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It isnt a load of crap, it is true. You’re telling me that the B10 West was a tough division? It definitely wasnt.
Status quo question:
- we hide behind the “Iowa is a developmental program” moniker and I hate it. We “cant get” 5 star recruits cause we are just little ol’ Iowa. BS, we have just as much to offer as any other school. The facilities, fanbase, town, academics, gameday atmosphere, etc are all great. The only real knock against us is weather but even with that, I think it is overblown. Doesnt keep PSU, OSU, Mich, ND or even Boise St from success.
- the offense doesnt have to be this bad but KF was so stubborn that he allowed him and his son to tank it and now it will take some time to dig out of that. At some points it felt like he was intentionally leaving the D to win games just out of spite because of the negative press that him and BF were getting.
- it is true that winning is winning but it doesnt have to be by 1 pt or 9-6. Sometimes he’s so conservative that the margins are so thin and if something goes wrong, it can cost us the game. Doesnt seem to have a killer instinct and I want that in a coach/program. Win by 100, not 1.
That being said, I think KF is a class act and a great human being but like all of us, he has his faults as well and is not above criticism. There are things I wish he would adapt to and he just refuses.
It’ll be interesting to see what direction we go when he retires
I may have misunderstood what you meant when you originally said you weren't ok with the status quo. To me, that means you are overall dissatisfied with the Iowa football program. Is that fair to say?
If so, I don't understand how winning margin trumps winning. That seems to be the only current characteristic of Iowa football you mentioned.
You started by mentioning what seems to be frustration with Iowa fans that are ok with the status quo. I can see why what you mentioned could be frustrating. But it's not related the the status quo of the Iowa football program. And I'm plenty comfortable speaking for those fans by saying the main reason they are ok with the status quo of the Iowa football program is the results.
Other things to react to:
-I never said the West was a tough division. But since you asked, I do believe all schedules to be tough. NOTHING about football is easy, especially winning. A program that's already long been successful gets moved into a new division and continues to be successful. I think to chalk that up to the new division is a huge leap and a disrespectful one, at that. And I don't buy playing in the West as a reason to have overall dissatisfaction with Iowa football. It isn't Iowa's fault to have played those teams. And I guarantee before each season of Iowa playing in the West, you didn't look at the schedule and determine the only way you'd be satisfied with the regular season is if Iowa were to go undefeated through it.
-You mentioned how climate hasn't kept a handful of schools from being successful. Nor has it kept Iowa from being successful.
-You mentioned, the offense "doesn't have to be this bad". I don't know if that means you're calling Iowa's offense "bad", or not. But Iowa's offense was not "bad" this season. And I certainly wouldn't characterize the reasons it was bad the previous two seasons, as you have. And you can't possibly actually believe that KF would make any on-field decisions for the purpose of spiting fans. Just stop.
-And KF most definitely has a killer instinct.
But I was never going to accept any reasons you gave for being dissatisfied overall with Iowa football, anyway. That's because I don't believe there to be justification for such stance. So I'll leave you alone now. Was just curious what your reasoning was
You don't think some of those teams would have finished in the top 25 had they not picked up a loss vs Iowa?
A bonus question for Gray: what's your point?
They were pretty darn legitimate when Iowa beat them.
You don't think Iowa banging up their QB had any negative effect on their season?
The readiness of fans to devalue winning is disgusting. It's a disrespect to athletes and coaches across sports
I would take an elite D with zero offense over an above average D with a good offense every time
I remember the game quite well.
And my point remains that to say it looks like Iowa hasn't tried on offense in 5 years is not accurate
Syracuse will finish the season in the top 20. Iowa won't. You are arguing something that can't be proven.
My point is this: wins against Illinois State, Troy, and Northwestern don't impress me. I want to hope that the team I have followed for over 40 years has at least a fighting chance to win against a good team. I no longer do and will not as long as Ferentz runs the program. No game-changing WR is coming here as long as he is coach. No defense is going to respect the passing game and will attack the LOS every play like they have for years.
And how many teams would have finished in the top 25 if they hadn't lost to Iowa? A P4 team with 3 or less losses is probably going to finish in the Top 25. 2021 PSU lost to five teams NOT named Iowa. Same thing with ISU that year. They were in the top 10 when Iowa played them. So was Indiana. All three teams turned out to be hugely overrated that year.
You’re welcome to your opinion and I’m welcome to mine. I cant help it if you want to be wrong
I don't work for any of the betting services. Neither do you. Why are you so sure Iowa would be favored against Syracuse? Syracuse beat Miami with Ward playing the entire game. Miami was thrashing ISU when Ward was in the game. ISU beat Iowa. Syracuse was the best team in their conference. Iowa was sixth in their conference.
You are quite confused.
Rather than unpack it all, just one quick point:
-very few game changing WR's exist on the planet. They never have and never will go to Iowa. How will Iowa's, or virtually everyone's offense ever produce?
I would pick Syracuse to beat Iowa if the were playing tomorrow. Again, I have no influence over who the betting services favor.
ISU has 2-3 WRs mist years that are better than anyone on Iowa's roster. Why is that?
Why is it that Iowa is 6-2 vs the clowns since Campbell got there?
our D is no where near elite--they are very good and have been very good--but teams like OSU-Tenn-Stanford-Purdiue have beat them like a drum many times over--
also do not laugh about what I said about the BF offfense running 30-35 plays a game and how much worse could a more open offense be on our D after all of that--tell me why that is wrong-
You are trying way too hard ot be the know it all of Iowa fball and you are not correct on every detail.
Let's even talk player--you said Shulte had improved every year? you honestly think he played better this yr than last-? he was one of the people that should have moved on and allowed one of our younger guys some experience--
Why is it that Iowa hasn't beaten a team that finished in the top 25 since 2019?
Bump since Eyes requested it.
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"Iowa suffered from less emphasis on the D this season"
Post 19
"Iowa suffered from less emphasis on the D this season"
Second paragraph above:
"Iowa suffered from less emphasis on the D this season."
You asked, I delivered. Now, spend the weekend explaining how what you said isn't what you said.
"Iowa suffered from less emphasis on the D this season."
You asked, I delivered. Now, spend the weekend explaining how what you said isn't what you said.
Hmmm. This warrants re-visiting. Where did all those defensive stalwarts get drafted? One defensive starter drafted in the 5th round. Castro, Schulte, Higgins, Jackson, Harris, all multi-year starters: none of them drafted. I know, I know, all NFL GMs and scouts are idiots who obsess about meaningless measurable. The NFL would be in a far better position if teams averaged 13 points per game and punted 10 times per game.
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Perhaps #3 covered a multitude of shortcomings in ‘23? He allows PP a lot of latitude in his schemes. That was a real solid secondary. A great player can do that for a team
Post #159 in linked thread
Imagine if we had Tim Lester….
Evidently, I might be one of the few football fans in North America that is capable of thinking for himself. You don't know that KF wouldn't have changed OC's on his own after '23. Maybe, just maybe, KF knew the root of the offense stalling out had almost nothing to do with BF. Maybe, just...
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