On how to tighten our belts and make do with less?
Why are we being lectured by a guy with $400 billion
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Get a job and stay out of dirty bathhouses. A billionaire didn’t cause your problems. It’s his money not yours. Just because someone is a billionaire doesn’t mean they are a awful person.
In fairness it's about the government tightening it's belt. It needs to be tightened.
Whether he's the guy to do it is another question, but it needs to be done.
And why is he allowed to interject himself into our federal government? Its almost as though he bought his way in…
My point is that Musk is the epitome of excess. Everything about him is more more more. Seems like the exact wrong guy for the job.
But he knows how to cut fat out of an organization. There's a lot of fat to cut in the Federal Government.
I'd like to see some of the interviews....
He knows how to cut fat, meaning screwing over real people, to funnel their paychecks into his pocket. It's literally what his job is.
Bc we have a spending problem and democrats have made said problem much, much worse. Plus he's smarter than you (by a lot).
Because too many government employees are lazy freeloaders.
You just described his boss.
He did it Tesla and X ofr sure...
I'm pretty sure Space x isn't a bloated bureaucracy either.
I just want to see what he comes up with....easier said than done when dealing with the entrenched federal bureaucracy.
How is anyone this clueless?
Who wants to tell him how many unelected bureaucrats there are in Washington DC?
Good God man.
Since it's taxpayer money the money would go back into the tax payer funded Fed "bank account".
We'll see how it goes.
It's a job that needs to get done and more than likely he'll fail but I don't have a problem with making the attempt.
He’s describing people like you.
This isn’t the Cassville Ferry. Most of us can’t enjoy the pleasantries of a glory hole at a clean bathhouse.
Or it will go to Musk. Since when has Musk ever returned the money to anybody but himself?
I don't know about Tesla, but X still isn't profitable. Anyone can go in and cut a bunch of employees.
Dude owns Trump.
Elon could probably end up owning the 5 next presidents (if he wants) unless an even richer guy comes along.
Elon could probably end up owning the 5 next presidents (if he wants) unless an even richer guy comes along.
He knows how to bilk the government for subsidies, which is why he wants to get closer. His wealth is propped up on the backs of the masses as he slings both parties snake oil. Guy gets paid billions to make holes to nowhere, fly rockets, and make a tiny number of cars compared to his competition. It is actually quite hilarious. I know he is a genius, but he’d be broke if not for state money, having spent all his money doing dumb shit and making outrageous claims like “I can dig a tunnel from New York to London for under $1T”
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Musk is an unelected bureaucrat, no?
I voted trump with this government reduction in mind.
They want to cut $2 trillion. They plan on doing this without snipping one bit from the military budget. The only way $2 trillion is even on the radar is if they essentially wipe out social security and medicare. Cutting a few research programs and the Department of Education isn't even going to get you to a billion dollars. Have fun with that.
Musk hired a bunch of people he didn’t need to sell a story to Wall Street to keep the money flowing. When the roadblocks came, he was able to unload a lot of weight he knew he didn’t need. All these tech companies do this. That’s why Twitter was fine when he fired everyone.
Problem here is that these guys don’t know what they’re going to break when they start cutting shit. The interwoven mess of the federal government is not a large cap tech company. Much it runs on antiquated systems and processes. Cutting a trillion is a nothing burger. They need new revenues, and those aren’t coming.
There's a lot of money for Elon's businesses to be made with increased spending. Especially if he gets his Terminator program he wants to do up and running.
*I'm not really joking with that btw. He wants to eliminate the F-35 program and replace them with pilotless attack aircraft.
Breaking shit is the plan,.. Cut everything and then if necessary put back the pieces you really need.
how ever many there were, there's at least one more now
i have no problem with trying to improve operations and increase efficiencies in the federal government
i just think you need to actually know things about how these organizations and bureaucracies function to do that effectively
and it seems like the people being chosen to lead these efforts (including but not limited to elon) don't have that knowledge
note that i haven't heard a single thing about any legislative fixes...everything is just slashing administrative capacity and then just assuming everything will turn out well. i'd say that's a shitty plan for improving something
Think it’s going to end up similar to Al Gore’s attempt in the 90’s. Go on Letterman or Joe Rogan now and oversell what you did. When it was essentially cosmetic.
A guy who made $400 billion dollars sounds like a pretty smart financial thinker to me.
Do you mean, like two political insiders, like say, Simpson and Bowles who come up with a plan and the president who appointed them just completely ignores all of their hard fought and researched ideas? Would you prefer that unsuccessful model?
Dems seem overly concerned that Musk might possibly accomplish something of value here...
100+ different contracts across 17 different federal agencies totaling over $3,000,000,000+ from a guy who bought his reputation as a genius, sadly a genius who’s never invented anything he’s associated with. But yeah, he’ll surely save us all.
i'm not going to pretend to be (like you are, I'm sure) an expert on the simpson and bowles proposal, but i can tell you that the bill based on it was put before the house and was voted down 382 to 38. so i think its disingenuous to pretend it didn't go anywhere simply because obama ignored it
i do think this general approach - a bipartisan group of legislators developing an actual proposal - is a good strategy
