What's Your Top Reason For Voting Republican?

[BABiscuit]

Retarded, or mentally retarded is just a condition. I don't need a euphemism for it. If I see a person who's mentally retarded out in public, I just think "hey, he's retarded" and go about my business. I don't address them verbally with "Scuse me, retarded guy!" Mentally retarded is actually ideal for me, because it refers to a very specific mental distinction that is congenital. Nothing to be ashamed of or afraid of. The rest of us, who aren't mentally-retarded (the actual medical condition), know we're not retarded, and the retarded people don't give a sh*t that they're retarded, and care even less what word we use to refer to them amongst ourselves.

What a simplistic view. Calling somebody retarded is meant to be an insult. Do you think that could be hurtful to a person that is "retarded" or to that person's family? How should the kid with a learning disability that struggles to keep up with his classmates feel when he is called retarded? Should he be like, I'm not technically mentally retarded so know big deal?

 

[strummingram]

What a simplistic view. Calling somebody retarded is meant to be an insult. Do you think that could be hurtful to a person that is "retarded" or to that person's family? How should the kid with a learning disability that struggles to keep up with his classmates feel when he is called retarded? Should he be like, I'm not technically mentally retarded so know big deal?

It's simplistic because it's a simple thing.

https://www.psychologytoday.com/conditions/mental-retardation

Kids calling each other names is a learned behavior, too. Do you think these euphemisms are somehow going to impede kids from teasing each other?

Mental Retardation needs no euphemism simply because the term bothers some people.

 

[NoleSoup4U]

I meant in the GOP field.

Kucinich seems less warlike, too.

I would have voted for Kucinich over most of the field. But the democrats are just as corporatist and warmongering as the republicans, therefore they weren't letting him get anywhere near the nomination.

 

[BABiscuit]

It's simplistic because it's a simple thing.

https://www.psychologytoday.com/conditions/mental-retardation

Kids calling each other names is a learned behavior, too. Do you think these euphemisms are somehow going to impede kids from teasing each other?

Mental Retardation needs no euphemism simply because the term bothers some people.

Your point would be valid if retarded was only used for individuals that met the definition of retarded. Nobody would care if the term was only used as intended. But it became an insult. Naturally, some didnt like it once it took on such a negative meaning.

 

[strummingram]

Your point would be valid if retarded was only used for individuals that met the definition of retarded. Nobody would care if the term was only used as intended. But it became an insult. Naturally, some didnt like it once it took on such a negative meaning.

And? People use moron, idiot, dipshit, and a myriad of other words! I see them used abundantly on here every day. Insults are a part of all our vocabularies. We choose to use them or not. Regardless, Those of us that are not retarded KNOW we're not clinically retarded! So, it just becomes an insult just like a moron or idiot. Just refrain from hurling insults and you're set! No need to invent euphemisms, or insist we "ban" the use of certain words. If you only use it as intended, then you've got nothing to be worried about. There's still absolutely no need to remove the word/term "retarded." Some of you people are off-the-charts sensitive.

 

[BABiscuit]

And? People use moron, idiot, dipshit, and a myriad of other words! I see them used abundantly on here every day. Insults are a part of all our vocabularies. We choose to use them or not. Regardless, Those of us that are not retarded KNOW we're not clinically retarded! So, it just becomes an insult just like a moron or idiot. Just refrain from hurling insults and you're set! No need to invent euphemisms, or insist we "ban" the use of certain words. If you only use it as intended, then you've got nothing to be worried about. There's still absolutely no need to remove the word/term "retarded." Some of you people are off-the-charts sensitive.

But people don't use it only as intended. That is why there is a problem with it. And I am not sensitive to the word. When I was younger, retard and fag were two of my favorite insults. But if a person with a disabled child or relative takes offense to a word and all I have to do is not use the word, I'm going to put in the effort because I am not a dickhead that has to make a point.

 

[strummingram]

But people don't use it only as intended. That is why there is a problem with it. And I am not sensitive to the word. When I was younger, retard and fag were two of my favorite insults. But if a person with a disabled child or relative takes offense to a word and all I have to do is not use the word, I'm going to put in the effort because I am not a dickhead that has to make a point.

It's really easy. You only use it as it is intended. If a person with a child that is clinically mentally retarded gets upset if you refer to their kid as being mentally retarded, then it sounds like they have some shame issues.
See... you just referred to me as a dickhead. Do it all the time if it makes you feel better. Obviously you never really outgrew your need to insult people. You just went from retard and fag to dickhead. That's awesome progress.

 

[NoleSoup4U]

But people don't use it only as intended. That is why there is a problem with it. And I am not sensitive to the word. When I was younger, retard and fag were two of my favorite insults. But if a person with a disabled child or relative takes offense to a word and all I have to do is not use the word, I'm going to put in the effort because I am not a dickhead that has to make a point.

You're ****ing retarded.

 

[BABiscuit]

It's really easy. You only use it as it is intended. If a person with a child that is clinically mentally retarded gets upset if you refer to their kid as being mentally retarded, then it sounds like they have some shame issues.
See... you just referred to me as a dickhead. Do it all the time if it makes you feel better. Obviously you never really outgrew your need to insult people. You just went from retard and fag to dickhead. That's awesome progress.

Dont worry, I am using dickhead as intended so it is okay.

But again, the reason retard is not appropriate is because people dont use it as intended. If you want to use it and declare it should be okay then go ahead. Nobody here will likely think less of you for using it.

 

[strummingram]

Dont worry, I am using dickhead as intended so it is okay.

But again, the reason retard is not appropriate is because people dont use it as intended. If you want to use it and declare it should be okay then go ahead. Nobody here will likely think less of you for using it.

People misuse almost every word there is. The trick is to not misuse them yourself. Words only hurt you if you allow them. Sticks and stones...

 

[What Would Jesus Do?]

I would have voted for Kucinich over most of the field. But the democrats are just as corporatist and warmongering as the republicans, therefore they weren't letting him get anywhere near the nomination.

Sad but true.

Even Howard Dean got the MSM shaft as soon as he gave them an opening.

 

[strummingram]

Dont worry, I am using dickhead as intended so it is okay.

But again, the reason retard is not appropriate is because people dont use it as intended. If you want to use it and declare it should be okay then go ahead. Nobody here will likely think less of you for using it.

By the way, if we went by your rules we'd have no language left to use. I hear hundreds of words every day that or not used as they were intended, or properly. But, that's not the fault of the words themselves. That is the fault of the user! Some people use "retarded" as an insult, that's true. Some people use retarded when it's appropriate, and how it was intended. If you know how to distinguish between the two, count yourself as fortunate and try and overlook those who can't. Because, I guarantee you, they will misuse a whole lot more.

 

[CeMar_Clone]

This is a fun list. #2 is my favorite. What's yours?

2. You like eating, drinking and breathing poison.

Many Republicans are calling for or voting for shrinking or eliminating agencies that protect us against poison. They seem to think that the corporations will do the right thing, without any pressure from the government.

https://www.dailykos.com/story/2011/09/25/1020037/-Top-10-reasons-to-vote-Republican

And the #1 reason to vote republican is I like to keep my own money. The democratic party taxes the middle class, they don't help it.

 

[strummingram]

And the #1 reason to vote republican is I like to keep my own money.

Now, THAT is honesty for ya. I can't speak for Jesus, but the Church would be proud of you!

 

[What Would Jesus Do?]

And the #1 reason to vote republican is I like to keep my own money. The democratic party taxes the middle class, they don't help it.

If you have a rational definition of "my money" I'd probably agree that you ought to be able to keep it. But if your definition of "my money" includes money directly or indirectly derived from theft, force, bribary, exploitation, oppression . . . then count me out. And unfortunately if your money isn't derived solely from your own mental or physical labor operation solely with your share of the commons and without harming others, then your money probably isn't what you think it is.

 

[NoleSoup4U]

By the way, if we went by your rules we'd have no language left to use. I hear hundreds of words every day that or not used as they were intended, or properly. But, that's not the fault of the words themselves. That is the fault of the user! Some people use "retarded" as an insult, that's true. Some people use retarded when it's appropriate, and how it was intended. If you know how to distinguish between the two, count yourself as fortunate and try and overlook those who can't. Because, I guarantee you, they will misuse a whole lot more.

I was at a party one time and I was making some great headway with this really cute Asian chick. I can't remember what the conversation was about anymore, but I used the "retard" during it. She just stopped, looked at me, and said, "I have a special needs brother, and I don't find that word appropriate." I just turned around, walked off, and found some other really cute girl to talk to. Who wants to end up having to take care of a retarded in-law later on in life. That would really cut into my drinking/golfing/watching ball games time right there.

 

[CeMar_Clone]

If you have a rational definition of "my money" I'd probably agree that you ought to be able to keep it. But if your definition of "my money" includes money directly or indirectly derived from theft, force, bribary, exploitation, oppression . . . then count me out. And unfortunately if your money isn't derived solely from your own mental or physical labor operation solely with your share of the commons and without harming others, then your money probably isn't what you think it is.

I personally don't know anyone that matches your criteria. I am an average joe. Here is the problem, in liberal land, anyone that has a job is evil. Pretty much what you just claimed.

 

[naturalmwa]

I personally don't know anyone that matches your criteria. I am an average joe. Here is the problem, in liberal land, anyone that has a job is evil. Pretty much what you just claimed.

You're getting some mileage out of your victim card today.

 

[CeMar_Clone]

Now, THAT is honesty for ya. I can't speak for Jesus, but the Church would be proud of you!

You understand nothing about the bible and wealth and charity.

 

[strummingram]

You understand nothing about the bible and wealth and charity.

Clearly, I don't. Especially if I use you as a guide.

 

[IACub]

I was at a party one time and I was making some great headway with this really cute Asian chick. I can't remember what the conversation was about anymore, but I used the "retard" during it. She just stopped, looked at me, and said, "I have a special needs brother, and I don't find that word appropriate." I just turned around, walked off, and found some other really cute girl to talk to. Who wants to end up having to take care of a retarded in-law later on in life. That would really cut into my drinking/golfing/watching ball games time right there.

You know, I actually appreciate guys like you. You don't hold your small minded, shitheel, redneck biases inside. You wear them on your sleeve so it's easy to just hate you up front instead of needing to make a judgment later on.

 

[What Would Jesus Do?]

I personally don't know anyone that matches your criteria. I am an average joe. Here is the problem, in liberal land, anyone that has a job is evil. Pretty much what you just claimed.

Not even slightly what I claimed.

We committed genocide against Native Americans to steal their land. We bought territory from nations with no right to sell it. We forced treaties with nations at the point of a gun to legitimize our theft. We enslaved Africans to do our work. The wealthy and corporations bribed our government officials to steal the commons. We dump our wastes into air and water and let it be someone else's problem. We start wars for profit. And much more.

It doesn't take too much thought to recognize that most wealth today is tainted. Even if you are a totally honest, hard-working person, "your money" rests on a corrupt and criminal foundation.

Most people don't want to do anything about that. So they deny it's true. And thereby transition from unwitting beneficiary of a criminal enterprise to a complicit beneficiary of a criminal enterprise.

 

[NoleSoup4U]

You know, I actually appreciate guys like you. You don't hold your small minded, shitheel, redneck biases inside. You wear them on your sleeve so it's easy to just hate you up front instead of needing to make a judgment later on.

I'm not a redneck, not even close. Have you ever been to Sarasota, FL?

 

[strummingram]

I'm not a redneck, not even close. Have you ever been to Sarasota, FL?

He was showing his own bias. Small-minded, shitheel and redneck in one sentence. He saw your retard and raised you two. Three of a kind beats an ace. Good thing there's not a clinical condition called shitheel, or redneck. We'd have to stop ever using them to refer to people who might fit those categories, in a figurative and literal context.

 

[NoleSoup4U]

He was showing his own bias. Small-minded, shitheel and redneck in one sentence. He saw your retard and raised you two. Three of a kind beats an ace. Good thing there's not a clinical condition called shitheel, or redneck. We'd have to stop ever using them to refer to people who might fit those categories, in a figurative and literal context.

I always bring out the best in retards.

 

[Chuck C]

Not even slightly what I claimed.

We committed genocide against Native Americans to steal their land. We bought territory from nations with no right to sell it. We forced treaties with nations at the point of a gun to legitimize our theft. We enslaved Africans to do our work. The wealthy and corporations bribed our government officials to steal the commons. We dump our wastes into air and water and let it be someone else's problem. We start wars for profit. And much more.

It doesn't take too much thought to recognize that most wealth today is tainted. Even if you are a totally honest, hard-working person, "your money" rests on a corrupt and criminal foundation.

Most people don't want to do anything about that. So they deny it's true. And thereby transition from unwitting beneficiary of a criminal enterprise to a complicit beneficiary of a criminal enterprise.

What!?! It's scary that there are people like you that think this way. Absolutely f$&king scary.

 

[strummingram]

We committed genocide against Native Americans to steal their land. We bought territory from nations with no right to sell it. We forced treaties with nations at the point of a gun to legitimize our theft. We enslaved Africans to do our work. The wealthy and corporations bribed our government officials to steal the commons. We dump our wastes into air and water and let it be someone else's problem. We start wars for profit. And much more.

It doesn't take too much thought to recognize that most wealth today is tainted. Even if you are a totally honest, hard-working person, "your money" rests on a corrupt and criminal foundation.

Most people don't want to do anything about that. So they deny it's true. And thereby transition from unwitting beneficiary of a criminal enterprise to a complicit beneficiary of a criminal enterprise.

Now, I want to really understand this from you. I agree whole-heartedly that all of the above acts of acquisition took place. But, what I find interesting is how you assign the blame as "we." "We" did all of these things. Who is "we?" I think this is where people might need to start making distinctions. If, by We, you mean "White People", well, that's part of this entire problem. People seem compelled to label each other by what their eyes see and that's all. We're all just people. If human beings don't start seeing each other as just fellow humans, instead of black, or white, or whatever, then it will never improve. This race crap will continue on for another um-teem millenia! But, I know that I had nothing whatsoever to do with killing the Plains Indians, or enslaving Africans.

I don't claim any personal responsibility for what those people did that you mentioned. I wasn't alive then, but, I sure as hell would never engage in it now either, nor condone it. Why are you making yourself vicariously responsible for what people did, who died over a century ago? Because they may have descended from the same part of Europe as you? I'm just not sure it's wise to even subconsciously refer to the culprits as "we." You're including yourself in a crime, or an affront to your fellow man, that you're not responsible. Place blame where it truly belongs.

I know you're a person who would never repeat their actions. So, take some comfort in that. There's no need to take the blame for what they did, even if it is to try and make a point. You're not doing, nor have you done any of these things. So, "WE" didn't do any of it. THEY did. And, they are dead now. The present-day "They's" are doing plenty to be alarmed by and try to thwart. I will give you some credit- you do show disdain for these chicken hawks and corporate owners. But, I would refrain from saying, or even thinking, "We" as having done any of that.

 

[naturalmwa]

Now, I want to really understand this from you. I agree whole-heartedly that all of the above acts of acquisition took place. But, what I find interesting is how you assign the blame as "we." "We" did all of these things. Who is "we?" I think this is where people might need to start making distinctions. If, by We, you mean "White People", well, that's part of this entire problem. People seem compelled to label each other by what their eyes see and that's all. We're all just people. If human beings don't start seeing each other as just fellow humans, instead of black, or white, or whatever, then it will never improve. This race crap will continue on for another um-teem millenia! But, I know that I had nothing whatsoever to do with killing the Plains Indians, or enslaving Africans.

I don't claim any personal responsibility for what those people did that you mentioned. I wasn't alive then, but, I sure as hell would never engage in it now either, nor condone it. Why are you making yourself vicariously responsible for what people did, who died over a century ago? Because they may have descended from the same part of Europe as you? I'm just not sure it's wise to even subconsciously refer to the culprits as "we." You're including yourself in a crime, or an affront to your fellow man, that you're not responsible. Place blame where it truly belongs.

I know you're a person who would never repeat their actions. So, take some comfort in that. There's no need to take the blame for what they did, even if it is to try and make a point. You're not doing, nor have you done any of these things. So, "WE" didn't do any of it. THEY did. And, they are dead now. The present-day "They's" are doing plenty to be alarmed by and try to thwart. I will give you some credit- you do show disdain for these chicken hawks and corporate owners. But, I would refrain from saying, or even thinking, "We" as having done any of that.

We=ACC fans.

 

[What Would Jesus Do?]

Now, I want to really understand this from you. I agree whole-heartedly that all of the above acts of acquisition took place. But, what I find interesting is how you assign the blame as "we." "We" did all of these things. Who is "we?" I think this is where people might need to start making distinctions. If, by We, you mean "White People", well, that's part of this entire problem. People seem compelled to label each other by what their eyes see and that's all. We're all just people. If human beings don't start seeing each other as just fellow humans, instead of black, or white, or whatever, then it will never improve. This race crap will continue on for another um-teem millenia! But, I know that I had nothing whatsoever to do with killing the Plains Indians, or enslaving Africans.

I don't claim any personal responsibility for what those people did that you mentioned. I wasn't alive then, but, I sure as hell would never engage in it now either, nor condone it. Why are you making yourself vicariously responsible for what people did, who died over a century ago? Because they may have descended from the same part of Europe as you? I'm just not sure it's wise to even subconsciously refer to the culprits as "we." You're including yourself in a crime, or an affront to your fellow man, that you're not responsible. Place blame where it truly belongs.

I know you're a person who would never repeat their actions. So, take some comfort in that. There's no need to take the blame for what they did, even if it is to try and make a point. You're not doing, nor have you done any of these things. So, "WE" didn't do any of it. THEY did. And, they are dead now. The present-day "They's" are doing plenty to be alarmed by and try to thwart. I will give you some credit- you do show disdain for these chicken hawks and corporate owners. But, I would refrain from saying, or even thinking, "We" as having done any of that.

CeMar raised the concept of "my money."

I was merely pointing out that what he is probably thinking of as his money is partly based on a criminal foundation.

I'm not saying that you and I bear any personal responsibility for the genocide of Native Americans or slavery or the rest. But I am saying we are the beneficiaries of those atrocities. Some proportion of national wealth that we call "my money" derives from those atrocities.

How you right those wrongs is a different question.

 

[strummingram]

Some proportion of national wealth that we call "my money" derives from those atrocities.

I won't argue that. We certainly do.

 

[IACub]

I'm not a redneck, not even close. Have you ever been to Sarasota, FL?

No, is everyone there like you?

 

[BrushCreekHawk]

Add to the list;
"I watched the Democratic Debate"

 

[NoleSoup4U]

No, is everyone there like you?

They're all racist mid-westerners that have traveled down I-75.

 

[jscott78]

I'd only vote wing to see what American would look like with the fascists in charge.

This is a fun list. #2 is my favorite. What's yours?

2. You like eating, drinking and breathing poison.

Many Republicans are calling for or voting for shrinking or eliminating agencies that protect us against poison. They seem to think that the corporations will do the right thing, without any pressure from the government.

https://www.dailykos.com/story/2011/09/25/1020037/-Top-10-reasons-to-vote-Republican

 

[What Would Jesus Do?]

I'd only vote wing to see what American would look like with the fascists in charge.

It would be interesting to watch the movie, but scary to live it.

 

[plmac9]

Oh hell they'd make a porno and finish each other.

That's retarded and I'm offended by your statement.

 

[IACub]

They're all racist mid-westerners that have traveled down I-75.

All I needed to know.

 

[naturalmwa]

It would be interesting to watch the movie, but scary to live it.

The movie wasn't that great:

 

[naturalmwa]

That's retarded and I'm offended by your statement.

Good porn should be offensive.

 

[What Would Jesus Do?]

The movie wasn't that great:

I read the book recently. Quite good. Didn't know there was a movie.

Are you saying the movie wasn't great as a movie, or that the post-rational culture it depicted wasn't great?