I like the singlets we wear right now. Recognized world wide. Leave as is.Originally posted by ISU1990:
I disagree...wear one singlet. Don't switch for any reason.
High Schools and Colleges should go to this kind of uniform. Cool factor for the sport would go way up.Originally posted by niawrestling:
Wouldn't hurt us at all to do something a little more flashy and/or some finals singlets. They'll still recognize an Iowa singlet. Not that we have to get on all trends...but I like this one. Market your sport/team.
Oh, geez, and I've been arguing with you in another thread? I'm sorry, I didn't realize you had a brain injury.Originally posted by artradley:
High Schools and Colleges should go to this kind of uniform. Cool factor for the sport would go way up.Originally posted by niawrestling:
Wouldn't hurt us at all to do something a little more flashy and/or some finals singlets. They'll still recognize an Iowa singlet. Not that we have to get on all trends...but I like this one. Market your sport/team.
That getup would not look so cool with shoes, socks, and headgear.Originally posted by theIowaHawk:
Oh, geez, and I've been arguing with you in another thread? I'm sorry, I didn't realize you had a brain injury.Originally posted by artradley:
High Schools and Colleges should go to this kind of uniform. Cool factor for the sport would go way up.Originally posted by niawrestling:
Wouldn't hurt us at all to do something a little more flashy and/or some finals singlets. They'll still recognize an Iowa singlet. Not that we have to get on all trends...but I like this one. Market your sport/team.
While there's no way to remove the dork factor of headgear, shoes and socks could easily be eliminated. It would make the mats cleaner, too, especially for the younger guys -- who make multiple trips to a skanky bathroom each day then run out onto the mat to spread urine and fecal material all over the place.Originally posted by pablow:
That getup would not look so cool with shoes, socks, and headgear.Originally posted by theIowaHawk:
Originally posted by artradley:
High Schools and Colleges should go to this kind of uniform. Cool factor for the sport would go way up.Originally posted by niawrestling:
Wouldn't hurt us at all to do something a little more flashy and/or some finals singlets. They'll still recognize an Iowa singlet. Not that we have to get on all trends...but I like this one. Market your sport/team.
If you have never caught a bare toe on a traditional wrestling mat, it hurts! Think of the toe skin getting some traction and the rest of the foot continuing in a different direction. Maybe some of the newer styles of mats that are foam with a "slicker" skin on top would be OK though?While there's no way to remove the dork factor of headgear, shoes and socks could easily be eliminated. It would make the mats cleaner, too, especially for the younger guys -- who make multiple trips to a skanky bathroom each day then run out onto the mat to spread urine and fecal material all over the place.
I'm mainly joking about that -- though I really am grossed out at youth tournaments. I do wish, however, that they would either switch to board shorts or compression gear. It won't happen because too many old farts would rather wrestling die than change uniforms, but it would be good for the sport if they ditched the singlets.Originally posted by Edgar Wade:
If you have never caught a bare toe on a traditional wrestling mat, it hurts! Think of the toe skin getting some traction and the rest of the foot continuing in a different direction. Maybe some of the newer styles of mats that are foam with a "slicker" skin on top would be OK though?While there's no way to remove the dork factor of headgear, shoes and socks could easily be eliminated. It would make the mats cleaner, too, especially for the younger guys -- who make multiple trips to a skanky bathroom each day then run out onto the mat to spread urine and fecal material all over the place.
You make a good point about that!Originally posted by artradley:
I'm mainly joking about that -- though I really am grossed out at youth tournaments.
Here is your opportunity:Originally posted by artradley:
they would either switch to board shorts or compression gear. ...... but it would be good for the sport if they ditched the singlets.
I don't know what "opportunity" I have, because it's not going to happen. But I've run a large youth program for over 10 years, and am very in-touch with kids in this sport. While some (my son included) don't mind the singlets at all, I have had top athletes who were interested in the sport ultimately decide against it specifically because the singlets look "dorky" to them. Other guys I talk to have had the same experience. Even those wrestlers who don't mind the singlets admit that to other kids the singlets are "nerdiforms."Originally posted by theIowaHawk:
Here is your opportunity:Originally posted by artradley:
they would either switch to board shorts or compression gear. ...... but it would be good for the sport if they ditched the singlets.
Why would it be good for the sport?
Hey, now. Have you eaten at one of the new Market Cafes inside Hy-Vee stores? Very good food. Every order comes with a free dish of prunes, too. That's a real draw for old farts like me.Originally posted by artradley:
I don't know what "opportunity" I have, because it's not going to happen. But I've run a large youth program for over 10 years, and am very in-touch with kids in this sport. While some (my son included) don't mind the singlets at all, I have had top athletes who were interested in the sport ultimately decide against it specifically because the singlets look "dorky" to them. Other guys I talk to have had the same experience. Even those wrestlers who don't mind the singlets admit that to other kids the singlets are "nerdiforms."Originally posted by theIowaHawk:
Here is your opportunity:Originally posted by artradley:
they would either switch to board shorts or compression gear. ...... but it would be good for the sport if they ditched the singlets.
Why would it be good for the sport?
You make the sport more "cool" to kids and you draw more athletes. You draw more athletes you draw more fans. Wrestling needs athletes and it needs fans -- anything that can draw them in is good for the sport.
People can scoff about it all they want. And old farts can complain about it around their table at Hy-Vee. But it's the truth.
This post was edited on 3/25 3:46 PM by artradley
Your opportunity is to make your case, which you have done poorly here.Originally posted by artradley:
I don't know what "opportunity" I have, because it's not going to happen. But I've run a large youth program for over 10 years, and am very in-touch with kids in this sport. While some (my son included) don't mind the singlets at all, I have had top athletes who were interested in the sport ultimately decide against it specifically because the singlets look "dorky" to them. Other guys I talk to have had the same experience. Even those wrestlers who don't mind the singlets admit that to other kids the singlets are "nerdiforms."Originally posted by theIowaHawk:
Here is your opportunity:Originally posted by artradley:
they would either switch to board shorts or compression gear. ...... but it would be good for the sport if they ditched the singlets.
Why would it be good for the sport?
You make the sport more "cool" to kids and you draw more athletes. You draw more athletes you draw more fans. Wrestling needs athletes and it needs fans -- anything that can draw them in is good for the sport.
People can scoff about it all they want. And old farts can complain about it around their table at Hy-Vee. But it's the truth.
This post was edited on 3/25 3:46 PM by artradley
It is the truth. I know most people on here disagree, and I don't have any metrics to confirm it. But you have no evidence on your side, either. Heck, you even admit that some kids have said they aren't wrestling because of the singlets -- but just chose to not believe them! Our sport is dying, and one of the reasons is people with your attitude.Originally posted by theIowaHawk:
Your opportunity is to make your case, which you have done poorly here.Originally posted by artradley:
I don't know what "opportunity" I have, because it's not going to happen. But I've run a large youth program for over 10 years, and am very in-touch with kids in this sport. While some (my son included) don't mind the singlets at all, I have had top athletes who were interested in the sport ultimately decide against it specifically because the singlets look "dorky" to them. Other guys I talk to have had the same experience. Even those wrestlers who don't mind the singlets admit that to other kids the singlets are "nerdiforms."Originally posted by theIowaHawk:
Here is your opportunity:Originally posted by artradley:
they would either switch to board shorts or compression gear. ...... but it would be good for the sport if they ditched the singlets.
Why would it be good for the sport?
You make the sport more "cool" to kids and you draw more athletes. You draw more athletes you draw more fans. Wrestling needs athletes and it needs fans -- anything that can draw them in is good for the sport.
People can scoff about it all they want. And old farts can complain about it around their table at Hy-Vee. But it's the truth.
This post was edited on 3/25 3:46 PM by artradley
You seem to be claiming that the young "top athletes" are simply turning down wrestling because of "dorky" singlets. And then "other guys" you've talked to say the same thing.
BUT, then all the people disagreeing with you just happen to be "old farts around a table at Hy-Vee". Yeah, great anecdotal bullsht.
Sorry that you are disappointed with all of the current "athletes" who seem to be choosing to wear singlets.
How about I give my anecdotal: All of the wrestlers I know/knew/still friends with not only didn't mind, but understood and liked their singlets. The ones who didn't? The ones who weren't wrestling regardless.
Call it the "truth" all you want, it, well, isn't.
Start a poll on here (probably been done before). Oh wait, that would just be old farts, right?
Agreed. How about this coach attire from Vision Quest?Originally posted by IamHawkeye:
What's dorky is the freestyle singlet. I can imagine kids growing up wearing the shorts and t-shirt pictured and on through college(if changed to that) and then not wanting to try for the Olympics because of the dorky singlets. Not.