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Zonk would look for somebody to run into.Watched the 30 for 30 on those two. Was fantastic.
That was the era of the fullback….ever team had one!Zonk would look for somebody to run into.
Little=WirfsCsonka, Kiick and Warfield were as good as it gets. I've been a Dolphins fan since 1971. Larry Little was a heck of a lineman, would be perfect for Iowa in today's game.
They ran a what we call today as a pro style offense. Griese, the qb, was always under center iirc, and they could be in I formation with a fullback leading a halfback, or split backs in more of a T formation, and sometimes Morris might be a wingback so a 3 back formation.Seems like Zonk was a halfback in a FB body. But no one has 2 rbs anymore. I watched a clip of Csonka running and Kiick was out blocking very well in front.
Anyway, clarification in type of O?
Warfield was ironically one helluva receiver. “Ironic” in the fact that as a collegiate at tOSU, Woody used him as a defensive back, punt/kick-off returned and played him maybe 5-10 offensive plays a game in obvious passing situations. tOSU with Woody hardly ever threw the football……I believe it was WOODY who said “Three things can happen when you throw the football and two of them are bad.” “3 yards and a cloud of dust” was typical tOSU Football for most of Woody’s tenure.They ran a what we call today as a pro style offense. Griese, the qb, was always under center iirc, and they could be in I formation with a fullback leading a halfback, or split backs in more of a T formation, and sometimes Morris might be a wingback so a 3 back formation.
They had really good receivers and one poster called Griese better than most which he was but he was very accurate, a great passer, he probably was allowed to audible a lot. They had a really good TEnd but they never emptied the backfield (no 5 receiver sets).
You got the story exactly correctWarfield was ironically one helluva receiver. “Ironic” in the fact that as a collegiate at tOSU, Woody used him as a defensive back, punt/kick-off returned and played him maybe 5-10 offensive plays a game in obvious passing situations. tOSU with Woody hardly ever threw the football……I believe it was WOODY who said “Three things can happen when you throw the football and two of them are bad.” “3 yards and a cloud of dust” was typical tOSU Football for most of Woody’s tenure.
Yep. It was said that Kiick ran around guys and Csonka ran into/over them ( and looked for them). Haven't seen any other backs like that I can remember.Zonk would look for somebody to run into.
Back then QBs called most of the plays, especially veterans. There were no radios in the helmets and hand signals weren’t a thing, so the only way for coaches to get a play in from the sideline was to run it in with a player substitution.They ran a what we call today as a pro style offense. Griese, the qb, was always under center iirc, and they could be in I formation with a fullback leading a halfback, or split backs in more of a T formation, and sometimes Morris might be a wingback so a 3 back formation.
They had really good receivers and one poster called Griese better than most which he was but he was very accurate, a great passer, he probably was allowed to audible a lot. They had a really good TEnd but they never emptied the backfield (no 5 receiver sets).
Earl Campbell used to run over a few, ok a lot of them back in the day.Yep. It was said that Kiick ran around guys and Csonka ran into/over them ( and looked for them). Haven't seen any other backs like that I can remember.
True, but not many left the debris behind that Czonka did on the field.That was the era of the fullback….ever team had one!
Along with Evans, Kuchenberg, Crusan and Demarco made a pretty salty O-line only to get better the next year with the addition of Jim Langer replacing Demarco at center.Csonka, Kiick and Warfield were as good as it gets. I've been a Dolphins fan since 1971. Larry Little was a heck of a lineman, would be perfect for Iowa in today's game.
Including Paul Warfield, a guy you don't hear discussed a lot but who is an NFL HOFer. He had the second most receiving yards among wrs in '71, just under 1000. Safe to say they knew how to throw the ball downfield and get it to a playmaker.They ran a what we call today as a pro style offense. Griese, the qb, was always under center iirc, and they could be in I formation with a fullback leading a halfback, or split backs in more of a T formation, and sometimes Morris might be a wingback so a 3 back formation.
They had really good receivers and one poster called Griese better than most which he was but he was very accurate, a great passer, he probably was allowed to audible a lot. They had a really good TEnd but they never emptied the backfield (no 5 receiver sets).
The ISeems like Zonk was a halfback in a FB body. But no one has 2 rbs anymore. I watched a clip of Csonka running and Kiick was out blocking very well in front.
Anyway, clarification in type of O?
Mercury was Mercury long effort his Miami days!Standard pro style 2-back split set (FB and HB) with QB under center. Zonk was NOT a halfback for God's sake. The man was a BIG powerful guy. His body should have been the mold for position of FB. From the time he was at Syracuse to NFL he was a human battering ram. Kick and Morris were HBs and Morris was very quick...hence why called Mercury.
Isn't that Kirk's philosophy? 🤣Warfield was ironically one helluva receiver. “Ironic” in the fact that as a collegiate at tOSU, Woody used him as a defensive back, punt/kick-off returned and played him maybe 5-10 offensive plays a game in obvious passing situations. tOSU with Woody hardly ever threw the football……I believe it was WOODY who said “Three things can happen when you throw the football and two of them are bad.” “3 yards and a cloud of dust” was typical tOSU Football for most of Woody’s tenure.
I don't think I said Zonk was a FB - at least didn't mean to. But he sure acted like a FB! But I didn't think back then teams ran with 2 HBs. They were a great combo.Standard pro style 2-back split set (FB and HB) with QB under center. Zonk was NOT a halfback for God's sake. The man was a BIG powerful guy. His body should have been the mold for position of FB. From the time he was at Syracuse to NFL he was a human battering ram. Kick and Morris were HBs and Morris was very quick...hence why called Mercury.
He was a fullbackI don't think I said Zonk was a FB - at least didn't mean to. But he sure acted like a FB! But I didn't think back then teams ran with 2 HBs. They were a great combo.
I did an undergraduate internship with the Dolphins. I got my ass chewed out and ripped to pieces by Shula 2x that year. Didn’t deserve either one.I wrote a letter to coach Shula in 1975.
Got an autographed team pic and Dolphin stickers in return.
Fond memories?I did an undergraduate internship with the Dolphins. I got my ass chewed out and ripped to pieces by Shula 2x that year. Didn’t deserve either one.