Both are great ball handlers for their size. They are both so long and nimble, they cover a lot of ground, on offense and defense. I see them both starting next year and with Garza gone that is really going to make our offense much more up tempo and our zone much more effective, especially with Nunge in the middle. It sounds crazy, but next year could actually be a better team, even if Weezy leaves.

 

[Ihawkhoops]

He checks the box in the athleticism department for sure and is pretty heady. He doesn't try to do too much but is trying to be more aggressive when opportunities arise. His 3 last night with the shot clock winding down was huge as was his floater in the lane. Offensively I think he is more advanced than White at the same point in their careers.

 

[Rifler]

He checks the box in the athleticism department for sure and is pretty heady. He doesn't try to do too much but is trying to be more aggressive when opportunities arise. His 3 last night with the shot clock winding down was huge as was his floater in the lane. Offensively I think he is more advanced than White at the same point in their careers.

Pat does stuff in the air that White couldn't even dream about,.. He could be very good down the road.

 

[StormHawk42]

Gets lost on D from time to time but overall, the good outweighs the bad. Pretty easy to see that he will be a big time scorer a few years down the road.

 

[EpenesaEpenesa]

I like him. Long, athletic. Does a pretty decent job moving his feet defensively. Like most inexperienced players, needs to get stronger and more confident. I'm not big on him handling the ball, but he actually has really good handles for a kid his size.

 

[Ihawkhoops]

I’m amazed at how many shots he alters or blocks on defense. Keegan as well. Both are great ball handlers for their size. They are both so long and nimble, they cover a lot of ground, on offense and defense. I see them both starting next year and with Garza gone that is really going to make our offense much more up tempo and our zone much more effective, especially with Nunge in the middle. It sounds crazy, but next year could actually be a better team, even if Weezy leaves.

Interesting post. I was having the same conversation with my brother this morning. The more I see of Nunge the less confident I am he can or wants to play inside. Hard to tell since Garza is such a dominant force, but Nunge seems to be more comfortable / confident outside. Not sure if Josh O. will be able to contribute anything--not counting on it. As you stated, if Joe W. leaves there could be a complete remodel next year in players and style of play.

 

[Mohawkeye]

Pat does stuff in the air that White couldn't even dream about,.. He could be very good down the road.

Very true. But I don’t think he will ever be the rebounder that White was.

 

[unoHawkeye]

Very true. But I don’t think he will ever be the rebounder that White was.

White had that uncanny nose for the ball. It seemed like he lived in the passing lanes defensively too

 

[NI hawk]

He's still a bit of a dice roll but I think he could be very very good,.. Next year will tell the story.

Wish he would get rid of the running floater. Agree about being a roll of dice.

 

[BlackNGoldBleeder]

Will be a force to be reckoned with next year.

 

[Hawk_4shur]

There is a lot to like about him. He fast, he's quick and very athletic. He might not be the guy that camps under the board a drags down rebounds, but you have to look at the game today. Three points shots taking crazy bounces off the rim - he may get 10 boards just by getting those quicker than everyone else.

I think he is going to be very good.

 

[87alum87]

Pat is definitely a highly skilled player. But, I'm not sure where he will fit in as a starter. He does not shoot a high enough percentage from three to be a wing. So the 4 is probably his best fit.

I think Keegan is also best suited to the 4 spot. Currently, Keegan's all around game is much better than Pat's.

If Joe W. leaves, I hope Pat can improve his 3-point accuracy with Luka-like work over the summer. If he doesn't, I would like to see what Kris Murray can do at the 3.

Defensively, Keegan, Pat, and Jack will get many blocks, tips, and steals. The Murrays. Pat, and Jack will be fun group of forwards to watch on the defensive end.

Too bad, Pat isn't an inch or two taller. He could develop a McKale type game. Then again, maybe he will anyway, at 6-9.

 

[jonesy5960]

Interesting post. I was having the same conversation with my brother this morning. The more I see of Nunge the less confident I am he can or wants to play inside. Hard to tell since Garza is such a dominant force, but Nunge seems to be more comfortable / confident outside. Not sure if Josh O. will be able to contribute anything--not counting on it. As you stated, if Joe W. leaves there could be a complete remodel next year in players and style of play.

You do realize that the guy that you say can't play inside has easily the best per 40 rebounding number on the team at 12.7 vs 10.0 for Garza? That's pretty good for a guy that can't play down there. Can he get stronger? Sure. Does he look more confident offensively facing the basket? Probably. But he can certainly do it and considering this is his first full season in 3 years, he's having a great year and I think he'll get a lot better.

 

[IllQChawk]

Very athletic for a 6-10 players, shooting form may hold him back from being a reliable 3 point scorer, but as he get's older and stronger he should be a force around the basket. He has a tremendous upside compared to his older brother and he seems to have a great repour with his other freshmen class when they are on the court together. Looking forward to seeing his development as he moves up the scholastic ladder.

 

[Clifford C. Clavin]

I think he is going to be very good; is very athletic for his size. Right now, however, he gets lost a lot in zone defense, probably more than any other player, in my opinion. Sometimes, his length and athleticism makes up for it. But I think he will be a very good player when he is consistent on that end.

 

[Pepperman]

Good comparison. Probably a little better athlete than Aaron, but similar impact.

Wasn’t White all-B1G freshman? Maybe I’m remembering incorrectly, but PM isn’t at that level.

I see PM as a JR Koch type of player. Both 6’10” and skinny but very disruptive in the full court press. Koch only averaged 10.4 ppg as a senior in 22 mins per game and also hauled in 4.2 rpg. He was also drafted amazingly.

 

[iavagabond]

He’s probably the most worthy of a “Charlie hustle” type label on this team. Seems like he loves to play.

 

[icwesthawk]

Love the enthusiasm from Patrick but he can get moving a little too fast. When he can get some buckets and some rebounds, love him. When he's getting beat on the glass, or off the dribble or throwing up shots that bounce out to half court, well.....

 

[boxahawks]

His athleticism amazes me but discipline doesn't yet seem to be his strong point. I think he's got moves no one else on the team has, but getting out of trouble is a problem for him.

 

[tippet1]

If he had the body type of EJ Liddlle, I would be very excited. I believe his shooting mechanics will keep him from shooting at high percentage during his career. He is a scorer and not really a shooter right now. Patrick is really a 3 in a skinny 4 man body and how much stronger he can get, will be a huge factor on how he progresses. If he were to primarily play the 4 in the BIG, he will get beat up and have a tough time late in the season. With his length, he will be able to cause a lot of problems on the defensive end.

 

[EagleHawk]

Wasn’t White all-B1G freshman? Maybe I’m remembering incorrectly, but PM isn’t at that level.

I see PM as a JR Koch type of player. Both 6’10” and skinny but very disruptive in the full court press. Koch only averaged 10.4 ppg as a senior in 22 mins per game and also hauled in 4.2 rpg. He was also drafted amazingly.

White needed to play as a freshman. the upperclassmen on that team were Gatens, Rickert, Brommer, Cartwright, May and Archie. PMac doesn't really have the need/opportunity to be a star this year.
2011-12 Iowa basketball

 

[fezzador]

I much prefer seeing him on the court than Connor. PMac can actually score a little.

 

[Underscore2]

I loved it. It was much better than Cats. I'm going to see it again and again.

 

[RomanHawk]

He has a lot of abilities as mentioned. But he has a lot of work to do to even approach his potential.
IMO, he should model his game after that of Arron White. But right now, he is no Aaron White. People forget that Aaron scored 19 points in his first college game. He was sneaky good at getting to the rim and doing it in a way that resulted in a high percentage shot or a foul.

Pat needs to scrap the floater across the lane. He is just throwing the ball up there and developing any consistency with it is going to be impossible. If he can't get to the rim, he needs to develop a pullup jumper from that same spot in the lane. Much easier to develop consistency with that shot.

 

[HawkRugged17]

He's got a little bit of George Gervin in him.

I loved his poster ...

 

[EpenesaEpenesa]

He has a lot of abilities as mentioned. But he has a lot of work to do to even approach his potential.
IMO, he should model his game after that of Arron White. But right now, he is no Aaron White. People forget that Aaron scored 19 points in his first college game. He was sneaky good at getting to the rim and doing it in a way that resulted in a high percentage shot or a foul.

Pat needs to scrap the floater across the lane. He is just throwing the ball up there and developing any consistency with it is going to be impossible. If he can't get to the rim, he needs to develop a pullup jumper from that same spot in the lane. Much easier to develop consistency with that shot.

With as good a ball handler he is for his size, a jump stop in the lane and going up strong would suit him well. Hopefully he develops it.

 

[HawkLogic]

Gets lost on D from time to time but overall, the good outweighs the bad. Pretty easy to see that he will be a big time scorer a few years down the road.

pmac COULD be a big time scorer if his shot is consistent. He has air balled several of his his corner threes this year. You don't see good shooters miss that badly that often.

PMAC shoots the ball very hard off the glass in the paint which makes the margin for error on the angle small. Indiana 0-5 and was drag on team and vs Rutgers he shoots well and helps the team win. He is solid athlete...I would say Keegan is quicker, PMAC is longer. PMAC is better feeding the post/not turning it over as much.

I would play PMAC more and CMAC less if lineups were based on votes because PMAC in zone can cover a lot of area vs CMAC in zone getting shot over top.

 

[Ihawkhoops]

You do realize that the guy that you say can't play inside has easily the best per 40 rebounding number on the team at 12.7 vs 10.0 for Garza? That's pretty good for a guy that can't play down there. Can he get stronger? Sure. Does he look more confident offensively facing the basket? Probably. But he can certainly do it and considering this is his first full season in 3 years, he's having a great year and I think he'll get a lot better.

Fair points. I didn't see he can't just said it doesn't look like he wants to. I like his game, but his game is more of a Euro big man who shoots 3's and jumpers. It depends how Fran thinks he can best be utilized. He guards one of the best in the country and has a great mentor. Garza is not only physically tough but mentally tough and that is what separates good interior players from others regardless of their size.