Why is Iowa's RPI 71?

[PHXIowaClub]

I thought Iowa's issue in the past was a weak non conference schedule. Didn't they do what everyone asked this year by scheduling Virginia, Notre Dame, Seton Hall, & Iowa State? Iowa has 5 wins over top 50 teams. Is it the loss to Omaha that kills their RPI? I guess I'm surprised the Strength of Schedule is only at 40.

 

[DavenportHawk8]

They played 5 good opponents in the non-conf.

The other 8 teams RPIs are 100+. 4 of them are 300+! So you schedule those bad teams they drag down your RPI.

The UNO game is hurting but they are around 140 in RPI which isn't bad. There are teams ahead of us on the bubble w/worse losses.

The Big Ten is down as well. No top 10 teams.

 

[lonewolf52]

I read something Fran talked about which is so true; he talked about how difficult it is to schedule ahead and predict what teams will be good in advance

 

[IAHWKGUY]

I read something Fran talked about which is so true; he talked about how difficult it is to schedule ahead and predict what teams will be good in advance

Can be even harder in football with only 2 discretionary games each season. they are generally scheduled years in advance.

 

[StormHawk42]

1) Too many games against the 300s

2) B1G was garbage in the noncon so it drags everything else down

 

[DavenportHawk8]

I read something Fran talked about which is so true; he talked about how difficult it is to schedule ahead and predict what teams will be good in advance

Yeah there are usually teams who are in the 100-200 range. There are also conferences with teams that are 300+. Fran for future years would be wise to stay away from the Atlantic Sun, MEAC, SWAC, SOUTHLAND, Big Sky, Big West, and Northeast. Those conferences are always in the bottom of conference rankings. Those conferences teams all rank in the RPI 250+.

How hard is it to schedule teams from the Mid American, Colonial, MVC, American, and Summit/Horizon League?? I mean those conferences usually have decent teams.

 

[StormHawk42]

Part of the issue I think is that those 100-200 teams also need home games. I just think about MVC teams for example. Teams like Drake always have junky conference teams come in for home games instead of going on the road to big schools. Just something to keep in mind.

 

[And1Hawk]

The RPI is a joke metric. How sucky is your suckiness? Give me a break.

 

[DavenportHawk8]

The RPI is a joke metric. How sucky is your suckiness? Give me a break.

Yeah the NCAA is looking at changing the metric it uses. RPI was all about scheduling and road wins. Well teams figured out if you schedule 1 tough non-conf team and beat them, all you have to do is hold serve. The MWC also found out if you schedule non-divison 1, you RPI is not hurt. It doesn't count in your win/loss total. But it beats the hell out of playing a RPI team of 300+. So there was that loop hole.

I think the new metric will be much better. too many people found out how to beat the RPI system.

 

[Phenomenally Frantastic]

RPI is outdated and shouldn't be used. Someone said the NCAA comittee going away from it next year. It's about time.

 

[lonewolf52]

Add in that with a very young team, you still need some Ws to get the confidence going.

 

[Hawkeyestate81]

The RPI is a joke metric. How sucky is your suckiness? Give me a break.

It is because a bunch of teams ahead of us are simply for the fact they lost to better teams LOL, stupidity.

 

[soybean]

The NCAA announced that beginning next year the committee will no longer use the flawed RPI as a metric...its well past time IMHO.

 

[luvmyhawks]

The NCAA announced that beginning next year the committee will no longer use the flawed RPI as a metric...its well past time IMHO.

Are the replacing it? Using a different metric or something?

 

[DavenportHawk8]

Are the replacing it? Using a different metric or something?

They had a meeting with a bunch of "metric" people earlier this year. They had KenPom, Saragain, and others at the meeting.

I assume they are going to use an average of a couple different metrics for future years.

 

[jberesford]

I thought Iowa's issue in the past was a weak non conference schedule. Didn't they do what everyone asked this year by scheduling Virginia, Notre Dame, Seton Hall, & Iowa State? Iowa has 5 wins over top 50 teams. Is it the loss to Omaha that kills their RPI? I guess I'm surprised the Strength of Schedule is only at 40.

Too many 300 plus teams is the sole answer here. Losing to Omaha was really bad, but look around, every year a lot of teams have a surprise loss like that. To me the biggest flaw in the RPI is the absence of margin of victory being a component. You can break every NCAA scoring record and crush the #309 team by a million, and it carries as much weight if you escaped a monumental upset and won on a last second basket...

Minnesota is a prime example of how to do it. They feasted on the 100 level teams. They didn't blow anyone out, played a couple pretty close, and the only top 25 team they played was Florida State and lost. They're 11-6 in Big Ten play and beat similar teams as Iowa. Yet nowhere close in the RPI.

 

[DodgerHawki]

Too many 300 plus teams is the sole answer here. Losing to Omaha was really bad, but look around, every year a lot of teams have a surprise loss like that. To me the biggest flaw in the RPI is the absence of margin of victory being a component. You can break every NCAA scoring record and crush the #309 team by a million, and it carries as much weight if you escaped a monumental upset and won on a last second basket...

Minnesota is a prime example of how to do it. They feasted on the 100 level teams. They didn't blow anyone out, played a couple pretty close, and the only top 25 team they played was Florida State and lost. They're 11-6 in Big Ten play and beat similar teams as Iowa. Yet nowhere close in the RPI.

Bingo, we have a winner. I don't for the life of me understand why Iowa hasn't figured out how to play the RPI. We can bitch about the RPI all we want, but to date it has been the metric of choice by the committee. Playing 5 300+ teams in the RPI serves as an anchor. Yes, it is hard to predict which teams will be good/bad, but some of the conference year after year have teams in the low 200's and 300's. Avoid those teams at all costs. Teams like UNO and North Dakota are exactly the type of opponents you need to schedule. Yes, there is a possibility of losing, but you just can't have the anchors of the likes of Delaware State, Stetson, etc. It matters in a year like this one where Iowa did enough good work in conference play (could be 10-8 with wins against Michigan, Purdue, and two great road wins) but the non-con was just bad by Iowa.

 

[33hawkfan]

I read something Fran talked about which is so true; he talked about how difficult it is to schedule ahead and predict what teams will be good in advance

It's really not though, I can tell you right now if you schedule any SWAC or MEAC team, there's a good chance they will kill your RPI next year.

 

[SDHawkDoc]

Four 300+ RPI teams is just terrible scheduling.
Would have needed to beat seton hall, memphis, and either virginia or the domers to offset that mess.

 

[SDHawkDoc]

It's really not though, I can tell you right now if you schedule any SWAC or MEAC team, there's a good chance they will kill your RPI next year.

This.
The swac is trash from top to bottom.
And other than north carolina central this year the meac is garbage.