What happens to Grocery prices . . .

[bunsen82]

If Trump truly gets rid of a large percentage of migrant workers, which are a high percentage of the work force in meat packing plants, and farm workers that harvest all kinds of vegetables and fruits, who will replace these workers, and at what price . . . and how much will the prices increase at the grocery store. The short sightedness of these polices and the fact that Conservatives think that Trump will lower inflation is appalling to anyone who has a smidge of intelligence.

 

[QChawks]

stop thinking logically

 

[ericram]

Then the poors can't afford healthy food to feed their families. Oh wait, they don't buy healthy food. It's cheaper to eat junk and fast food.

But the cost of eggs you say? Maybe. Have to cut back. The food stamps won't go the whole month.

Will have to work a 3rd job. Bootstraps.

 

[bunsen82]

These policies will effect the lower educated and lower wealth families disproportionately, which is 80% of Trumps voting block.

 

[McLovin32]

 

[tarheelbybirth]

If Trump truly gets rid of a large percentage of migrant workers, which are a high percentage of the work force in meat packing plants, and farm workers that harvest all kinds of vegetables and fruits, who will replace these workers, and at what price . . . and how much will the prices increase at the grocery store. The short sidedness of these polices and the fact that Conservatives think that Trump will lower inflation is appalling to anyone who has a smidge of intelligence.

If you want wages to rise, you really can’t have deflation so there’s that. Smartest move would be what he did first time. Nothing. Ride the wave of the economy he inherited until it runs out. Everyone talking about how the economy in his first term was so good would be hard-pressed to point to anything he actually did. The arc it was following when he took office didn’t change for the first years he was “in charge”. The bigger problem now is he might be emboldened to actually do some of the stupid shit he’s proposed.

 

[hawkeyetraveler]

If you want wages to rise, you really can’t have deflation so there’s that. Smartest move would be what he did first time. Nothing. Ride the wave of the economy he inherited until it runs out. Everyone talking about how the economy in his first term was so good would be hard-pressed to point to anything he actually did. The arc it was following when he took office didn’t change for the first years he was “in charge”. The bigger problem now is he might be emboldened to actually do some of the stupid shit he’s proposed.

The one area that will boost the short term economy is lowering the corporate tax rate. Of course that f*cks the deficit, but hey he will be dead by the time that bill comes due.

 

[tarheelbybirth]

The one area that will boost the short term economy is lowering the corporate tax rate. Of course that f*cks the deficit, but hey he will be dead by the time that bill comes due.

Except Clinton raised taxes on them and the economy roared…AND we ended up with a balanced budget. Go figure. *shrug*

 

[jonesy5960]

Virtually everything he campaigned on from an economic perspective is highly inflationary and will explode the deficit. Because of this my guess is that he does virtually none of it while making small moves in order to satisfy the rubes. The deficit will start to rise and inflation will begin to take hold making them back off of most of what they were talking about.

 

[BlIIlken2]

Maybe we can just import more via free trade…

 

[noStemsnoSTICKS]

If you want wages to rise, you really can’t have deflation so there’s that. Smartest move would be what he did first time. Nothing. Ride the wave of the economy he inherited until it runs out. Everyone talking about how the economy in his first term was so good would be hard-pressed to point to anything he actually did. The arc it was following when he took office didn’t change for the first years he was “in charge”. The bigger problem now is he might be emboldened to actually do some of the stupid shit he’s proposed.

Spot on.

Plus, trumpers blame Covid for the trump recession and unemployment explosion. Fact is, covid didn't go away when trump left. Biden just did a better job at navigating us through it. History has shown how republicans have destroyed our economy, only to have Democrats repair it. I have no doubts we'll go through the same ebb and flow this time.

 

[Colonoscopy]

If Trump truly gets rid of a large percentage of migrant workers, which are a high percentage of the work force in meat packing plants, and farm workers that harvest all kinds of vegetables and fruits, who will replace these workers, and at what price . . . and how much will the prices increase at the grocery store. The short sidedness of these polices and the fact that Conservatives think that Trump will lower inflation is appalling to anyone who has a smidge of intelligence.

It'll probably be up to his admin, ultimately, and they'll probably think better of it.

 

[desihawk]

If Trump truly gets rid of a large percentage of migrant workers, which are a high percentage of the work force in meat packing plants, and farm workers that harvest all kinds of vegetables and fruits, who will replace these workers, and at what price . . . and how much will the prices increase at the grocery store. The short sidedness of these polices and the fact that Conservatives think that Trump will lower inflation is appalling to anyone who has a smidge of intelligence.

he did attend wharton so perhaps he thinks that getting rid of them will also reduce demand thereby lowering price.

 

[Menace Sockeyes]

It’s going to be hilarious watching the morons who voted for a serial liar on just his “concepts of a plan” do actually nothing to fix the things they voted for him for.

 

[The Tradition]

Union pressure on wages and prices goes away….

 

[MuscoHawk]

The bigger problem now is he might be emboldened to actually do some of the stupid shit he’s proposed.

This. He doesn’t have to worry about a second term and he’s probably only got 5-10 years of life left. He’ll definitely be in IDGAF mode.

 

[McLovin32]

This. He doesn’t have to worry about a second term and he’s probably only got 5-10 years of life left. He’ll definitely be in IDGAF mode.

He's been in IDGAF mode. The guy deep throated a microphone like a week before the election.

 

[bunsen82]

It'll probably be up to his admin, ultimately, and they'll probably think better of it.

You heard who he picked for border czar and what he has already stated?

 

[Colonoscopy]

You heard who he picked for border czar and what he has already stated?

Yeah, somebody gungho on deportation. The logistics and reality of the task will probably cause them pull up short of what their rhetoric promises. (Is my guess)

 

[General Tso]

Trump is inflationary.

 

[NorthernHawkeye]

If Trump truly gets rid of a large percentage of migrant workers, which are a high percentage of the work force in meat packing plants, and farm workers that harvest all kinds of vegetables and fruits, who will replace these workers, and at what price . . . and how much will the prices increase at the grocery store. The short sidedness of these polices and the fact that Conservatives think that Trump will lower inflation is appalling to anyone who has a smidge of intelligence.

Do you support NOT enforcing our laws?

 

[seminole97]

If Trump truly gets rid of a large percentage of migrant workers, which are a high percentage of the work force in meat packing plants, and farm workers that harvest all kinds of vegetables and fruits, who will replace these workers, and at what price . . . and how much will the prices increase at the grocery store. The short sidedness of these polices and the fact that Conservatives think that Trump will lower inflation is appalling to anyone who has a smidge of intelligence.

 

[seminole97]

Except Clinton raised taxes on them and the economy roared…AND we ended up with a balanced budget. Go figure. *shrug*

We ended up with a balanced budget because the Gingrinch House held the growth rate of spending below the growth rate of the economy.
As a share of GDP federal spending was 33% lower than now.

 

[Colonoscopy]

Do you support NOT enforcing our laws?

Could enforce law doesn't mean you should enforce law

 

[NorthernHawkeye]

You heard who he picked for border czar and what he has already stated?

No worries, the media will just insist that he wasn't really the border czar.

 

[TNHAWK79]

If Trump truly gets rid of a large percentage of migrant workers, which are a high percentage of the work force in meat packing plants, and farm workers that harvest all kinds of vegetables and fruits, who will replace these workers, and at what price . . . and how much will the prices increase at the grocery store. The short sidedness of these polices and the fact that Conservatives think that Trump will lower inflation is appalling to anyone who has a smidge of intelligence.

Migrant workers are legal and have been working for years if not decades. The real fallacy was cracking down on price gauging when the spread on groceries in 2%.

The real question is will you give credit to Trump and his plan when prices decline or just fine something else to complain about?

 

[NorthernHawkeye]

Could enforce law doesn't mean you should enforce law

Oh puhleeze...

 

[bunsen82]

Do you support NOT enforcing our laws?

I understand economics. I also am strong supporter of immigration. The system needs massively revamped. Someone claiming asylum shouldn’t have to become an illegal to claim asylum (currently they do now). We should have a quota system supported by employers.

 

[Sullivan]

If Trump truly gets rid of a large percentage of migrant workers, which are a high percentage of the work force in meat packing plants, and farm workers that harvest all kinds of vegetables and fruits, who will replace these workers, and at what price . . . and how much will the prices increase at the grocery store. The short sidedness of these polices and the fact that Conservatives think that Trump will lower inflation is appalling to anyone who has a smidge of intelligence.

I can think of a couple of places:

1. Reduce the length of time in collecting unemployment benefits. You will reduce federal spending, and increase the pool of workers.

2. Trump and Elan plan to fire a lot of government workers. They can fill many of the positions.

I imagine the D’s will make up the majority of both groups.

 

[NorthernHawkeye]

I understand economics. I also am strong supporter of immigration. The system needs massively revamped. Someone claiming asylum shouldn’t have to become an illegal to claim asylum (currently they do now). We should have a quota system supported by employers.

The asylum is being abused. It wasn't intended or designed for this.

 

[bunsen82]

Migrant workers are legal and have been working for years if not decades. The real fallacy was cracking down on price gauging when the spread on groceries in 2%.

The real question is will you give credit to Trump and his plan when prices decline or just fine something else to complain about?

 

[bunsen82]

Isn’t it funny how all the right wing posters show up at once.its like the bat signal.

 

[Colonoscopy]

Oh puhleeze...

I'm totally serious. Every tax transgression? Every instance of jay walking?

At some point it's not worth it and pursuit of enforcement outweighs benefit.

Secondly...

Law is necessarily incomplete in that it does not possess the resolution to (correctly) adjudicate every possible permutation of events we might encounter.

The legal landscape is and always will be replete with non enforcement. And it makes sense. (Conditionally)

 

[bunsen82]

https://www.ppic.org/publication/undocumented-immigrants-in-california/

Just to show some people’s stupidity. Over 20% of California agricultural workers are illegals. I’ve been told it’s close to 30%. If you remove even 3% you will see significant inflation.

 

[Hans81]

If Trump truly gets rid of a large percentage of migrant workers, which are a high percentage of the work force in meat packing plants, and farm workers that harvest all kinds of vegetables and fruits, who will replace these workers, and at what price . . . and how much will the prices increase at the grocery store. The short sightedness of these polices and the fact that Conservatives think that Trump will lower inflation is appalling to anyone who has a smidge of intelligence.

Trump said he’s getting rid of “criminal illegal migrants” so your question is likely moot.

 

[bunsen82]

Trump said he’s getting rid of “criminal illegal migrants” so your question is likely moot.

They claim all illegals are criminals. Hell he said he is going to clean up Springfield Ohio which actually are legal immigrants.

 

[BlIIlken2]

Trump said he’s getting rid of “criminal illegal migrants” so your question is likely moot.

trump might be saying that but his handlers will be trying to do something different. They’re removing them all.

 

[Colonoscopy]

trump might be saying that but his handlers will be trying to do something different. They’re removing them all.

I think it's fair to say we don't know exactly what the hell we're getting with Trump on a particular issue because goes off half-cocked without thinking the majority of the time.

 

[artradley]

It’s going to be hilarious watching the morons who voted for a serial liar on just his “concepts of a plan” do actually nothing to fix the things they voted for him for.

They don’t care. The only thing they care about is that libs are unhappy. As long as he keeps making us unhappy, he is their god.

 

[BlIIlken2]

I think it's fair to say we don't know exactly what the hell we're getting with Trump on a particular issue because goes off half-cocked without thinking the majority of the time.

Well it’s tough when all you have is concepts of plans but then let all your mouth breathers do the work for you.