Hes got allot of odd looking slow motion shots in the lane that you think are going to get stuffed but then he contorts his body after he jumps and gets it off.
Its interesting to watch.
What do you think of PMac?
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Hes got allot of odd looking slow motion shots in the lane that you think are going to get stuffed but then he contorts his body after he jumps and gets it off.
Its interesting to watch.
Pat is far more athletic than Koch.
Koch was a stretch 4 before that was a thing Pat is more of guard.
The older Pat gets the more his guard skills will be on display IMO.
Hes not ever going to be a 4.
Keegan is the future at the 4 spot. I wouldn't worry about Pat playing there because it's not going to happen.
The thing I like about all of the freshmen is they all have great ball awareness and anticipation. We will make a ton of steals in the coming years.
Pat is really goddamn good and I’m glad he’s shutting up that blow hard Cassel. If you’re an adult don’t call out a kid playing, he’s putting shit on the line in front of thousands while you didn’t do shit athletically.
Meh. I like his potential, but not as a scorer. Very quick and agile for his length. It’s like he is exactly what his dad wants in a basketball player. Needs to develop his shot, or preferably, totally re-work it. I think he will shine defensively in the passing lanes and disrupting shots. And, is he really 6’ 9”? Seems like we might have another Brunner debate on this one.
Im fine with Jack being a screen and roll/pop big on offense.
I like being able to have all 5 guys outside the 3 line and attack off the dribble next year.
Hes got to defend and rebound though.
And cut out the space case stuff like throwing the ball away on outlets.
I was about to make a similar comment but thought I'd see first if anyone else had. I agree. White was on a team with little talent and had to play a lot of minutes as a freshman. If PMac was playing those same minutes, he would have far more impressive stats now IMO.
Good points. Definitely going to be challenge to replace Jbo and Joe W. if he leaves from a 3 pointer perspective, but the team should be better on D (as you stated) and create more turnovers to fuel the transition game.
Does anyone know that Kris Murray's game is like compared to Keegan's? I saw some of their prep school games Kris looked like more of an interior player but it was a pretty small sampling.
Weight room and experience will help Patrick turn into an All-Conference player. He will be a "3" in most sets and will need to work on his footwork to be able to defend similar athletic players. If he can develop a consistent jump shot from 3, look out! He has a big upside as he has a motor, understands the game and his role, can mix it up inside, slash to the bucket and hit a mid-range jumper.
These 2 things he really needs to improve on. He shys away from contact and gets pushed around a lot inside especially on the boards. Right now it's usually a 3pt shot or a drive to the rim or a floater in the lane. Isn't taking too many mid range jump shots. Like most freshman he needs to improve his % all around for his shooting is 40% from the field, 31% from 3 and 67% from the line. Luckily for this team we aren't asking a ton from him and give him time to grow. Potential is there and hopes he improves in those areas. But if one younger guy who I see as an a future all conference player is Murray.
I just don't know about a lot of this. First I like Pmac and he's a pretty good athlete and skilled for someone 6'9". But... First off his form on the jumper is poor, and thats not easy to fix. People saying he'll get better from deeper if he works at it like Luka did, are probably kidding themselves. Luka has improved, but he's ALWAYS been a good shooter with excellent form. You also have to remember that Pmac has already gained about 25 lbs since last year and I'm sure that was a major effort. I'm not sure he's going to fill out much more, (with his thyroid issue), but we'll see. As for getting older, sure, but again remember he's already the same age as most juniors in college. He sat a year in middle school ,and again last year, and I imagine he's somewhere around 21 years old now, so probably just a year younger then Garza is now. I do thing he's going to improve and the floor time will certainly help him. I just think he's probably closer to his ceiling then we may all like to believe.....
I like his game. He has good length and thrives in transition. However, I feel he is a tweener between a 3 and 4 and his most effective role might be as a 6th man in the future and bring energy off the bench.
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Maybe but with his dad as the coach he's going to start and play major minutes.
Im not worried about his shot. He only shoots when wide open.
Hopefully he does not start next year. JT/Ulis, CJF, JW, Murray, and Nunge in my opinion are the best group to start. He could play major minutes off the bench which is OK
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Cannot argue with much of this. The great thing about PMac is while he does not crush one stat, he does just about everything pretty well.
Points: I think he will get to about 10PPG next year, then max out his senior year at about 15PPG
3P FG%: He is at 31%, above Nunge, though Nunge has better mechanics. Max out 37%. Very respectable.
Rebounds: Probably a 5-7 RPG type guy, very solid
Assists: Probably 2.0-2.5 once he gets decent minutes
Steals: This is where he has tons of potential, this could easily be 1.5 per game
Blocks: Max out around 1.5-1.7 per game
so...he has the potential by his senior year to average roughly:
15 Points
6 Rebounds
2.5 Assists
1.5 Steals
1.5 Blocks
We could live with that! He is the Baer/White/Bowen Mash up!
Absolutely Bird, I concur that Pmac will be a very solid player/contributor. I can see him as a solid SCORER, but not a shooter, like say Joe W as an example.
You see Joe W as a scorer but not a shooter? I kind of see the opposite in him.
I've seen him take the pass and go for the dunk with mind boggling speed, he's a player, young to be way better than Connor.
If Joe Dub leaves Patrick starts. Patrick is a tremendous athlete for his size. I think he'll be a kind of swiss army knife player. One of those guys that scores in a bunch of ways. He's going to get some huge dunks on breaks and offensive rebounding. He'll toss in a few shots from floating around inside. Make some free throws, hit the occasional three. But, at the end of a game you look down and he's got 18 and 10.
Just like there are different ways to play point guard and succeed there are different ways to play forward. Patrick can guard wingish threes because he's athletic and fast. Can they guard him where he's three or four inches taller?
Patrick and Keegan play very well together. Cover a lot of court and create openings. Both can finish on the break and both can rebound. Defensively they consume enough space that it allows an alert and hustling team to have many opportunities on D and running the break. Exciting times ahead.
Just like there are different ways to play point guard and succeed there are different ways to play forward. Patrick can guard wingish threes because he's athletic and fast. Can they guard him where he's three or four inches taller?
Patrick and Keegan play very well together. Cover a lot of court and create openings. Both can finish on the break and both can rebound. Defensively they consume enough space that it allows an alert and hustling team to have many opportunities on D and running the break. Exciting times ahead.
My nickname for PMac is rubber band man.
ive never seen a kid who goes across the lane,jumps off the wrong foot and contorts his body to square himself to the basket and makes the shot. Unreal! His potential is off the charts.
He’s athletic, he’s fast and runs the floor. His most impressive play was when he got the rebound, dribbled the ball down the floor and and finished with a two handed dunk! He’s was a 1 man fast break!
He needs to continue getting stronger and working on his jump shot. I think he’s going to be first team all big ten in a couple of years!
ive never seen a kid who goes across the lane,jumps off the wrong foot and contorts his body to square himself to the basket and makes the shot. Unreal! His potential is off the charts.
He’s athletic, he’s fast and runs the floor. His most impressive play was when he got the rebound, dribbled the ball down the floor and and finished with a two handed dunk! He’s was a 1 man fast break!
He needs to continue getting stronger and working on his jump shot. I think he’s going to be first team all big ten in a couple of years!
Think he a lot of potential, but have to see how he progresses next year. Especially, shooting the ball and defense. His floor game is very good.
The kid's almost cat like in the air...
Not to mention he can actually defend. Hopefully see more man the years to come with a more athletic starting 5. Also him at the point of the press will cause issues with his length and athleticism. He’s going to have a very good career for us
I would like him to see more time with this team as I think we need his length, blocking ability, and his rebounding.
Solid role player who still, at times, tends to play like he's on the playground surrounded by his older brothers, who have made it abundantly clear that it is their team.
That probably sounds menacing, but that's not meant to knock the reality of Iowa's situation. That's just moreso a way to illustrate Patrick's play as a redshirt freshman coming off the bench for a veteran squad....
You misread my statement. I said that Pmac will I think be a scorer, but not a shooter, as Joe W IS a shooter.....
Is he a red shirt freshman or sophomore? I think freshman but can't recall. He should have 3 years of eligibility??
RS FR. He theoretically has 3 years left, but could opt for4 due to this year being free eligibility wise.
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We will see about hitting his ceiling. Yes, he is older for a freshman, but so are the Murray twins... I think all three have a big upside. Everyone reaches their physical peak at a different time. And for most basketball players it is usually 3+ years after college. For these guys it may be longer than average.
The thing about Keegan., PMac and Kris is that all three sprouted their senior years of high school. They have yet to grow into their bodies. They are just getting there. It takes a while to adjust to growing 4 inches in a year at a later age and being that tall...
As you mentioned, Patrick has the thyroid issue, and such the best medication does not allow him to gain weight. I think the main reason he had to take last year off, was to change his meds to allow him to gain weight. And it worked!!
The added weight is another adjustment to learn to play with.
The recent height and weight gains for these three are just starting to come into fruition. And at being just freshmen, that is a beautiful thing! The Hawkeye future looks bright for all 3. And just think, we haven't even seen Kris play yet!?! At least not much as a Hawkeye.... Kris WILL be a very good player for Iowa, there just isn't room in the lineup for him right now. I watched him and Keegan a lot at DME. They basically rotated as game MVP in 85% of their games. With Keegan getting a few more than Kris. But Kris had plenty of games where he was the top performer against good talented competiton.
He. Is. Good! Note it....
As for the McCaffery boys shooting form, Margaret was the one that taught them to shoot, per Fran. So we ought to be having a talk with her... There still maybe time to save Jack's shot!
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He’s got great length and a good floor IQ.
All-conference? You’re either a savant or just don’t watch other players around the league.
