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What happened to Iowa Football

Iowa used to punch above their weight, now you look like a 2 star laden team..Maybe Kirk's message is not getting through anymore and it's time to go watch the grandkids grow up.

I look like a 2 star laden team? I know I've put on weight but come on...

I think you meant they. We are fans. The team is a separate entity.
 
Funny how Iowa's lines had all the push and outlasted BC's energy in the second half, even down 3 starters on the OL.

Superior conditioning by Doyle brought them through!
 
I get that you're an asshat. Is there more that I need to know?

You should look up the donation issue that was originally brought up. Your response had no connection to it. The tax law changed and it will have a significant impact on funding for college athletics. Not tv money significant but impactful.
 
You should look up the donation issue that was originally brought up. Your response had no connection to it. The tax law changed and it will have a significant impact on funding for college athletics. Not tv money significant but impactful.
I think the impact will not be as much as some people think. I am not saying that it will have no impact at all but not as much as people are saying. That goes for all charities in my opinion that are getting actual dollars. The Charities that are getting actual items like a Goodwill it's going to hurt much more.
 
What happened to Iowa football?? Well, just finished 8-5 against one of the nation's toughest schedules with a lot of young, unproven players.

Not too shabby. I'd say Iowa football is in pretty good shape right now.


What happened is better asked to ISUx and the fuskers. Their combined record against Iowa was ZERO wins and both were losers.

Tough schedule, check, the 6 hardest schedule of all D1 teams.
 
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Didn't we lose 2 games by one play at the end. And another by the last drive by the opponent??? Don't you think with 2 experienced Olinemen not missing most of the year we might, just might have won those games? 11-2 sounds like a pretty good team.
 
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Maybe someone else can explain it to you. JFC some of you people are so stupid. Who ties your shoes in the morning?
Of course you cannot explain it to me because you are the one who is too damn stupid. So, tell me, who gets to be on top, you or Legend as you two seem to be perfectly matched in your on line demeanor. I'm just saying that if Ferentz wants to donate cash to the University and do so with the same benefit as a tax deduction there are ways to do it from an accounting standpoint. And, no one but the beneficiary comes out ahead when you donate money and then deduct it from your income unless you are in the 100 plus % tax bracket. And, to answer your last question, your momma ties my shoes before she gets up from her knees.
 
Iowa has a twitter ban because of the reach and immediacy of the platform.

The players can use IG and Snapchat, which is all they really care about anyways.
 
Of course you cannot explain it to me because you are the one who is too damn stupid. So, tell me, who gets to be on top, you or Legend as you two seem to be perfectly matched in your on line demeanor. I'm just saying that if Ferentz wants to donate cash to the University and do so with the same benefit as a tax deduction there are ways to do it from an accounting standpoint. And, no one but the beneficiary comes out ahead when you donate money and then deduct it from your income unless you are in the 100 plus % tax bracket. And, to answer your last question, your momma ties my shoes before she gets up from her knees.
It has nothing to do with Kirk Ferentz donating money. Nothing at all.
 
It has nothing to do with Kirk Ferentz donating money. Nothing at all.
Look, dumbass, here is the progression about Kirk's salary and donations and note that you commented .

Cowboy4262 said:
''KF, and his boy BF taking Iowa's money and laughing all the way to the bank''

Scotthawk1964
''KF, and his boy BF taking Iowa's money and laughing all the way to the bank
Well that's sad considering you pay his salary. Oops I mean you don't, fully funded by the football athletic Revenue. But I do have to say I'm amused everytime I see somebody write something about the coaching staff taking their money like that's all they care about, thats stupid. And not even remotely accurate.''
ScoutRefugee
''I have to wonder how much longer that's going to be true, now that the mandatory donation is no longer tax deductible.''

****Note this conversation was exactly about KF and his tax deductible donations********

Mtown66
''You do know that it costs someone more to make a donation and then take that as a tax deduction then to simply pay the taxes on your earnings, right? That is what has been happening, so no, the money isn't that important at this point. There are ways to get around the donation issue. Kirk could simply sign a new contract that requires the University make a donation while taking a corresponding cut in salary.''
ScoutRefugee
''You don't get it.''
Mtown66
''I get that you're an asshat. Is there more that I need to know?''
ScoutRefugee
''Maybe someone else can explain it to you. JFC some of you people are so stupid. Who ties your shoes in the morning?''
Mtown66
''Of course you cannot explain it to me because you are the one who is too damn stupid. So, tell me, who gets to be on top, you or Legend as you two seem to be perfectly matched in your on line demeanor. I'm just saying that if Ferentz wants to donate cash to the University and do so with the same benefit as a tax deduction there are ways to do it from an accounting standpoint. And, no one but the beneficiary comes out ahead when you donate money and then deduct it from your income unless you are in the 100 plus % tax bracket. And, to answer your last question, your momma ties my shoes before she gets up from her knees.''

Which brings us back to you now saying our conversation has nothing to do with Kirk's donations. Seems, that was all it had to do with.
 
Look, dumbass, here is the progression about Kirk's salary and donations and note that you commented .

Cowboy4262 said:
''KF, and his boy BF taking Iowa's money and laughing all the way to the bank''

Scotthawk1964
''KF, and his boy BF taking Iowa's money and laughing all the way to the bank
Well that's sad considering you pay his salary. Oops I mean you don't, fully funded by the football athletic Revenue. But I do have to say I'm amused everytime I see somebody write something about the coaching staff taking their money like that's all they care about, thats stupid. And not even remotely accurate.''
ScoutRefugee
''I have to wonder how much longer that's going to be true, now that the mandatory donation is no longer tax deductible.''

****Note this conversation was exactly about KF and his tax deductible donations********

Mtown66
''You do know that it costs someone more to make a donation and then take that as a tax deduction then to simply pay the taxes on your earnings, right? That is what has been happening, so no, the money isn't that important at this point. There are ways to get around the donation issue. Kirk could simply sign a new contract that requires the University make a donation while taking a corresponding cut in salary.''
ScoutRefugee
''You don't get it.''
Mtown66
''I get that you're an asshat. Is there more that I need to know?''
ScoutRefugee
''Maybe someone else can explain it to you. JFC some of you people are so stupid. Who ties your shoes in the morning?''
Mtown66
''Of course you cannot explain it to me because you are the one who is too damn stupid. So, tell me, who gets to be on top, you or Legend as you two seem to be perfectly matched in your on line demeanor. I'm just saying that if Ferentz wants to donate cash to the University and do so with the same benefit as a tax deduction there are ways to do it from an accounting standpoint. And, no one but the beneficiary comes out ahead when you donate money and then deduct it from your income unless you are in the 100 plus % tax bracket. And, to answer your last question, your momma ties my shoes before she gets up from her knees.''

Which brings us back to you now saying our conversation has nothing to do with Kirk's donations. Seems, that was all it had to do with.
Wow! I'm the dumb ass??? Allow me to correct your reading comprehension problems. The first couple of posts had NOTHING TO DO WITH WHAT KF DONATES! It was discussing KF's salary. The comment of importance to which I responded to was: "Well that's sad considering you pay his salary. Oops I mean you don't, fully funded by the football athletic Revenue". To which I responded "I have to wonder how much longer that's going to be true, now that the mandatory donation is no longer tax deductible.''
The mandatory donation is what season ticket holders pay, to secure the seats they want.
Your response referencing restructuring KF's salary to allow Iowa to make donations for KF....is completely unrelated to the conversation! COMPLETELY UNRELATED!
I'm sorry that you're too retarded to comprehend what you read and continue to double down on your stupidity. That's a YOU problem.
Do yourself a favor, before you respond further. Read this link, pull your head out of your ass and then come back here and apologize.
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct...ts-programs/&usg=AOvVaw39DvzNIu0HaxpJSk23G---
 
This. The rest is just BS from dumb "fans"
Spot on. A bunch of whiners who are not objective enough to analyze the odds of flipping a coin.

First, look at our average recruiting rankings in the 45-50 range. Yet we win more than most teams who recruit in our range(including 12-0 record 2 years ago). So KF is doing something right. Now you can say he needs to recruit better. He is doing that the last 3 classes, so I am optimistic about the near future. And we will NEVER get the level of recruits that OSU, PSU, Mich and other Blue Bloods get. They have tons more talent in their back yard and have better tradition, so stop your whining.

KF has put a very high rate of players into the NFL. We don't have the depth that the Blue Bloods have, so when we have an injury like we did on the OL this year, it definitely hurts, yet we beat the snot out of OSU, were close against PSU, MSU, NW & Purdue. Only Wisconsin owned us this year.

KF has not been able to recruit top talent at the WR position. That is his biggest downfall. That changes how you have to game plan. Once we get some weapons at the WR position, our OL can be dominators because they won't be blocking against 8 man fronts. Next years WR's & TE's might be good enough to open up the defenses.

OP is a new poster (possibly a long time poster with a new name) trying to stir up the pot, which many on here have taken the bite. I think Iowa could average 8.5 to 9 wins/year over a 10 year period with KF, but winning the BIG every 10 years is about the best I would hope for. Look at Blue Blood Michigan: averaged 7.5 wins per season over the last 10 years and 9.5 wins the previous 10 years. Notre Lame has average 7.5 wins over the last 20 years, yet they average top 11-12 in recruiting over that same period. Some insane expectations....or just agitators in the crowd here.
 
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Wow! I'm the dumb ass??? Allow me to correct your reading comprehension problems. The first couple of posts had NOTHING TO DO WITH WHAT KF DONATES! It was discussing KF's salary. The comment of importance to which I responded to was: "Well that's sad considering you pay his salary. Oops I mean you don't, fully funded by the football athletic Revenue". To which I responded "I have to wonder how much longer that's going to be true, now that the mandatory donation is no longer tax deductible.''
The mandatory donation is what season ticket holders pay, to secure the seats they want.
Your response referencing restructuring KF's salary to allow Iowa to make donations for KF....is completely unrelated to the conversation! COMPLETELY UNRELATED!
I'm sorry that you're too retarded to comprehend what you read and continue to double down on your stupidity. That's a YOU problem.
Do yourself a favor, before you respond further. Read this link, pull your head out of your ass and then come back here and apologize.
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwjhi6XliLDYAhUB44MKHbnVAcIQFggpMAA&url=https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/sports/wp/2017/12/22/why-the-new-gop-tax-law-is-setting-off-a-dash-for-cash-at-many-major-college-sports-programs/&usg=AOvVaw39DvzNIu0HaxpJSk23G---
I now understand but the whole damn confusion would have been eliminated if you were not such an asshat. All you had to do was to say what you just said rather than to arrogantly state that I didn't get it. The confusion in any conversation always lays on the one with the knowledge, not the one who is confused. In your case I would venture to say that you have that happen a lot. If you're expecting any form of apology from me when the whole issue would have been settled if you weren't such a heathen is ridiculous. If anyone deserves an apology, it would be from you to those mentally challenged individuals that you refer to as retards. And, the whole scheme of the mandatory donations was a scam to avoid paying taxes when, in reality, it was just higher ticket pricing for the University. That kind of practice needed to be shut down.
 
I now understand but the whole damn confusion would have been eliminated if you were not such an asshat. All you had to do was to say what you just said rather than to arrogantly state that I didn't get it. The confusion in any conversation always lays on the one with the knowledge, not the one who is confused. In your case I would venture to say that you have that happen a lot. If you're expecting any form of apology from me when the whole issue would have been settled if you weren't such a heathen is ridiculous. If anyone deserves an apology, it would be from you to those mentally challenged individuals that you refer to as retards. And, the whole scheme of the mandatory donations was a scam to avoid paying taxes when, in reality, it was just higher ticket pricing for the University. That kind of practice needed to be shut down.
I don't care to hold poster's hands through their reading comprehension issues. I wouldn't know where to start. You failed to understand several posts by multiple posters.
 
I don't care to hold poster's hands through their reading comprehension issues.
You are a dumb ass. I'd put my IQ against yours any day. I'd put my career against yours any day. Like I said, all you had to do was to communicate like a human being and I would have known exactly what you were talking about.
 
You are a dumb ass. I'd put my IQ against yours any day. I'd put my career against yours any day. Like I said, all you had to do was to communicate like a human being and I would have known exactly what you were talking about.
You can't even figure out what the Hell you're reading! How can you sit there and call someone else a dumb ass? You even went so far as to copy/paste every post you failed to understand, in some ridiculous attempt to prove that I'm the dumb one. How did you drag all of those posts together and still manage to fail to grasp the conversation? You should be embarrassed.
 
Tell that to teams like Nebraska.... a coaching carousel every few years drains the life out of a program. Stability is the answer.

Then theres Wisconsin who changes coaches every other year and keeps putting more and more seperation between us and them.

We used to be better than them.

If you can use Nebraska as an example I can use Wisconsin. Also Penn state, Michigan, Ohio State, Purdue, Minnesota. Have all improved their coaching situations recently.

Yes some times it doesn't work but watching your team spin its wheels into a rut of mediocrity is not interesting to me.
 
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Then theres Wisconsin who changes coaches every other year and keeps putting more and more seperation between us and them.

We used to be better than them.

If you can use Nebraska as an example I can use Wisconsin. Also Penn state, Michigan, Ohio State, Purdue, Minnesota. Have all improved their coaching situations recently.

Yes some times it doesn't work but watching your team spin its wheels into a rut of mediocrity is not interesting to me.

Agreed - getting beat is one thing, but Iowa got absolutely mauled in Madison this year. Wisconsin doesn't out-talent anybody, not even Iowa. If I'm not mistaken, they have fewer 4+ star athletes on their roster than we do this year.

Wisconsin's good for one reason and one reason only - King Barry. BA knows how to run an athletic department well, unlike Gary Barta.
 
Physical on Offense and Defense, Oline that would knock you back, RB's that would eat away 4-5 yards at a time?

This is the softest Hawkeyes team in a long time and i'm not even a Fan
And you're dumb as hell when it comes to football. Iowa lost it's 2 offensive tackles and replaced with 2 freshmen O-lineman earlier in the season. In the BC game Jackson( one of the freshmen tackles) was replaced with another backup offensive lineman. O-line is one of the harder positions to play in football as it takes all 5 lineman to play together to make a OL good. It often takes a couple of seasons for some lineman to play at a college level. Go back to watching women tennis and forget about football.
 
And you're dumb as hell when it comes to football. Iowa lost it's 2 offensive tackles and replaced with 2 freshmen O-lineman earlier in the season. In the BC game Jackson( one of the freshmen tackles) was replaced with another backup offensive lineman. O-line is one of the harder positions to play in football as it takes all 5 lineman to play together to make a OL good. It often takes a couple of seasons for some lineman to play at a college level. Go back to watching women tennis and forget about football.

I remember when everyone beat their chest about "next man in" and "bullies of the big ten".

Its been so long that I dont think you guys realize how far away from that Iowa is now.

Now its just excuses.
 
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You do know that it costs someone more to make a donation and then take that as a tax deduction then to simply pay the taxes on your earnings, right? That is what has been happening, so no, the money isn't that important at this point. There are ways to get around the donation issue. Kirk could simply sign a new contract that requires the University make a donation while taking a corresponding cut in salary.

I don't think you understand personal taxes. It's pretty simple--season ticket holders are required to make donations that were tax deductible when itemizing. No no longer deductible. No one was talking about how KF's contract is structured---for all we know he will become a C-Corporation and pay a lot less taxes on % basis than most of us posters.
 
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What happened to Iowa football?? Well, just finished 8-5 against one of the nation's toughest schedules with a lot of young, unproven players.

Not too shabby. I'd say Iowa football is in pretty good shape right now.

We beat OSU and what other good team?

Season was okay. KF gets two cream puff's scheduled at home each year, so he really only needs to go 4-6 vs his peers to be at 6-6. This year he went 5-5 vs his peers.
 
You can't even figure out what the Hell you're reading! How can you sit there and call someone else a dumb ass? You even went so far as to copy/paste every post you failed to understand, in some ridiculous attempt to prove that I'm the dumb one. How did you drag all of those posts together and still manage to fail to grasp the conversation? You should be embarrassed.
We were talking about two different things. It happens a lot when one of the communicators is more interested in being arrogant and name calling. I admitted that I was talking about something else so why don't you just drop it? I'm not embarrassed at all. Why should I be. You're the one making an ass out of yourself.
 
I don't think you understand personal taxes. It's pretty simple--season ticket holders are required to make donations that were tax deductible when itemizing. No no longer deductible. No one was talking about how KF's contract is structured---for all we know he will become a C-Corporation and pay a lot less taxes on % basis than most of us posters.
Exactly. I thought the conversation was about Kirk and HIS donations because the other poster was trashing Kirk because of his salary. My bad. However it could have been cleared up with one post such as the one that you made. Unfortunately, I was caught up in the assh*le lane and couldn't get out. What I do understand is that when any expenditure is mandatory, it is not a charitable donation and it should not be deductible.
 
We were talking about two different things. It happens a lot when one of the communicators is more interested in being arrogant and name calling. I admitted that I was talking about something else so why don't you just drop it? I'm not embarrassed at all. Why should I be. You're the one making an ass out of yourself.
Consider it dropped. I tried to drop it after your first post. You wouldn't let me.
 
Wow a lot of hate on this IOWA site.... I would agree with a lot that has been said with regards to the physicality of Iowa Football. Like I've said all year and last year, who are we,,,,,,,we have lost our identity of being the most physical......but I wouldn't blame Doyle, he is good,maybe overpaid but , he essentially has more contact time then any of the other coaches, he sets the tone year round with these guys, does most of the dirty work.
 
Wow ... didn’t think the free board attracted this many completely clueless posters on the subject of college football. The fake fans (probably ISU fans) or bandwagoners think Iowa should be able to roll the ball out and routinely pick up 10 wins a year .... idiots.
 
I remember when everyone beat their chest about "next man in" and "bullies of the big ten".

Its been so long that I dont think you guys realize how far away from that Iowa is now.

Now its just excuses.
You're dumber than the poster. If you have ever played a game of football you would know there's a different between an experience starter who has played with the 1st string most of the year and a backup who has to learn basically on the run. If Iowa had 4-5 star recruits it might be a different story.

I've watched Iowa play since 1968 and seen Iowa go from a trash heap to play respectable football. So son you have no idea what your talking about. Iowa has never made excuses. Give me a break.
 
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