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When Will the Good People With Guns Save Us?

I read about half of them. Most aren't self-defense but brandishing a gun to defend property (car, etc) Call to the police would work in that case.

Regardless, it doesn't answer the question asked by the OP.

How would a call to the police have helped when they wouldn't have shown up until the property was already stolen?
 
I read about half of them. Most aren't self-defense but brandishing a gun to defend property (car, etc) Call to the police would work in that case.

Regardless, it doesn't answer the question asked by the OP.
Most defensive gun uses actually are just that, a shot is never fired.
 
Most defensive gun uses actually are just that, a shot is never fired.

I don't think you understand what "self-defense" means. It's different than defending your property. Property and self aren't the same thing.
 
That's fine, but you're not "defending yourself". You're risking your life over property because you feel empowered by your gun. Your choice, but again, has nothing to do with the OPs question.
 
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I read about half of them. Most aren't self-defense but brandishing a gun to defend property (car, etc) Call to the police would work in that case.

Regardless, it doesn't answer the question asked by the OP.

Hard to say how many would have been mass shooters. They were either stopped, or got the dead.
 
Whatever you have to tell yourself while you polish your gun. Or clean your weapons.
 
I'm the one out there yelling at the villains in my boxers with nothing more than my daughter's old t-ball bat - who's the pussy?
 
I laughed at your link, but I accepted your 10 occurrences over 20 years in several replies. I just compared them to the hundreds of mass shootings per year and wondered why there were so few. You seem to want to attack the messenger instead of answer this question.
You want use different definitions. Over those twenty years ther are conservatively 20,000,000 examples of armed citizens preventing crime.
 
You want use different definitions. Over those twenty years ther are conservatively 20,000,000 examples of armed citizens preventing crime.

That's how most of the people are on here. When you can't refute a post, then you just change the definitions of the words. Half of dictionary.com's traffic has to be from me linking to them, trying to stop a lot of the posters on here from just making s*** up.
 
That's how most of the people are on here. When you can't refute a post, then you just change the definitions of the words. Half of dictionary.com's traffic has to be from me linking to them, trying to stop a lot of the posters on here from just making s*** up.
True, but it's not that often that a poster explicitly defines the rules and the does a 180 like Belem did.

He actually defined "mass shooting" then decided that he wouldn't accept that exact definition when it wouldn't fit his narrative.
 
I don't think you understand what "self-defense" means. It's different than defending your property. Property and self aren't the same thing.
I'm perfectly aware of what self defense is, the defense of others and the defense of property. In Nebraska I have to understand as we have a duty to retreat.
I think you are either pretty stupid , in denial or are just trolling. My bet is on stupid.
 
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The link provides documentation of each event. It defines a "mass shooting" as one where 4 or more people are shot. How is that "BS" What number of people do you feel need to be shot before it has to be qualified as a "mass shooting"? You all were giving high-fives to Kiting and his link had events that weren't even shootings.

I'm just wondering where all you cowboys are. You're buying more and more guns, getting more concealed carry permits, but it seems that despite what looks to be ~400 mass shootings a year the defenders with guns are stopping about one every other year at best. Why aren't we seeing stories every day about you all trading rounds and taking out the bad guys? You've got them vastly outnumbered if your propaganda is true. Where are the results?


its BS because they made up their own criteria. The FBI criteria says 4 of more have to be killed in order to classify it as a man shooting.
400 mass shootings a year are not happening. Period. I don't care what some Gun control group says based on criteria they made up on their own.
 
I read about half of them. Most aren't self-defense but brandishing a gun to defend property (car, etc) Call to the police would work in that case.

Regardless, it doesn't answer the question asked by the OP.


You know how long police take to respond to most "non-threatening" calls these days?
 
Actually it's been happening for years -

The number of concealed carry handgun permits has skyrocketed since President Obama was first elected, while murder rates have fallen, according to a new report released Wednesday.

Since 2007, the number of concealed handgun permits has soared from 4.6 million to over 12.8 million, and murder rates have fallen from 5.6 killings per 100,000 people to just 4.2, about a 25 percent drop, according to the report from the Crime Prevention Research Center.

“The public increasingly understands that gun control is a failed social experiment, and it doesn’t work,” Mr. Keene said. “All gun control ever does is infringe upon the rights of the law-abiding citizens and does nothing to stop criminals from illegally acquiring firearms, and it doesn’t stop them from misusing them in crime.”

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news...op-as-concealed-carry-permits-soar-/?page=all
 
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