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Who’s our Point Guard this year?

I seriously doubt it was an incoming freshman that frightened him into leaving. Joe left because he was benched for the second time in his career after playing as a starter. You can argue about why he was benched and whether it was justified but there's little doubt as to what precipitated him leaving. He's a competitor and I'm sure he was demoralized after it happened. He felt like he needed to move on to achieve a bigger role moving forward and said as much upon leaving.
He left because he wanted Fran to guarantee the starting PG position and a specific # of minutes and Fran wasn’t going to do that. End of story.
 
It is yet to be seen if he will actually achieve that at WVU. But I agree that if he felt that he was passed over unfairly, he should have moved on. At least he had the opportunity to contribute to a somewhat successful program while at Iowa.
True. I hope he gets what he's looking for. Tough competitor and by all accounts a great teammate.
 
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Joe was always a favorite of mine but I think it's for the best for everyone. I couldn't disagree more that he was scared of the competition from Bowen. West Virginia and their style of play and how they get after it defensively is a perfect fit for him. For whatever reason it just didn't work here. I don't think either Fran or Joe trusted each other. It happens.
 
Joe was always a favorite of mine but I think it's for the best for everyone. I couldn't disagree more that he was scared of the competition from Bowen. West Virginia and their style of play and how they get after it defensively is a perfect fit for him. For whatever reason it just didn't work here. I don't think either Fran or Joe trusted each other. It happens.
Agree 100%.
 
Joe was always a favorite of mine but I think it's for the best for everyone. I couldn't disagree more that he was scared of the competition from Bowen. West Virginia and their style of play and how they get after it defensively is a perfect fit for him. For whatever reason it just didn't work here. I don't think either Fran or Joe trusted each other. It happens.
If Joe gets out of control there like he had at Iowa, Huggy will rip him a new one. He doesn't like turnovers and he wants controlled bedlam.
 
Way to early to tell, but even with talent a freshman point guard starting concerns me. I think he’ll have to come off the pine until he proves himself in actual game action and in crunch time.
 
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Way to early to tell, but even with talent a freshman point guard starting concerns me. I think he’ll have to come off the pine until he proves himself in actual game action and in crunch time.
This. Ahron will probably start the year at PG and hopefully grab the bull by the horns. If not, I thinks he'll be pushed by Dasonte, either way.
 
Fran came out and said that Joe wasn't extremely unhappy, but that he just wanted more. Joe asked Fran to guarantee minutes which he couldn't do so Joe left. No hard feelings.


Fran told Chad Leistikow of the Register that Joe wanted 30 plus minutes a game.

I posted what follows in another thread on April 1.


At the end of this post is a link to Wed's HawkCentral podcast with Des Moines Register beat writers Chad Leistikow & Kenny Smith.

There's a lot of good stuff there.

Things that they discussed that stood out:

Chad Leistikow said the Joe departure was a surprise; he thought Ulis was the most likely to leave based on his limited role in the B1G Tournament (lots of 2nd halves where Ulis did not play)

Chad talked to Fran after Joe announced he was leaving; Joe wanted 30 plus minutes per game playing time. Fran could not guarantee this because Fran is high on Dasonte Bowen.

Chad said Fran is REALLY excited about Dasonte.


Looks like Dasonte & Ulis will share the PG role AND you have Connor & Tony who can handle the ball.

Chad and Kenny brought up that Joe could have pouted (or worse) when he got benched but he was a great teammate.

Fran told Chad that Joe was not miserable; he just wanted more.

Kenny said the Kris is looking forward to having the ball in his hands more.

Chad brought up player development & he said the thinks 2 players are ready to take off: Patrick at the 3 and Kris at the 4. Kenny is really high on Tony taking off next year as well. Kenny said Tony's confidence exploded when he was named starter.

Speaking of player development: Will Riley Mulvey make a jump by getting those reps in practice?

Chad said Fran had nothing but praise for Josh O and Joe T as they exit the program. Chad reminded us that there was only one transfer where Fran made no statement: CJ Fredrick.

The medical team thinks Josh Dix will be ready to play this season.

This will be the first offseason for Connor where it will only be basketball. He won't be juggling baseball and he won't be recovering from injury

So, coming back, for starters:

1: Bowen/Ulis
2: Tony/Payton
3. Patrick/Payton
4. Kris
5. Filip (he started every game last season)

Then you have Connor, Riley and hopefully Josh Dix coming off the bench.

Fran said he WILL get a 5 out of the portal. The problem? All of the good ones out there have other schools after them as well. But Fran has playing time to offer. If you get a quality 5 you could then have FIlip coming off the bench and you can let Mulvey develop another year. Then you have 6'10 center Owen Freeman arriving in 2023.

Chad said Fran might pocket the remaining 2 scholarships because Fran & company are really attacking the 2023 class. Owen Freeman has already committed; there's a really good chance Pryce Sandfort joins the Hawks as well.

Chad thinks Iowa is really set up well for next season.


LINK TO THE FULL PODCAST:

 
Not true. Fran has repeatedly said he schedules non-conferences based on what he perceives his team needs the most + the level of play he expects them to be at early on. He is directing who and where we play more than the AD and B1G
Pretty much true. The B1G only has a say in one non-con game. Barta is a yes man...
 
Took me less than 2 minutes, but here you go buddy :)

"I've always tried to schedule based on what I thought our team's capabilities were that year,"

Article: https://www.thegazette.com/iowa-haw...rade-iowas-non-conference-basketball-schedule
We know he doesn't schedule the inter- conference matchups, nor the IA - IA State game, nor the matchups in the pre-season tournaments other that to say if Iowa will participate or not. McC doesn't schedule the B1G games, either. That only leaves a few games pre-season that usually are directional or small schools. Yeah, he has a say about those. And if you are going to bring up the Duke pre-season game this fall, it was a gift, but McC only would have been able to nix it, he didn't make it happen.
 
Just listened to the latest Hawkeye Report podcast with Chad. According to some practice observations, Dasonte just moves differently.
My memory sucks and it was the year before I really became a hard-core Hawk fan, but I think the same was true when a quiet recruit named Ronnie Lester was a freshman. By mid-year, I think he already was turning heads on the floor...
 
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If Joe gets out of control there like he had at Iowa, Huggy will rip him a new one. He doesn't like turnovers and he wants controlled bedlam.
This perception of Joe as a turnover machine is misplaced. He had a 2.33 assist to turnover ratio which was good for 35th in the country out of 350 players and 6th in the B1G. Stefanovich was 1st in the B1G but he wasn't even a PG. Pickett and Hoggard were 2nd best in the B1G at 2.46 so Joe was right there with the best.

 
My memory sucks and it was the year before I really became a hard-core Hawk fan, but I think the same was true when a quiet recruit named Ronnie Lester was a freshman. By mid-year, I think he already was turning heads on the floor...
The way Dasonte glides in the clips I have seen sort of reminds me of Lester. But until I see much more of him, that is as far as I will go with the comparisons.
 
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We know he doesn't schedule the inter- conference matchups, nor the IA - IA State game, nor the matchups in the pre-season tournaments other that to say if Iowa will participate or not. McC doesn't schedule the B1G games, either. That only leaves a few games pre-season that usually are directional or small schools. Yeah, he has a say about those. And if you are going to bring up the Duke pre-season game this fall, it was a gift, but McC only would have been able to nix it, he didn't make it happen.
You were proven wrong. 😉 Enjoy the day!
 
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This perception of Joe as a turnover machine is misplaced. He had a 2.33 assist to turnover ratio which was good for 35th in the country out of 350 players and 6th in the B1G. Stefanovich was 1st in the B1G but he wasn't even a PG. Pickett and Hoggard were 2nd best in the B1G at 2.46 so Joe was right there with the best.

Can we agree that when Joe was out of control, he was more likely to foul or turn it over? That much was evident. He seemed to do everything in bunches, whether it was good play or bad. His stat lines per game had been wildly inconsistent for a 3rd year player.
 
We know he doesn't schedule the inter- conference matchups, nor the IA - IA State game, nor the matchups in the pre-season tournaments other that to say if Iowa will participate or not. McC doesn't schedule the B1G games, either. That only leaves a few games pre-season that usually are directional or small schools. Yeah, he has a say about those. And if you are going to bring up the Duke pre-season game this fall, it was a gift, but McC only would have been able to nix it, he didn't make it happen.
I'll disagree with you on the Duke game. I would bet Fran's devotion to raising money for cancer is arguably the biggest reason Iowa gets it's foot in the door for this game. Sure, there's the gift element to Patrick (his request when he committed to his dad was they would find a way to play in MSG before he graduates), but ESPN had to agree to choose Iowa for this event and Fran/Margaret/Patrick make for great TV storylines for Jimmy V week. If you don't have that storyline/cancer fundraising I'm not sure how far Barta gets with the ESPN execs who choose the teams.
 
I'll disagree with you on the Duke game. I would bet Fran's devotion to raising money for cancer is arguably the biggest reason Iowa gets it's foot in the door for this game. Sure, there's the gift element to Patrick (his request when he committed to his dad was they would find a way to play in MSG before he graduates), but ESPN had to agree to choose Iowa for this event and Fran/Margaret/Patrick make for great TV storylines for Jimmy V week. If you don't have that storyline/cancer fundraising I'm not sure how far Barta gets with the ESPN execs who choose the teams.
Right, they chose Iowa. That's my point.
 
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This perception of Joe as a turnover machine is misplaced. He had a 2.33 assist to turnover ratio which was good for 35th in the country out of 350 players and 6th in the B1G. Stefanovich was 1st in the B1G but he wasn't even a PG. Pickett and Hoggard were 2nd best in the B1G at 2.46 so Joe was right there with the best.

I don't think it was so much that Joe turned the ball over. I would guess that McCaffery felt Joe wasn't running the offense the way he drew it up. The HC and the PG have to be on the same page.
 
Can we agree that when Joe was out of control, he was more likely to foul or turn it over? That much was evident. He seemed to do everything in bunches, whether it was good play or bad. His stat lines per game had been wildly inconsistent for a 3rd year player.
Absolutely there were times that Joe was out of control. Sometimes they resulted in spectacular plays. Sometimes they resulted in an inexplicable turnover. He was also extremely disruptive defensively and was the best slasher/finisher on the team not named Murray. I think that sometimes Joe's frustration over the manner in which he was handled got the best of him, particularly after getting benched for Jbo. He tried to do too much in those cases. In any case, Fran never really trusted Joe and he was never really handed the keys, splitting time with Ulis and being pulled at the end of every game before losing his spot in the lineup entirely. The end result was petty much inevitable.
 
Absolutely there were times that Joe was out of control. Sometimes they resulted in spectacular plays. Sometimes they resulted in an inexplicable turnover. He was also extremely disruptive defensively and was the best slasher/finisher on the team not named Murray. I think that sometimes Joe's frustration over the manner in which he was handled got the best of him, particularly after getting benched for Jbo. He tried to do too much in those cases. In any case, Fran never really trusted Joe and he was never really handed the keys, splitting time with Ulis and being pulled at the end of every game before losing his spot in the lineup entirely. The end result was petty much inevitable.
I agree. I think that Joe wanted to be more the focus of the offense. Unfortunately for him, in a motion offense, the ball needs to move around more. It often stuck with Joe, sometimes with success, but just as often causing the offense to be stymied. Joe was a bad fit for a motion offense more so because of his approach. He might do better somewhere where he is running the offense with more set plays.
 
I gotta laugh at the possibility of Josh Dix being ready to play by the start of the season. If the medical team gives him the ok to play, that doesn't mean he's going to jump right in and contribute any significant minutes, losing the entire summer of conditioning and practicing is going to set him back immensely.
If he doesn't redshirt he'll probably get his few minutes for 5 plus games or less and basically lose a year of eligibility. We've all seen this before with Gabe Olasene and just last year with Riley Mulvey. If Josh is ok with this scenario, then so be it, but don't expect Dix to provide anymore to Iowa's game then Luc Laketa did last year. That's just the reality of major college basketball.
 
I gotta laugh at the possibility of Josh Dix being ready to play by the start of the season. If the medical team gives him the ok to play, that doesn't mean he's going to jump right in and contribute any significant minutes, losing the entire summer of conditioning and practicing is going to set him back immensely.
If he doesn't redshirt he'll probably get his few minutes for 5 plus games or less and basically lose a year of eligibility. We've all seen this before with Gabe Olasene and just last year with Riley Mulvey. If Josh is ok with this scenario, then so be it, but don't expect Dix to provide anymore to Iowa's game then Luc Laketa did last year. That's just the reality of major college basketball.
He's already conditioning--he was sprinting on the court over during the media availability last week. The only thing he has yet to be approved for is full contact--but he's jumping, sprinting, shooting, etc already.
 
I gotta laugh at the possibility of Josh Dix being ready to play by the start of the season. If the medical team gives him the ok to play, that doesn't mean he's going to jump right in and contribute any significant minutes, losing the entire summer of conditioning and practicing is going to set him back immensely.
If he doesn't redshirt he'll probably get his few minutes for 5 plus games or less and basically lose a year of eligibility. We've all seen this before with Gabe Olasene and just last year with Riley Mulvey. If Josh is ok with this scenario, then so be it, but don't expect Dix to provide anymore to Iowa's game then Luc Laketa did last year. That's just the reality of major college basketball.
You really think the comparison to Luc Laketa is remotely realistic? A kid that Wisconsin and Purdue were actively recruiting? LOL!
 
You really think the comparison to Luc Laketa is remotely realistic? A kid that Wisconsin and Purdue were actively recruiting? LOL!
That won't matter if he is physically unready. Better the redshirt than garbage minutes wasting a season or pushing an injury so the kid isn't reinjured or simply ineffective. The most difficult position, or at least the most shallow, is the non-point guard.
 
This perception of Joe as a turnover machine is misplaced. He had a 2.33 assist to turnover ratio which was good for 35th in the country out of 350 players and 6th in the B1G. Stefanovich was 1st in the B1G but he wasn't even a PG. Pickett and Hoggard were 2nd best in the B1G at 2.46 so Joe was right there with the best.

It will be interesting to see how Joe performs in 2022-23. He was definitely an asset in his time at Iowa, but IMO he lacked the consistent high level PG play to keep the starters role. He was over aggressive on offense and defense, too much of the time, to be relied upon down the stretch. His position defense wasn't great, and I definitely won't remember him as one of the PG greats when it comes to scoring or assists. His quickness, strength, and heart made him hard not to root for, and for that he will be missed.
 
That won't matter if he is physically unready. Better the redshirt than garbage minutes wasting a season or pushing an injury so the kid isn't reinjured or simply ineffective. The most difficult position, or at least the most shallow, is the non-point guard.
With the lack of depth at the 2 (Tony the only true 2) and there really only being 3 scholarship players to cover 2 positions (pg and sg), if Dix is ready, I believe that he could get decent minutes, not just mop-up. A bone break heals more strongly and quicker than tendons, and does not tend to be a chronic issue. He'll have had the time for full recovery - I don't believe any tendons were torn - so he should be ready for serious play on schedule. The only question will be his conditioning.

I have read that he's already shooting lights out. That's one thing he can do is put up shots while rehabbing. And the biggest gap right now in Iowa's offense is a shooter who can defend smaller, quicker players. If he has his lateral movement and leg strength back so that he can defend, he'll get decent minutes barring a setback.
 
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It will be interesting to see how Joe performs in 2022-23. He was definitely an asset in his time at Iowa, but IMO he lacked the consistent high level PG play to keep the starters role. He was over aggressive on offense and defense, too much of the time, to be relied upon down the stretch. His position defense wasn't great, and I definitely won't remember him as one of the PG greats when it comes to scoring or assists. His quickness, strength, and heart made him hard not to root for, and for that he will be missed.
He led the team in assists...
 
I would be more comfortable if our PG options were Joe T. and Bowen rather than Ulis and Bowen. Not sold on Ulis based on his past production.
 
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