where do you realistically think Iowa belongs in Big Ten pecking order?
IOWA has a top 5 big ten stadium
top 5 student section
top 5 tailgate
IOWA has a top 5 big ten stadium
top 5 student section
top 5 tailgate
where do you as a fan expect
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I chose the second group but I also believe that every 2 to 3 years we should be in the upper group and challenge for a playoff spot.
So anybody that's placing Iowa above Oregon, OSU, Penn St, or Michigan needs to have their head examined. It's hard to place them above USC or Washington, even though this year proved otherwise. Over the longer term, they have too many advantages over Iowa. That pretty much leaves Iowa hanging around outside of that group. That's why I have them in the 6-10 group.
Well then we should stop playing football, and invest in women's basketball and wrestling since they're the only sports right now that bother trying to compete for national titles (or winning them in the case of women's wrestling).
Just think how dominant Jan could have the program if they got all the funding from dropping football.
Hell we'd also have enough space cleared up to add men's soccer and hockey after years of pining for it.
Cmon, you know how stupid that post is. Without football we get Zero from the 80-90 million $ TV payout, and none of the other sports prosper either.....
True but his point is that we, at least, are trying to win a championship in football. It's not a forgone conclusion that we'll always be in the same range as we currently are.
Evil and Jonesy are both more realistic than many other posters on here and we understand we have limitations. Our limitations are not as impactful as a lot of our posters believe they are though. We have significant upside but we need someone to unlock or unleash it.
Do you honestly expect Iowa to win a national championship in football in your lifetime? Do you really believe that, over the long term, Iowa should expect a better outcome than OSU, UM, PSU, UO, or USC? I don't and I don't think that any rational intelligent person would believe that either. In terms of resources and recruiting, Iowa is much closer to the Wisconsin's and Minnesota's of the world.
I voted 6-10 but also would have voted 1-5 as I think both are reality. Most years 6-10 but 1 out of every 3 or 4 should be in the 1-5.
No, not really if I'm being honest but I think we have a shot unlike so many others and that the void isn't as substantial as many would like us to believe.
I don't expect a championship at Iowa for football but I'd like to think Iowa is one of the few teams that has the potential to catch fire for at least one year and shock everyone. I don't think there are many teams like that honestly and Iowa is one of those teams that can do it but no, I don't expect it to happen.
Iowa will never ever be consistently in the top 5. OSU, Oregon, Mich, Penn St, USC just have too much money to compete with. Like another poster mentioned, Iowa can sneak in there once every 4-5 years and compete for a playoff spot when the stars align, but it won't be consistent.
6-10
6-10
It’s a sad truth that many can’t face. We like to mock Nebby fans for thinking they still belong in that group, then we gripe for not being on par with them.
In football, realistically, probably in the tier right behind Oregon, OSU, Michigan, PSU, with a chance to outperform "our rightful place" here and there... Unless something weird happens with the landscape that somehow works in our favor, but probably not likely.
I had to vote for the 6-10 slot, but I feel they should be more like 6 than 10.
I had to vote for the 6-10 slot, but I feel they should be more like 6 than 10.
So you and I should take a trip out to Portland and meet with Phil Knight to sell him on Iowa. What do you think?
Cool, what clothing company do you own and how much have you liquidated to put towards NIL?
That's where we are right now.
7-10 wins a year is realistic vying for the BIG title every once in a while. College football is a fun pastime and that's it.
F*** yes. I'm attending the first official Big Ten hockey game at Xtream Arena, and we're gonna kick the sh** out of Wisconsin.
I don't know, I think we're in better shape than many, including our own, think we are. I agree that we are closer to the Wisconsins of the world (not Minnesota though) but I believe we're a step above them with recent history.
I think a lot of us believe we have second or third world problems when reality indicates we're a lot closer to being first world. Could be wrong but I think we can do something if we get all the pieces to fit for short stints. Outside of that, I've no illusions that we can be consistently too five for anything outside of a temporary or short period of time.
I think of Clemson and how people used to think they were a perennial 7-4/8-3 team (back when they used to play 11 games). For about a 5 year period though, they were THE team! Quite impressive and I see a lot of similarities between the schools as well as some obvious differences.
There's no reason we can't strive to do that. A period like that would last me a lifetime honestly.
It's not that the expectation is Iowa football will be consistently top 5. It's that every so often they rise up and get into the top 3. Especially now that we have playoffs where top 3 in the B1G virtually guarantees a spot.
I'd rather have some more fluctuation between 3rd and 10th than consistently 6th.
I'd rather have some more fluctuation between 3rd and 10th than consistently 6th.
Agreed. I think we even saw that from Iowa 2002-04. For those few years, Iowa was one of the top couple programs in the Big Ten. Up there with OSU and Michigan, ahead of PSU. Iowa beat MICH 2 out of 3 those years, and beat OSU in 2004, didn't play them in '02 but I feel Iowa could have beaten them that year. Orange Bowl in '02, beat LSU in the Cap 1 Bowl in '04. Finished #8 three years straight. Not too shabby!
That level of success didn't last obviously, but I feel that Iowa is capable of doing it in spurts, as you pointed out. Wisconsin was normally pretty tough under Alvarez and Bielema, so I see no real reason Iowa can't have similar success with the right staff.
QB is a good place to start. The lines are next. Skill positions in general need attention. Always room for improvement. I don't think the University is committed to Football excellence.
We gotta have a top 25 NIL and then expect the coaches to coach that talent to get into the CFP 12.
Realistically, we’re in the 6-10 group. As long as we have very little offense, without an all American running back, we will never be in the top group. The Hawks can plod along without an effective passing game and win 7-9 games. There will be nice wins most years, but there will also be MSU, UCLA and ISU losses too. And any hope of competing with the 1-5 group will be gone.
Oh sure. QB is the straw that stirs the drink in every offense. Has to be priority one. I'm just not sure that any high level QB is going to have an offense around him that can drive the kind of results that people might expect.
