Who's #1 Singlet Shorts

[bluroptimo]

The first match I watched was Ramos v Brewer, I thought Ramos went to the center of the mat with his shorts on. Then I watched some of the other matches where some had "hemmed up" their shorts.

I'm giving the competition gear at the event a thumbs down. If they are going to go with shirt/shorts combo they need to start looking at pro cycling where they have been doing it forever and have gotten some of the design concepts figured out.

 

[blak&gold]

Yeah, the shorts could have been better. Baggy shorts don't seem right for competition. Some of them looked modified and didn't look very good. You would think compression shorts would be best.

 

[artradley]

Agree. I actually think the UFC-style "fight shorts" are the best. These were baggy AF.

 

[CowboyUp61]

Yeah, the shorts could have been better. Baggy shorts don't seem right for competition. Some of them looked modified and didn't look very good. You would think compression shorts would be best.

Compression shorts and shirt - the only difference is the shirt now covers the shoulders. Still gives all the girls and gays a nice outline of your "package" so doesn't accomplish much. Makes me wonder what Marinelli was wearing in Itsimmer's dream

 

[Chopper25]

Agree. I actually think the UFC-style "fight shorts" are the best. These were baggy AF.

Or just wear singlets.

 

[artradley]

Or just wear singlets.

Kids don't like singlets. Why do you think they wear something else when they don't have to wear singlets?

 

[NYWRESTLER94]

Kids don't like singlets. Why do you think they wear something else when they don't have to wear singlets?

Where'd this info come from?

 

[Azchief32]

Kids don't like singlets. Why do you think they wear something else when they don't have to wear singlets?

You mean like in practice?

 

[Sidenote]

Where'd this info come from?

Me: Junior high kids' mouths.
Someone: That's just an excuse from a kid that's not mentally tough enough to wrestle.
Me: Or maybe a 13 year old boy is uncomfortable trying something new in a leotard in the vicious, bullying jungle that is Junior High?
Someone: Pussy.

The sport needs more black athletes.

 

[Azchief32]

Me: Junior high kids' mouths.
Someone: That's just an excuse from a kid that's not mentally tough enough to wrestle.
Me: Or maybe a 13 year old boy is uncomfortable trying something new in a leotard in the vicious, bullying jungle that is Junior High?
Someone: Pussy.

The sport needs more black athletes.

Wait...what?

 

[NYWRESTLER94]

Me: Junior high kids' mouths.
Someone: That's just an excuse from a kid that's not mentally tough enough to wrestle.
Me: Or maybe a 13 year old boy is uncomfortable trying something new in a leotard in the vicious, bullying jungle that is Junior High?
Someone: Pussy.

The sport needs more black athletes.

 

[Chopper25]

You mean like in practice?

I actually preferred singlets with a sweatshirt underneath in practice. It was a lot more comfortable then a shirt with the neck stretched and clinging to you.

 

[Sidenote]

I decided to save myself the response from "that guy" who loves to give the line that kid's are afraid to wrestle and use the singlet as an excuse.

Black kids are less likely to have dads who wrestled so their first exposure to wrestling is probably junior high. Kids don't like to be embarrassed in junior high. The singlet is embarrassing for kids. Kids are less likely to see try wrestling in junior high.

Black athletes are better athletes on the whole. More black athletes wrestling means better wrestling. The sport needs more black athletes.

 

[PapaBearSLIM]

Coud get pretty bad in here... or pretty entertaining... or both.
I think I'm gonna stay on the bench and watch this one play out.

 

[Wendy79]

Kids don't like to be embarrassed in junior high. The singlet is embarrassing for kids. Kids are less likely to see try wrestling in junior high.

Maybe just stick to this topic for everyone's sake.

 

[CowboyUp61]

I actually preferred singlets with a sweatshirt underneath in practice. It was a lot more comfortable then a shirt with the neck stretched and clinging to you.

I frequently wore a singlet over a rubber suit. Of course I am old enough that it was legal then! Hated pouring the sweat out after practice, turning it inside out for the washer.

 

[Azchief32]

Black athletes are better athletes on the whole. More black athletes wrestling means better wrestling. The sport needs more black athletes.

Congrats Sidenote...for once, I'm speechless and got nothing for you.

 

[Huck]

Sidenote, I was with you up until the time you started with the race issue. I think that's a whole different topic but you're free to have your opinion and state it.

You're spot on with the singlet issue though, high schools/middle schools need to have the "option" to have a uniform such as fight shorts and compression shirts. I've "campaigned" on this and a few other boards for years about giving the option to see if it would help numbers...if it doesn't then they can revoke the option in a few years and just go back to singlets. In the end, I believe most kids would eventually choose the singlet when given the choice but only after they've been "hooked" by the sport.
The two main excuses those opposed to the option is the one you stated and the "too many injuries" one. I've never seen an injury from an event that allows the fight shorts and I can't even think about an injury caused by shorts and t-shirts in my 20 years coaching or when I competed all the way through college. I'm sure there have been a finger or two but one of those doesn't even come to mind.

 

[CowboyUp61]

most of the finger/hand injuries I have seen are from hoodies with pockets, and from shorts with pockets.

 

[whejoe]

So, what if wrestling goes away from the singlet, do the ladies wear daisy dukes? Helen Maroulis wearing daisy dukes....I can live with that.

 

[Chopper25]

I'm all for having the option too (as long as it's nothing baggy), but I don't think it should be an issue in high school or college. Do we really need the Rushkies laughing at us over something else?

 

[ferentzin04]

I actually preferred singlets with a sweatshirt underneath in practice. It was a lot more comfortable then a shirt with the neck stretched and clinging to you.

I always preferred the singlet/polo combo.

 

[Azchief32]

I always preferred the singlet/polo combo.

Always got look good when teaching a counter to the opponents walking the double
Arm Bar around the head

 

[CowboyUp61]

So, what if wrestling goes away from the singlet, do the ladies wear daisy dukes? Helen Maroulis wearing daisy dukes....I can live with that.

to paraphrase, "YEEEEEEEEHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAW!

 

[Azchief32]

Coud get pretty bad in here... or pretty entertaining... or both.
I think I'm gonna stay on the bench and watch this one play out.

Wayment...you are the go to black dude on HR. How are we going to settle this without you? Chicken.

By chicken, I make no inference to fried chicken...that would just be bad while discussing why black people are more athletic and would prefer spandex over a singlet so they won't get embarrassed in junior high...or something like that.

(Serious Note: How did the fried chicken stereotype ever get put on black folks? Who the hell doesn't like them some fried chicken? The French maybe? My Mom was from Scotland and could cook the hell out of exactly one dish...Fried Chicken.)

 

[Wendy79]

(Serious Note: How did the fried chicken stereotype ever get put on black folks? Who the hell doesn't like them some fried chicken? The French maybe? My Mom was from Scotland and could cook the hell out of exactly one dish...Fried Chicken.)

http://www.npr.org/sections/codeswi...e-did-that-fried-chicken-stereotype-come-from

 

[NYWRESTLER94]

(Serious Note: How did the fried chicken stereotype ever get put on black folks? Who the hell doesn't like them some fried chicken? The French maybe? My Mom was from Scotland and could cook the hell out of exactly one dish...Fried Chicken.)

Chief....you're alright

 

[LaxHawk174]

http://www.npr.org/sections/codeswi...e-did-that-fried-chicken-stereotype-come-from

Loved this line
"It's also worth citing the great and very NSFW social theorist Dave Chappelle,..."

Love me some Dave Chappelle.

 

[NYWRESTLER94]

Loved this line
"It's also worth citing the great and very NSFW social theorist Dave Chappelle,..."

Love me some Dave Chappelle.

One of the GOATS

 

[Azchief32]

http://www.npr.org/sections/codeswi...e-did-that-fried-chicken-stereotype-come-from

Of note: Birth of a Nation, a pro Klan movie, was shown in Woodrow Wilson's (D) WH with Klansman in attendance. Thanks for the link Wendy. We think we have it bad now? They were politicizing fried chicken back in the day.

I'm getting hungry.

 

[whejoe]

Loved this line
"It's also worth citing the great and very NSFW social theorist Dave Chappelle,..."

Love me some Dave Chappelle.

The black white supremacist bit is still the funniest thing I have ever seen on tv. "Frontline with Clayton Bigsby". It's pure genius.

 

[24 so far]

Wayment...you are the go to black dude on HR. How are we going to settle this without you? Chicken.

By chicken, I make no inference to fried chicken...that would just be bad while discussing why black people are more athletic and would prefer spandex over a singlet so they won't get embarrassed in junior high...or something like that.

(Serious Note: How did the fried chicken stereotype ever get put on black folks? Who the hell doesn't like them some fried chicken? The French maybe? My Mom was from Scotland and could cook the hell out of exactly one dish...Fried Chicken.)

I know several people whose favorite meal is fried chicken, and they are most definitely Crackers.

Myself, if Colonel Sanders name ain't on it, it ain't fried chicken (I know, I know, it's blasphemy for many, but those damn 11 herbs and spices got me hooked, no going back now!). And the mashed potatoes and gravy, those dang mashed potatoes and gravy the Colonel puts out.......................oh my! That's good eatin' folks.

 

[Wendy79]

Of note: Birth of a Nation, a pro Klan movie, was shown in Woodrow Wilson's (D) WH with Klansman in attendance. Thanks for the link Wendy. We think we have it bad now? They were politicizing fried chicken back in the day.

I'm getting hungry.

Also, in the 40s/50s/etc, when blacks were often not allowed in restaurants in the South, they would pack fried chicken. This isn't the exact story I read about Jackie Robinson years ago, but it touches on it.

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=128220842

 

[wasdt21]

how in the heck can there be a pro klan movie.thats like saying cancer is a good thing.

 

[NYWRESTLER94]

how in the heck can there be a pro klan movie.thats like saying cancer is a good thing.

I definitely wasn't aware that the birth of a nation was a pro klan movie

 

[Azchief32]

I definitely wasn't aware that the birth of a nation was a pro klan movie

The 1915 version

 

[NYWRESTLER94]

The 1915 version

We could be looking at this movie differently Eli manning has me a bit angry at the moment to really discuss this though even with that last TD

 

[PapaBearSLIM]

Wayment...you are the go to black dude on HR. How are we going to settle this without you? Chicken.

By chicken, I make no inference to fried chicken...that would just be bad while discussing why black people are more athletic and would prefer spandex over a singlet so they won't get embarrassed in junior high...or something like that.

(Serious Note: How did the fried chicken stereotype ever get put on black folks? Who the hell doesn't like them some fried chicken? The French maybe? My Mom was from Scotland and could cook the hell out of exactly one dish...Fried Chicken.)

I know I said I was gonna sit this one out but there may be a link between fried chicken and athleticism. Reese Humphrey is a fried chicken fiend.

Seriously though there are physiological differences that on the surface have to do with race; blacks are better sprinters and whites better distance runners (but try to beat a Kenyan in a marathon). That has to do with a number of factors (including but not limited to environment/evolution). But that is not the biggest reason for the "black athlete" narrative. Because of socioeconomic/cultural issues that are way too deep for a wrestling forum blacks in America are drawn/driven toward sports and positions within those sports that a lot of us tend to consider more athletic than other sports/positions.

Before I go back to the bench be careful HR before KJ gains a leg up on future "athletes" and I don't think there is anything scientific that links blacks to being predisposed to liking singlets less than whites (unless you consider the scientific fact that we're more cool)

 

[PapaBearSLIM]

Loved this line
"It's also worth citing the great and very NSFW social theorist Dave Chappelle,..."

Love me some Dave Chappelle.

Clayton Bigsby is my favorite "white" guy. Chapelle has many great skits but that was top 3.

 

[24 so far]

I know I said I was gonna sit this one out but there may be a link between fried chicken and athleticism. Reese Humphrey is a fried chicken fiend.

Seriously though there are physiological differences that on the surface have to do with race; blacks are better sprinters and whites better distance runners (but try to beat a Kenyan in a marathon) that have to do with a number of factors (including but not limited to environment/evolution). But that is not the biggest reason for the "black athlete" narrative. Because of socioeconomic/cultural issues that are way too deep for a wrestling forum blacks in America are drawn/driven toward sports and positions within those sports that a lot of us tend to consider more athletic than other sports/positions.

Before I go back to the bench be careful HR before KJ gains a leg up on future "athletes" and I don't think there is anything scientific that links blacks to being predisposed to liking singlets less than whites (unless you consider the scientific fact that we're more cool)

Wait. What.