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Which True Freshman will play this Fall

Bryzzo

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My guess is that the following True Freshman will see the field this Fall:

Tyrone Tracy - WR
Nico Ragaini - WR
Dillon Doyle - LB
Jayden McDonald - LB
DJ Johnson - DB
Julius Brents - DB
Dallas Craddieth - DB
Henry Geil - RB
Samson Evans - RB
John Waggoner - DE
 
Based on reports from our mole at the spring practices it would appear that Ragaini has the inside track for now.
 
Bryzzo, post: 5303096 My guess is that the following True Freshman will see the field this Fall:

Tyrone Tracy - WR Yes - ST
Nico Ragaini - WR Yes - WR/ST
Dillon Doyle - LB Yes - LB/ST
Jayden McDonald - LB Yes - ST
DJ Johnson - DB No
Julius Brents - DB No
Dallas Craddieth - DB Maybe/Probably
Henry Geil - RB No
Samson Evans - RB Yes - ST
John Waggoner - DE No
 
My guess is that the following True Freshman will see the field this Fall:

Tyrone Tracy - WR
Nico Ragaini - WR
Dillon Doyle - LB
Jayden McDonald - LB
DJ Johnson - DB
Julius Brents - DB
Dallas Craddieth - DB
Henry Geil - RB
Samson Evans - RB
John Waggoner - DE

Waggoner needs to add a good deal of weight and no way he sees the field in my opinion.
 
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Bryzzo, post: 5303096 My guess is that the following True Freshman will see the field this Fall:

Tyrone Tracy - WR Yes - ST
Nico Ragaini - WR Yes - WR/ST
Dillon Doyle - LB Yes - LB/ST
Jayden McDonald - LB Yes - ST
DJ Johnson - DB No
Julius Brents - DB No
Dallas Craddieth - DB Maybe/Probably
Henry Geil - RB No
Samson Evans - RB Yes - ST
John Waggoner - DE No
Why Evans playing and not Geil? I would think the reverse, or maybe both with the thinness or depth at RB.
 
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I think Evan's before Geil due to versatility. I would have said there was 0% Geil played as a true fresh 6 mo ago, would be really nice to redshirt him. Here is looking at you Kysaun Bryan.

(No way wags plays as a fresh, too.much depth and the advantage of a RS is too great.)

I would also add a 1% chance C. Lockett plays.
 
Why Evans playing and not Geil? I would think the reverse, or maybe both with the thinness or depth at RB.
I have Evans playing ST only this season. I seriously doubt if either Evans or Geil line up in the backfield this year but that could change if multiple injuries hit. Young, Kelly-Martin, Bryan, and Harrell should be able to carry the entire load. Of those two, I would guess Sampson fills in if needed .... but its just speculation, I like them both equally.
 
Waggoner needs to add a good deal of weight and no way he sees the field in my opinion.
Agreed, with the depth at DE, we'd have to be in a heck of a mess if he's called on to play this season. Don't see him playing on specials either with all the LB bodies on hand that should be better suited for those teams.
 
I think the consensus will be that these 5 guys will most likely play:

Tyrone Tracy - WR
Nico Ragaini - WR
Dillon Doyle - LB
Jayden McDonald - LB
Samson Evans - RB/WR/Kick Returner

These next 5 guys have a chance to play depending on health/depth and how much value they can bring to special teams units:

Henry Geil - RB
DJ Johnson - DB
Julius Brents - DB
Dallas Craddieth - DB
Seth Benson - LB

I would agree that the DL depth makes it unlikely that Waggoner plays this year, and that's not a bad thing, as next year's DL unit could be AJ Epenesa, D. Nixon, Lattimore, A. Nelson and J. Waggoner - not too shabby.
 
I would like to seeSamson Evans get an opportunity in the kick or punt return game. He really made things happen in high school (was it the largest Illinois class?).

Plus, he is not SO incredibly valuable to the regular offense right now that he could really focus on that this year.

In the past few years we have put great players back there, but I truly held my breath every time Dez or Wadley took a big hit on Special Teams.
 
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Bryzzo, post: 5303096 My guess is that the following True Freshman will see the field this Fall:

Tyrone Tracy - WR Yes - ST
Nico Ragaini - WR Yes - WR/ST
Dillon Doyle - LB Yes - LB/ST
Jayden McDonald - LB Yes - ST
DJ Johnson - DB No
Julius Brents - DB No

Dallas Craddieth - DB Maybe/Probably
Henry Geil - RB No
Samson Evans - RB Yes - ST
John Waggoner - DE No
My best guess is that one or both of these guys play this year. We really only have one corner spot (kind of) locked down at this point.
 
I think that you need to look at who we lost, who we return, and how much we rotate guys at different positions.

observation: We lost 3 starting LBs + 1 top backup LB. Furthermore, Seth Wallace is on record stating that he's hoping to rotate guys at LB ... much like Morgan was rotating guys on the DL.
response: Between positional action and special teams play, we played Jewell, B. Niemann, Bower, Ward, Welch, Hockaday, Mends, Jones, and N. Niemann. Some guys were injured/dinged, so that impacted how much they were able to contribute (or how regularly they'd contribute). Even erring on the side of caution, I could see the Hawks playing 8 LBs in '18. The 5 guys returning with experience will very likely see either positional or special teams action in '18 ... but that still implies that the door would be open for more guys to contribute ... perhaps in the ball-park of 3 or 4 more guys contributing. Going off of reports ... I'd venture to guess that Colbert and Doyle are guys who are high on the list as it relates to candidates. We have some walk-on JUCOs ... maybe they'd be in the picture? Maybe Wade and/or McDonald?

observation: The defensive end spot was perceived as so log-jammed in '18 that Golston slid over to DT in order to give himself a chance to see the field more. Also, it didn't hurt that he also played quite a bit of DT in high school too.
response: There is no chance that a true freshman will push for playing time in '18.

observation: The Hawks lost special teams ace Clayberg because he prefers to play on the O-side of the ball. Also, Miles Taylor graduated ... and we're staring down the impending graduation (after '18) of both Snyder and Gervase. On the flip side, Snyder, Gervase, Hooker, and Stone have each seen starter-quality snaps in '17.
response: The Hawks are "deep" at safety in terms of guys who can start. However, the unit is in dire need to developing depth in anticipation of the graduation of Snyder and Gervase. Furthermore, with the departure of Clayberg and Taylor but the return of Snyder from injury ... we should be slated to break in another S. Hello Mr. Craddieth! Perhaps I shouldn't discount Merriweather - the safety who enters the fray in '18 will mostly be cutting his teeth on special teams play.

observation: The Hawks lost Jackson at CB. Also, the fact that Phil Parker is renown as a "yeller" ... that sometimes leads to above-average attrition at DB. On the flip side, the Hawks return OJ, Manny, and Hankins at CB ... all of whom saw quality reps in '17.
response: Creamer made physical strides during the off-season ... and furthermore, ascended the depth chart to find his way on the depth chart. From what I've gathered, Turner has ability ... but his lack of consistency still makes him appear as though he's a raw talent. If a TR FR doesn't redshirt ... it will most likely be due to him finding a niche. Maybe a guy is a really good "cover" guy ... then maybe he can find his way to the field through a nickel/dime sub-package. Alternatively, our depth at RB is poor ... thus, it may prove too risky to have a RB return kicks. Thus, a DB with ball-skills might be able to make noise on special teams as a returner. Given these considerations, Roberts might be every bit as likely to see the field early as the other two (Johnson and Brents).

observation: The Hawks lost Wadley and Butler to graduation. Furthermore, they lost Joly to attrition ... and there still is no word on Toks being cleared medically. In 2015 and 2017, went as far down as playing their #4 RB. In 2016, conditions were a little different ... but the Hawks still primarily just played 3 RBs. Lastly, from everything I've gathered ... after Toren and Ivory, there is a bit of "gap" in terms of how guys are looking at RB.
response: If Geil can make a positive splash - I don't see any reason why he couldn't see the field early. As others have stated, maybe Evans could see the field through special teams ... as I mentioned before about needing a "returner" ... maybe Evans is the guy?

observation: The Hawks lost VandeBerg to graduation. On the flip side, the Hawks also played 3 true freshmen in '17. Furthermore, reports suggest that Groeneweg is a SR who might surprise as a contributor. Iowa's passing game to the WRs was still rather under-developed last year. The Hawks clearly want to continue to make strides in this area.
response: The primary thing to recognize here is that the WR group may be more experienced than it was last year ... however, it's still a relatively young and/or inexperienced group. Thus, if a guy were truly to emerge and make noise out of the group ... then he'd be able to ascend the depth chart and contribute. To that end, Ragaini has had the benefit of joining the team for the Spring. Also, Tracy has the advantage of being an uncommon skills guy - a guy who potentially offers facets to the position that some of the other guys just don't have. There will be opportunity at WR ... but nor would I say that anything is a given either.
 
My guess is that the following True Freshman will see the field this Fall:

Tyrone Tracy - WR
Nico Ragaini - WR
Dillon Doyle - LB
Jayden McDonald - LB
DJ Johnson - DB
Julius Brents - DB
Dallas Craddieth - DB
Henry Geil - RB
Samson Evans - RB
John Waggoner - DE
I doubt all 3 d'backs burn their redshirts, unless there are several injuries in the 2-deeps.
Evans may play on ST, but not at RB unless "He whose name we do not speak" raises his ugly head in 2018.
No way Waggoner plays @ DE in 2018. Loaded depth chart.
With only 11 seniors this fall, the number of true FR that play might be surprising.
 
A lot will depend on attrition over the summer. I'd say we will need linebacker and safety type to fill cover teams. I'd guess we may have 2 safeties and 3 linebackers (at least being a walk-on)
 
Bryzzo, post: 5303096 My guess is that the following True Freshman will see the field this Fall:

Tyrone Tracy - WR Yes - ST
Nico Ragaini - WR Yes - WR/ST
Dillon Doyle - LB Yes - LB/ST
Jayden McDonald - LB Yes - ST
DJ Johnson - DB No
Julius Brents - DB No
Dallas Craddieth - DB Maybe/Probably
Henry Geil - RB No
Samson Evans - RB Yes - ST
John Waggoner - DE No
Johnson will play and possibly a lot
 
Bryzzo, post: 5303096 My guess is that the following True Freshman will see the field this Fall:

Tyrone Tracy - WR Yes - ST
Nico Ragaini - WR Yes - WR/ST
Dillon Doyle - LB Yes - LB/ST
Jayden McDonald - LB Yes - ST
DJ Johnson - DB No
Julius Brents - DB No
Dallas Craddieth - DB Maybe/Probably
Henry Geil - RB No
Samson Evans - RB Yes - ST
John Waggoner - DE No

Phil Parker has always played 1 or 2 freshmen at DB or Safety. I think 2 of 3 listed will play somewhere. Maybe all three if injuries happen.
 
Phil Parker has always played 1 or 2 freshmen at DB or Safety. I think 2 of 3 listed will play somewhere. Maybe all three if injuries happen.
If they ever recruit a lot of guys at a single position ... usually the intention is for them to play at least one guy early in order to also help stagger the guys out in terms of eligibility (that increases that chances that more of them could ultimately see the field too).

I could be wrong, but Brents still kinda strikes me as a raw talent ... his injury through part of his SR season contributed to that. I would guess that he's a guy who could really benefit a lot from a redshirt year. Of course, on the flip side, he could also end up being really receptive to Phil's coaching ... and jump ahead of others too. Who knows?

However, if I were to guess ... I'd conjecture that DJ Johnson or Roberts are most likely to see early playing time at CB (probably just one of them, not both). Then we'd likely also play a safety early too ... and I would suspect that that guy will be Craddieth.
 
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